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Well the new mosque at Clitheroe has finally been granted planning permission, and the windows have already started going in, probably before the prayer mats have. It is a sad reflection when after years of trying to find suitable premises, a certain element will not leave them to worship in peace.

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I can understand the feelings of both sides but I don’t see the point of needless act’s of vandalism. Any moves to overt turn the decision will be weakened by this sort of crass attempt at intimidation; all they will do is strengthen claims of racial intolerance and play into the hands pc brigade and give them a reason to scream and shout that we are victimising an ethnic minority. I doubt that this is just kids and thugs alone.

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Doug, How can you undrestand the feelings of both sides???? These are mindless morons with no tolerance of other religions.. Just what justification could they possibly have?

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I was referring to the individuals perhaps not wanting a mosque for valid reasons and those Muslims desperate for there own place of worship. What makes this worse is the morons who have perpetrated this act will more than likely benefit from the community aspects of the project.

What I wasn’t meaning, is that I understood those idiots who where throwing stones through windows. They’re just mindless and ignorant.

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OK, the joys of language eh? :D

I'm still at a loss to think of a valid reason for not having a mosque though.

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I thought you meant they had started putting new windows in at first.:D

Then I clicked on.

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Maybe it's the way I put it......:)

There isn't one to my mind. Not sure if the area it's sited is the best for all concerned but there's no vaild reason for preventing people from having a place of worship irrispective of their chosen or given beliefs.

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My poor use of the Engish language ***Mr D***, it was rather confusing :D.

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so because a future mosque has been vandalised its a racist act now , anyone thought for a second it might just be everyday vandals wrecking an empty building it is usualy what happens to empty buildings :rolleyes:

if they had sprayed racist comments then yes fair enough but all ime hearing is a few windows got busted

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mr d - i thought the same thing

i was like eh? so what is the council payin for new windows or something

or is there a scandal about the new windows that are goin in...

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Is one pertaining to be an expert at grammer and the spoken English language? :eek:;)

If so I will sign up for a few lessons.

As for what is happening the wheels are in motion and there is no point in anyone trying to stop it. Everyone is entitled to worship as the wish regardless of their intollerances of others. Mind you if history is anything to go by religion has killed more people pro rota than any other institution.

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I did think about reviving the earlier thread instead of posting this. To the anonymous karma nicker at least I have the bottle to post them, and risk idiots like you taking hard earned points, just because your drunk with power, it is no wonder the threads posted lately are so mundane when the likes of you pontificate on the posters you do not agree with!

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I'm glad they finally have a mosque, I believe they have been campaigning for one for over 30 years. Why shouldn't they have a place to worship.

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learn to live with it lol most people dont sign negative , only way i can prove it wasnt me would be to deduct you and sign it :)

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that is the LAST thread I will post on this forum.

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seriously lol

must have been a nasty comment you should see some of teh sh1t i get lol

its only karma it cant hurt you :eek:

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haha LIAR!!!

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Just hate sulkers and attention seekers, get over it Ian, would have been best to keep yer 'gob' shut .. that way the karma deducter would not be enjoying this right now. !! Drama Queen .... stay put .... :D:rolleyes:

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I said threads not answers to them, if you would like to meet me in person Mr Kipax and repeat that statement, I may develop some respect for you.

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I take your point katex but I raised a thread to promote a discussion, it may or may not be my own point of view. To raise a thread then told "once is enough" is rather a feeble excuse for removing 11 points.

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i will pm you my addres if you want.. but you better turn up with a big white flag as i dont respond to threats very well..


i would first suggest you re read what i posted and try to see it in a different light... the BIG HAHA should give you a clue.... your not the first person to say they wont post again (yes thats the imprssion many of us got)...then keep posting (done it myself) and that wasn't what prompted my response... if it was meant nasty there wouldnt be a HAHA

but like i say.. if you really want to be threatening then feel free.. i daresay i am easier to find and far less anonymous than you are...

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It was not a threat mr kipax, I gave you an apology last week if you care to look back, as far as being hard to find 31 Eagle St Accrington is my address, no need to hide behind pms, in my lifetime I have kissed the devils backside three times yours can be the fourth.

