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K.S.H 26-12-2006 10:16

Charged for picking berry's
 
Things just get worse, have police got now't better to do, look at THIS

cashman 26-12-2006 10:20

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well they do look a couple of shady buggers KSH.:rofl38:

jimmi5bellies 26-12-2006 10:20

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So i take it, gone are the days when you could go for a walk with your tubs and pick the berries !
Its pathetic aint it.

K.S.H 26-12-2006 10:23

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I like the bit were they say they daren't give the jam they made with them just in case the people they give it to get charged with handling stolen goods :D

chav1 26-12-2006 11:55

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if they were picking blackberrys they could have been charged with racial charges as well :D

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2006 18:27

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Cheshire police handed the investigation to colleagues in Gloucestershire, who said: “Events that may seem insignificant can have a significant impact on the injured parties.”

What injured parties? People have picked wild berries for generations. Now suddenly it's a crime? So who is going to sue? The birds?

garinda 27-12-2006 00:02

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I saw it on the news.

Bloody trespassin' southern buggers.

They climbed over a barbed wire gate at the nature reserve, and were challengened by the owner.

I think they got away lightly with a caution.

I'd have shot 'em.

chav1 27-12-2006 00:12

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always another side to a story

trespassing they deserved to be done i wouldnt liek anyone walking about my land either theres pllenty of places to pick berrys that arnt on private land

cashman 27-12-2006 00:21

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 356855)
always another side to a story

trespassing they deserved to be done i wouldnt liek anyone walking about my land either theres pllenty of places to pick berrys that arnt on private land

true chav but be fair,that dont make "good news" or "sell papers".;)

Ianto.W. 27-12-2006 00:31

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The security guard (at a nearby building) not minding his own business, has now got Mr Blayney a criminal record. Try getting a police officer to respond to a burglary, the latest add on television is "if you suffer a break in don't dial 999 there are other numbers you can dial" WHAT!

chav1 27-12-2006 00:44

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 356860)
the latest add on television is "if you suffer a break in don't dial 999 there are other numbers you can dial" WHAT!

u serious lol

serioulsy i dont watch mutch tv so havnt seen the advert , who you supposed to dial then

GHOSTBUSTERS ?

Ianto.W. 27-12-2006 01:07

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 356862)
u serious lol

serioulsy i dont watch mutch tv so havnt seen the advert , who you supposed to dial then

GHOSTBUSTERS ?

I don't think they consider burglary an emergency any more, it's just a case of putting in a report for your insurance purposes some times this occurs two days later. If you get really lucky and one of them is studying for a crime scene investigators job they come 'mob' handed. Motor accidents are the same "is there anyone hurt" no "get in touch with your insurance then bye bye"

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 10:35

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If you've had a break-in you are supposed to phone the local police station.

That newspaper article doesn't say anythng about tresspassing. It says the berries were growing wild. Were they cultivated trees, jam for the use of? Did the trees belong to someone? Were the ramblers on private land?

chav1 27-12-2006 10:41

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just reminded me of my conversation with the police only the other week

while driving my car my mobile rang , i glanced down at it and saw that it was my home phone dialing me

i immidiatly pulled over and rang the police and informed them that seen as i lived alone there must be somone in my house and told them that i was on my way to investigate and could they have someone there to meet me as i thought maybe i had a burgular

the police informed me that it wasnt a police matter so i asked what had i to do if i get in my house and find myself getting the crap kicked out of me by a couple of burgulars and apparently then it will be a police matter and i should ring them back

luckily my neighbour across the road was more helpful than the police and grabbed a baseball bat and checked my house out with me , luckily there was no burgulars and it was just my phoneline or phone messing up but it could just have easily been a burgular accidently dialing my mobile when stealing the cordless phone set i have

if i hadnt had had the missed call on my mobile no one woulda believed me lol but i thought the polices attitude stank because if there had have been a burgular he woulda gotten a baseball bat around the head and a damn good beating probably resulting in 2 innocent people getting in trouble rather than a theif :rolleyes:

cashman 27-12-2006 10:59

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dont it just make you wonder why ANYONE helps the police? this is just one of many examples,it certainly dont encourage people to be "good citizens":(

katex 27-12-2006 11:21

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 356855)
always another side to a story

trespassing they deserved to be done i wouldnt liek anyone walking about my land either theres pllenty of places to pick berrys that arnt on private land

Yes, saw the news report last night and they did climb over a barbed wire fence to get to the berries. Obvious was private land and they shouldn't have done it. They did seem a lovely couple, however, was only polite to go and ask the owner if they could have some of these berries. He stated, if they had, they could have picked as many as they wished officially.

He really couldn't let it go as may have been followed by many others. Like Chav says, you wouldn't wish people to trample through your garden to pick the strawberries you were growing there, would you ?

I think a warning was fair justice.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 12:07

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So in fact the story about them being wild was actually incorrect? They did belong to someone.

garinda 27-12-2006 12:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 356935)
So in fact the story about them being wild was actually incorrect? They did belong to someone.

