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Heard on teh radio this morning that a couple in N wales are being 'investigated' for smoking in their own home because a neighbour has complained he can smell teh smoke in his house!!!

What is this country coming to. The council should not be wasting a single minute of time and effort in this stupid persecution. Next they will be telling poeple they can't fart or do a stinky one in the loo!

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yet the council will do virtualy sod all when a neighbour keeps you awake every night for months with loud music :rolleyes:

bloody pathetic infact the complainer should be prosecuted for harrasing his neighbour :rolleyes:

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Same here, If I choose to go into someones home that smokes or a pub etc that I know will be smoky then thats my choice. in my home I exect eole not to smoke unless I say its OK. BUt as for imposing my views on a neighbour, no way should that be allowed

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Its pathetic, I completely understand complaining about noise but not smoke, we shouldn't be told what to do in our own homes.

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Absolute garbage, your home your rules.

Will there be a restriction on the type of food you can cook next as some cooking I have smelt streets away.

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absolutely bloody ridiculous
its idiots like this that waste valuable council and police resources
and clog up the system which means real issues don't get sorted out
people like this enrage me
yes i am all for dealing with real nuisance neighbours but this just extracts the urine. and whats worse is the council entertain it whilst as some people have mentioned they don't do sod all about loud music at all hours and vandalism etc

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they must smoke like a bloody chimney if they can smell it next door, that or there walls are very thin!

I gave up smoking and yes if you are a none smoker you can smell a fag a long away, I can smell the neighbours coming out of there window when its open , but been investigated in your own home :eek: thats taking the pi$$!!

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Well if the complaint is serious enough to be investigated then I presume this couple are either smoking wacky baccy or using their chimney as a bong.

There's no smoke without fire...




I'll get me coat

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you know you cud be right! never thought of that

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interesting thought!

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We used to smoke in our house, but since I was pregnant its been No Smoking. I would never dream of telling someone in their own home not to smoke.

This investigation is pathetic, they must have paper for walls, my neighbours smoke pot and it doesn't bother me in the slightest, can't smell anything, and they are well behaved off it.

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I know the council up here stated that if you smoked and a council official was due to visit they didnt want you lighting up for the previous hour. Whether that was because the visitor might be a none smoker or it is incase the employee might get lung cancer I aint a scooby. To be reported for it and the council treating it as some social crime beats the hell out of me. So the council takes action and you change jobs and at the interview they ask about criminal convictions imagine haveing to say you recieved an asbo for smoking at home!

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sorry but if i smoked and wanted a fag in my OWN home, I will have one, NO suited up div will tell me otherwise, even if the queen came she would have to lump it too......as I have always said 'they take you how they find you' otherwise BOG OFF....:D


BUT I dont smoke so I aint got that problem!!:rolleyes:

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Better watch they dont accuse smokers at home of attempted murder! :eek:

Right attitude though Panther. :D

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A bit over the top this one, I couldn't beleive my own ears at first, I thought it was a joke. With neighbours like these you certainly don't need any enemies.

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I dont think the council have any right to try and enforce that, and I'm sure they'd be told where to go!

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The laws rules and regs up here are so confusing that I wouldnt put it pass the councils trying it on.

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Yeah how stupid, its getting to the point were smokers,drivers, etc get a rougher ride than criminals, all the stupid fines for driving a car or smoking and joe bloggs goes to court and gets a lesser fine and sentence for theiving, and then when you smoke your put to the back of the nhs cues if you smoke, now this is nonsense to say because you smoke you should go to the back of the cue to say the goverments taxes are probably filled up most by ciggerettes and alcohol. I stopped smoking over a year ago and is one of the best things i did but still find it unfair for those whose willpower isnt as good as alot of other people, who dreams up these stupid laws.

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It doesn't say what they're smoking. Kippers perhaps? :D

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"Thou Shalt Not Smoke" looks like becoming the eleventh commandment if the self opinionated non smokers have their way.

Not content with having got their way about smoking in general they now want to dictate what a person does in their own home.

Of course they conveniently forget that as they drive off in the poisonous fumes belching car, THEIR EXHAUST FUMES INVADE MY HOUSE er flat.

During the same programme it was also reported that if a Council official is to visit a house the occupants must not smoke ONE HOUR before the official’s arrival. Now how are they going to enforce that as most official visits are on spec? And someone suggested that people approaching the Council offices should stop smoking BEFORE THEY REACH THEM.

How long before the Council, being the owner of rented social housing, will decree that the tenants can no longer smoke in their property? How are they going to police that? CCTV in each room?

I notice that government is going all out to get us all to quit smoking with a new £7m advertising campaign that is attempting to frighten us into submission. Little weird beings resident inside the brain and a list of chemicals in modern day tobacco products. I also notice that the ads for nicotine patches also include the words, “It will help your will power.” An admission, if ever there was one, that nicotine patches are not the be all and end all answers to stopping smoking and will power is paramount as it always has been.

The worst part is that some non-smokers are crawling out of the woodwork gloating about the success in attacking the smokers. Well take heed you gloaters, the no smoking in enclosed public spaces campaign has established a precedent where the government can tell you, the citizen of the UK, what you can do and where. Your totally selfish behaviour in the smoking debate will backfire on you when Big Brother comes a calling.

And now this crackpot idea of increasing the age to 18 where buying tobacco products is legal. I suppose that NL considers that if the 16 & 17 year olds can no longer buy cigarettes they will quit. Some will but the rest will get them by hook or by crook.

