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glasgow guy

04-01-2007 19:35

martholme grange - sealed off by police ??

just been told that said place was sealed off from 4.30pm onwards today due to a dead body which had been burned was found on the back seat of a car there.....can anyone confirm this or not ?....just been told that it was an asian woman ???
now I dont know if this is true or not....

this is all I was told sorry ...

chav1

04-01-2007 19:39

Re: martholme grange - sealed off by police ??

sorry i havnt been there since they shut it down and turned it into a house

i am thinking of teh right place aint i

grabb a granny night etc :)

glasgow guy

04-01-2007 19:40

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you are thinking of the right place....

lancsdave

04-01-2007 19:41

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According to another forum I'm on an asian female has been found burned in the back of a car.

cherokee

04-01-2007 19:42

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quote=chav1;361051]sorry i havnt been there since they shut it down and turned it into a house

i am thinking of teh right place aint i

grabb a granny night etc :)[/quote]

trust you to remember those nights lmao!!!!! nice one chav:p :D

WillowTheWhisp

04-01-2007 21:57

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I used to like it as a house before it was first converted. Haven't heard anything about this death.

Lolly

04-01-2007 22:13

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I've looked everywhere and can't find anything about this. Strange??

panther

05-01-2007 11:01

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more about it here.......
http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap...eat_of_car.php

WillowTheWhisp

05-01-2007 11:10

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I wonder how people went on who lived on that road and wanted to get home.

cashman

05-01-2007 11:10

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cant understand the report =police are treating this as an "unexplained" death rather than suspicious? if i discovered a burnt body on the backseat of a car somehow i would think it suspicious. :confused:

Lolly

05-01-2007 11:13

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You'd think. I thought the same cashman.

WillowTheWhisp

05-01-2007 11:14

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There must be some sort of subtle technical difference.

Lolly

05-01-2007 11:16

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 361373)

I wonder how people went on who lived on that road and wanted to get home.

It says that the Landlord of the Walton Arms said the traffic flow was steady or something. Maybe the police were letting people through slowly??? I can't see them have closing the whole road off, like you said Willow people live on there and its a major road, due to the industrial park.

cashman

05-01-2007 11:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 361378)

There must be some sort of subtle technical difference.

or they must have sent muppets to investigate.:D

mani	05-01-2007 11:34

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 361374)

agreed

i mean i can explain the death

she burnt to death. surely that wud b logical right?

WillowTheWhisp

05-01-2007 11:35

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Maybe it was suicide like the guy who the police decided had stabbed himself to death 25 times.

Lolly

05-01-2007 11:41

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If it is suicide, its very unusual. Women statistically dont kill themselves in ways that will affect their looks and that is painful and drawn out.

It is all very strange though, there must definately be something there that makes them say unexplained and not suspicious.

cashman

05-01-2007 11:43

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361393)

for some it may improve them.:D

Lolly

05-01-2007 11:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 361395)

for some it may improve them.:D

tut, tut, tut ;)

entwisi

05-01-2007 12:01

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361380)

If they can close teh M6 over thelwall (as has happened) they can easily close a little road in a village outside accy.

Lolly

05-01-2007 12:04

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True, True....

Ianto.W.

05-01-2007 12:29

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361393)

If it is suicide, its very unusual. Women statistically dont kill themselves in ways that will affect their looks and that is painful and drawn out.

It is all very strange though, there must definately be something there that makes them say unexplained and not suspicious.

During apartheid in South Africa they found a couloured man dead, he had been shot three times wrapped in barbed wire and stabbed three times, the coroner said it was the worst case of suicide he'd ever come across. Sorry for thread wandering but these mysteries ie honour killings etc seem to get hushed up somehow, this may not be the case but this seems to have been kept out of the media.

chav1

05-01-2007 12:33

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361393)

If it is suicide, its very unusual. Women statistically dont kill themselves in ways that will affect their looks and that is painful and drawn out.

also women are very fashion concious and bar B Q season ended months ago :)

Lolly

05-01-2007 12:48

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 361419)

During apartheid in South Africa they found a couloured man dead, he had been shot three times wrapped in barbed wire and stabbed three times, the coroner said it was the worst case of suicide he'd ever come across. Sorry for thread wandering but these mysteries ie honour killings etc seem to get hushed up somehow, this may not be the case but this seems to have been kept out of the media.

As soon as I read the original post to my Mum, she just said Honour Killing. What are these, I have an idea, but not totally sure.

chav1

05-01-2007 12:52

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361432)

As soon as I read the original post to my Mum, she just said Honour Killing. What are these, I have an idea, but not totally sure.

i think its like a punishment killing

in some cultures a woman can be stoned to death or other methods for commiting adultry for example

Lolly

05-01-2007 12:53

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Yeah, thats kind of the thing I thought. Thanx.

WillowTheWhisp

05-01-2007 12:54

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It doesn't even have to be adultery. Sometimes if a woman falls in love with someone outside of her race/culture it is considered more honourable to kill her than to have her involved with someone 'unsuitable'.

chav1

05-01-2007 12:59

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isnt this the same style killing as when that guy got tied up and burnt over the tops of great harwood

Ianto.W.

05-01-2007 13:05

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 361432)

As soon as I read the original post to my Mum, she just said Honour Killing. What are these, I have an idea, but not totally sure.

There is quite a lot of it goes unreported or left to die a death of silence. An example if a family arranges a marriage, and the boy or girl is unwilling to go through with it that is bringing dishonour on the family, and can sometimes have fatal consequenses.

Neil	05-01-2007 13:06

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The Police forensic bods will be busy if they they start taking DNA samples from what used to be the old car park :D

cashman

05-01-2007 13:08

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 361441)

isnt this the same style killing as when that guy got tied up and burnt over the tops of great harwood

that was what crossed my mind, will come out in the wash i suppose.

chav1

05-01-2007 13:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 361446)

that was what crossed my mind, will come out in the wash i suppose.

i dont tink so the post he was tied to has been there for years and its still charred

mani	05-01-2007 14:58

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so if the body was burnt

how do ppl know it was an asian woman? and not a rather burnt up woman?

chav1

05-01-2007 15:44

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 361471)

so if the body was burnt

how do ppl know it was an asian woman? and not a rather burnt up woman?

maybe the body wasnt 100% burnt, mind you experts can tell from bone , facial structure etc roughly wat origin a person is.

i was going to say because the body was black but that would be bad taste even for me :o

Neil	05-01-2007 16:03

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 361497)

i was going to say because the body was black but that would be bad taste even for me :o

Or maybe there was 6 kids in the back with no seat belts on :eek: :rolleyes: :D

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