Yes they did, they were in a private nature reserve. This couple ignored warning signs, and barbed wire fences, and even the owner to get to the fruit.

Stealing is stealing.

If it was some hooded chav, who had stole the jam from a shop, people would be calling for the return of the birch.

lancsdave 27-12-2006 12:18

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 356935)
So in fact the story about them being wild was actually incorrect? They did belong to someone.


It was printed in the well known comic The Sun, did you expect the truth ? :D

garinda 27-12-2006 12:24

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It wasn't the owner who went to the press with story, it was the theivin' couple from Gloucestershire, who came north on the rob.

They were interviewed with over ten jars of the jelly they'd made from the nicked fruit. They would have been better hanging their heads in shame, instead of bleating about injustice.

Apparently they went armed with sissors, which have damaged the trees, because the fruit should be picked by hand.

Doug 27-12-2006 12:34

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Birch the bastards. I nicked Strawberry’s from a Garden on Willows Lane, I hurt myself running away, fell over the fence which grabbed me and held on to my leg. When the owner got to me he slapped the **** out of me and then said he'd tell my dad, which scared the rest of the **** out of me. Did I get what I deserved? Dam right I did. Did I ever do it again? Dam right I did…..

katex 27-12-2006 12:35

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 356942)
It wasn't the owner who went to the press with story, it was the theivin' couple from Gloucestershire, who came north on the rob.

They were interviewed with over ten jars of the jelly they'd made from the nicked fruit. They would have been better hanging their heads in shame, instead of bleating about injustice.

Apparently they went armed with sissors, which have damaged the trees, because the fruit should be picked by hand.

Oh Garinda, you making me laugh now :D Seems funny when put that way..

You right and sure Willow, if any of your children had come back with these berries, even for the kindest reasons, (so you could make jam for 'em) I know you would have asked them where they got them from and made them go back to apologise.

garinda 27-12-2006 12:40

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Just because they were a middle aged, middle class couple, it makes no difference, stealing is stealing.

If anyone nicked the pots or hanging baskets in my garden, they would get a fork up their arse if I caught 'em.

katex 27-12-2006 12:52

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Think would be a lovely gesture if they gave half the results of the 'pickings' back to the owner.

garinda 27-12-2006 13:10

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http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/...n_page_id=1770

They made nine jars of jelly. Hardly a few berries!

As for not knowing it was private property, they climbed a barbed wire gate and ignored the warning signs that it was a private nature reserve, to get to the Rowan trees.

When challenged, instead of appologising, they rowed with the owner, and now all this bleating to the press about a police state.

I hope some young chav climbs through their kitchen window and steals the jam, and see how quickly they change their mind about involving the police.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 13:12

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 356946)

You right and sure Willow, if any of your children had come back with these berries, even for the kindest reasons, (so you could make jam for 'em) I know you would have asked them where they got them from and made them go back to apologise.


I have often been on country walk as a child and picked wild berries which we took home and made fruit drinks or jam with. The story in K.S.H's link just reads like a couple out for a country ramble and coming across some berries growing wild. There's no mention of barbed wire fences or scissors.

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A RAMBLER who picked berries on a country walk was hunted down by police — and cautioned for THEFT. Ian Blayney and his wife Bette spotted the rowan berries growing wild and collected a bagful to make into jam.
ry in K.S.H's link just reads like a couple out for a country ramble and coming across some berries growing wild.

I would never condone my children or anyone else breaking into private property to steal a cultivated crop but the story just doesn't read like that.

Haven't other people been blackberrying? We used to go up on the fells for whinberries too when I was a child.

garinda 27-12-2006 13:15

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Picking blackberries at the side of a country lane is different, and is not the same thing as this unshamefaced couple are trying to make out.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 13:16

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Whose land were these berries growing on? Even in that last link it isn't clear that they were actively breaking into private land and stealing a cultivated crop. It still says they were wild berries.

garinda 27-12-2006 14:01

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 356962)
Whose land were these berries growing on? Even in that last link it isn't clear that they were actively breaking into private land and stealing a cultivated crop. It still says they were wild berries.


Yes it doesn't, the power of the press, especially the Daily Mail.

It showed on the BBC local news last night the place they parked, and the wall with warnings about it being private property, and the barbed wire five bar gate that they climbed over, armed with sissors and sacks.

The owner was interviewed, and said when he told them they were on private land they started arguing with him.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 15:37

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It almost sounds like two entirely different stories doesn't it? In the paper they say the argument was with the caretaker of a nearby building (as if he had no connection with the berries) and that they stumbled upon these berries, which they paused briefly to pick, whilst out for a walk along the canal bank.

K.S.H 27-12-2006 16:15

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I see there is more to the story coming out now, seemed so innocent when I found it but it doesn't seem that way now does it

jamesicus 27-12-2006 16:56

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This thread got me to ruminating -- are there many places one can pick wild gooseberries, blackberries, raspberries, etc. these days?