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Yeh, but you have now negated the power of this thread, which I thought was a reasonable social comment on this issue... OK. maybe could have been added to the other thread for ongoing events but, so what ?? .... only one plonkers comment .. ;)

P.S. I met Kipax in September and surprised to find he is a lovely, normal human being ... :D

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did you read back and understand it was NOT meant as nasty... my explanation is what it is. I think you have gone a little OTT with the whole thing.. again not somehting new to accyweb for anyone of us :)

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******... your not doing my street cred any favours dear :)

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Ok enough of this nonsense we will just agree to differ, but liar was a little strong for my palate, I accept that i'm a little touchy on that subject, bad karma should not be allowed to be given by anoymous donors. ;)

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There is nothing normal about standing outside in the rain taking pictures of men in shorts running around a muddy field :D :D :D

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Amen to that :)

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Seem's like iv'e messed up again katex, will I never learn? :D

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i would hazzard a guess that i ahve met more people off accyweb than anyone else...

i know.. nowt to do wiv mosques..just summat katex said :)

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Ianto, you are your own worst enemy.

Having a tantrum about karma only encorages people to take more.

As I've said many times about karma, until you can spend it in the shop, it doesn't faze me one way or the other.

It's not real...unlike the vandalism this thread was supposed to be about.

Now you and Kipax pucker up and make friends.

There's enough silliness in the world without any unnecessary bad feeling on here.

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Yes but I've slept with more.:D

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is falling asleep in the corner of a pub with other drunken accywebbers....sleeping wiht them? a thin line there methinks :)

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Did you just wake up with cornflakes on your face again? :D :p :D

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I wonder if it would cause as much outrage if it was a different type of religious building? I think everyone should be allowed to have their own religious views as long as it is not inflicted on others!

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so thats how everyone knows your a snorer

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here we go again
assumption,assumption,assumption
if some idiot goes around and smashes the windows of your local CofEthey are just mindless vandals.
but it just so happens that this empty and semi derelict building is due to be a mosque so hey lets throw it straight into the news as another racially motivated attack
when are the idiot pc brigade going to learn
it's comments like this that cause more bleedin' harm than good when it comes to inter-racial relations
the more they brand every little thing as a racial attack the more we are likely to see rataliation
this was more likely to be another act of mindless and probably drunken vandalism on an empty building and not a racially motivated attack.

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But were there any windows broken before planning permission was given for change of use to a Mosque?

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does it matter

all we can do is speculate as to the reason behind the vandalism
but in most cases it is a spur of the moment thing
it is just that the pc brigade are too quick to shout racial attack without having any facts to back it up and that attitude is dangerous to any mixed community
as i said if it had been any other religious building no-one would have mentioned the word racial but as soon as its a mosque it is instantly racially motivated and all hell breaks loose.

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Hello what happened to the serious discussion, are you all struggling to read lol it does say at the top of general chat SERIOUS DISCUSSION not having a banter with each other (is that not what the other sections of this forum are for?). Thought I had got the wrong site at first. Anyway I've had my whinge now!

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Agreed, this can't be classed primarily as a racist attack. Unless there are more facts, we simply don't know. More likely seasonal vandalism.

Apparently the Nativity crib in Ossy was vandalised on New Year's Eve. Unless I find out anything different, I'm not presuming that it was attacked by an angry mob of Atheists.

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Maybe it was a revenge attack for the windows ;)

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Perhaps it was angry shepherds, as apparently there was only one of them represented around the mangey manger.:D

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But was it a SERIOUS whinge or an ironic post :)

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how does smashing a nativity display effect bill gates ?

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Linux users always did have a funny way of doing things:)

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It's known as a thread wander Vicks. You'll find a lot of them on AccyWeb but more often than not we get back to the subject again before a moderator comes in a hits us with a big stick. ;)

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Will you and Vicks please get back on thread.:D

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Rindy -> :worthy: :whip: <- Willow

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Don't start him off, it's not good for him to get him over excited.

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I was thinking the same thing. More than coincidence, perhaps? This building apparently went unmolested until current events. And hadn't it once been a Christian church/chapel? Is it not true that Christian churches in Britain have a hard time maintaining a congregation these days? Use it or lose it.

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I'm not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult! :D

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Very true. It always amuses me when people come on here spluttering about how this is a "Christian country". I wonder how many of them actually go to church? I wonder how many of the good, upstanding citizens of Clitheroe who are up in arms about this, bothered to go to the building when it was a church?

Personally, it always upsets me when licenced premises are turned into mosques (or any other religious establishment). Now, that's REAL sacrilege but I don't go chucking Noris through their windows.