When I was a young boy growing up in Burnley there were several places along the walk too and from school where we picked wild berries in season.

James

garinda 27-12-2006 23:16

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Originally Posted by jamesicus (Post 357038)
This thread got me to ruminating -- are there many places one can pick wild gooseberries, blackberries, raspberries, etc. these days?

When I was a young boy growing up in Burnley there were several places along the walk too and from school where we picked wild berries in season.

James

Yes there are still lots of places where berries grow wild. I fill up my freezer with them, and they last for months.:)

All for free, gratis, and without the need to go breaking and entering, and then go bleating to the press about it.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 23:18

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Now can you guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that those berries do not belong to anyone else? ;)

garinda 27-12-2006 23:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 357159)
Now can you guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that those berries do not belong to anyone else? ;)

Her Majesty's Highways and Byways.

If I ever see her, and she demands them back, I shall graciously give 'em to her.:)

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 23:45

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You could always make her a pot of jam in the meantime.

jamesicus 28-12-2006 00:23

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Originally Posted by jamesicus (Post 357038)
This thread got me to ruminating -- are there many places one can pick wild gooseberries, blackberries, raspberries, etc. these days?

When I was a young boy growing up in Burnley there were several places along the walk too and from school where we picked wild berries in season.

James

Also wimberries (now often called blueberries), in season, among the heather in the vicinity of Crown Point.

garinda 28-12-2006 00:30

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Originally Posted by jamesicus (Post 357191)
Also wimberries (now often called blueberries), in season, among the heather in the vicinity of Crown Point.

Wimberries are still available over Pickup Bank near Darwen too.

I'd better shut up, my freezer won't be as full if I keep giving tips for berry pickers.

WillowTheWhisp 28-12-2006 00:37

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I've always called them whinberries.

garinda 28-12-2006 00:40

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 357201)
I've always called them whinberries.


I think that's how we pronounce it round here, with a 'wh', but is definitely wimberries. My family have sold wimberry tarts for over sixty years. Most of them come from Poland now, and are very scarce to get, hence the increase of the similar, though not as tart and tasty, blueberries.

SPUGGIE J 28-12-2006 15:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 357196)
Wimberries are still available over Pickup Bank near Darwen too.

I'd better shut up, my freezer won't be as full if I keep giving tips for berry pickers.


Never mind them do you know of any Damson trees????

Used to be one on Fish Lane in Huncoat till some bright spark rearranged everything for the those candy and plaster houses on the old brick yard.

katex 28-12-2006 16:23

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 357206)
My family have sold wimberry tarts for over sixty years. Most of them come from Poland now, and are very scarce to get, hence the increase of the similar, though not as tart and tasty, blueberries.

Do they still make yer tongue and gums purple though ?

jamesicus 28-12-2006 17:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 357334)
Do they still make yer tongue and gums purple though ?

I remember coming home with blue stained hands and knees from crawling around on the ground while picking wimberries.

WillowTheWhisp 28-12-2006 20:00

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Is it my imagination or do other people think that the less tarty blueberries don't stain as much?

Vicks 28-12-2006 23:02

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If the pair were on private land then yes they should be prosecuted. I think it is a joke when it comes to your property and your rights in your home. If someone does break in to your house and you then try to stop them or cause them any bodily harm it is you the victim that could end up with a criminal record I think it is a joke that you cannot even protect your property! After all by the time the police arrive the criminals would be nowhere in sight.

garinda 28-12-2006 23:06

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 357400)
Is it my imagination or do other people think that the less tarty blueberries don't stain as much?

Blueberries don't stain half as much as wimberries, and they don't have the same inky, purpley blackness to them either.

katex 30-12-2006 22:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 357482)
Blueberries don't stain half as much as wimberries, and they don't have the same inky, purpley blackness to them either.

So according to you they are not as tarty and tasty, not the same colour and not the delight of the staining ! Hmmph 'fings 'aint what they used to be, are they ?

Used to be some blackberry bushes at the bottom of the Coppice, just above the bowling greens.

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2006 23:28

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They're just two different breeds of berries but people seem to be using blueberres these days instead.

garinda 30-12-2006 23:43

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Which is which?

Blueberries or wimberries/whimberries/bilberries?

1/
http://www.mercola.com/images/blog/2...lueberries.jpg

2/
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/AGE/A...C01-363708.jpg

Answers on a postcard please.:D

WillowTheWhisp 31-12-2006 08:38

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I reckon the top ones are blueberries because they look more blue.

I've just been a-googling and there are numerous sites which claim that the whinberry is the same as the blueberry, and even huckleberry and bilberry. There also seem to be two official names 'wimberry' and 'whinberry' which is interesting if most people round here call them wimberries but we have names like Whinney Hill.

garinda 31-12-2006 10:53

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You are right the top one are blueberries. The second are w(h)imberries, or bilberries, which are apparently one and the same.


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