Logically the government should follow the anti-smoking campaign with a similar one about vehicle exhaust fumes and how they are poisoning all and sundry. Will they tell us what lethal chemicals there are in vehicle exhaust fumes?

With the same logic New Labour should also attack drinkers. After all they are complaining bitterly about binge drinking by the young. Years ago when beer was beer made in the traditional way it was made from organic ingredients. Then came what people called “chemical beer” as production was speeded up to cut down production costs and increase profit. Lager in particular was known as a chemical drink and today the main tipple is lager.

So come NL tell us what is in a pint of lager.

People who would invite someone to have a drink with them with the phrase, “What’s your poison” don’t realise how true a statement that is.

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Looking at it from a different slant.

Why do people complain about noise?

If it is because it annoys or disturbs them then could this not also be true about a smell? People around Altham have been known to complain about the smell from Whinny Hill.

Is there really any difference between a smelly tip and fag smoke?

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Yes Jambutty let's tar all non smokers with the same brush, eh?
We're all over opinionated and all drive big diesel lorries past YOUR flat demanding you stop smoking there and then.
:mad:

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Although it's totally daft I bet it's not too distant in the future that smoking is banned in the home if you have children. It'll be to protect their rights, and I suppose I can see some logic there for a change.

So any smokers, who will soon be banned from lighting up in the pubs etc, will be welcome round at Rindy Towers, but do bring your own ashtray.:D

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I agree Garinda, people who smoke in there house who have children are disgusting, when your an adult you can choose if you want to smoke etc, but these kids dont have a choice of the matter, this shouldnt need to be brought into law, its commen sense.

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I think this is a good point, drinking can be just as harmfull as smoking.

As for not being able to smoke one hour before a council officer came round. Im sorry but a comment like that would make me more wanting to fill the room with smoke to prove a point.

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So we can now go about complaining to the authorities when anyone annoys or disturbs us. Great! I have a long list that I could conjure up but being a live and let live type of person I won’t unless, and this is the crux of the matter, unless the annoyance is excessive. That is the operative word – excessive. Pray tell me what is so excessive about a slight whiff of tobacco smoke.

Making a noise during daylight hours and even up until 11:00pm doesn’t bother me, unless the noise is that loud that I cannot comfortably hear my own radio or TV.
I put up with the nearby farmer muck spreading his fields. After all it only lasts for a day or two.
I, like many other people, put up with all sorts of minor annoyances and inconveniences and even some major ones at times.
Fireworks.
Noisy kids on the street.
Noisy and smelly barbecues next door.
DIY work.
The list goes on and on.

The modern trend is to tar everyone with the same brush shakermaker but I accept that there will be many, many non smokers who don’t give a hoot about what someone does in their own home.

However I do have a legitimate complaint against vehicles. Come round to my flat at around 8:30am then around 12:00noon and finally at around 3:15pm. The air is thick with vehicle exhaust fumes from the cars driven by parents collecting their little darlings from school across the road. Except that they are not so little being 12 years of age and older and fully capable of walking home or catching a bus. On calm days those fumes linger for hours and in spite of having all my windows and doors shut they still manage to stink my flat out.

As you garinda and you guru point out that kids have no choice if their parents smoke in the home. But they also have no choice but to breathe in disgusting, revolting and poisonous vehicle exhaust fumes, yet no on is complaining about them or more importantly doing anything about them.

It is really a case of double standards.

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Willow the baboons sent out litriture with all this gunf on and refused to visit the mother in law because she had been smoking.

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Surely, if just the smell, cannot be a legitimate claim, the law is being brought in because of passive smoking, is it not? Lots of worse smells.

How would council workers know if you had been smoking one hour before they arrived anyway? one puff of me apple and honeysuckle air freshener and, Eh, Presto, all gone !

If they get away with it won't be long before the neighbour retaliates here on every little incident with regard to the complainer, and lots of waring neighbours will abound throughout the country.

I am troubled by certain air fresheners, and seeing its now a nation of plug-ins, sprays, blocks, scented cleaners, candles ... could start with that one. Don't even mention Vanilla.

As far as I am concerned 'An Englishman's home (in this case Englishwoman's home) is his castle' and having paid out heavy mortgage repayments in the past, that is the way it is going to Bl**dy well stay !!

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Ah, but there you go Willow, re. Jambutty's remarks on car fumes, these seemingly are the biggest killers of asthma sufferers.

Not really about people who already have a known disease though really is it ? More about the potential of contracting one. With lots of asthma sufferers, can also be pshycosomatic, animals, stress, etc., .. my friend's attacks are brought on by her cat whom she loves dearly, but no way will she get rid, even though it may prove fatal to her one day. So, do we get rid of those too (shut up Chav) and other triggers. Don't think a fair point.

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Ok i smoke and if i go to my sisters who doesnt smoke i either dont smoke or stand out in the back garden with my bro in law who smokes cigars. If i go to my other sisters who does smoke but not in her house only at the back door exactly the same there smoke at the back door normally with her cadging a cig as well. If i go out anywhere to anybody's house i dont smoke unless they say i can do and even then most of the time i wont smoke because its their house and i dont want to make their house smell especially if they dont smoke. My house is a different story - its MY house so why cant i smoke in it. I've bought it - its mine so why should i be stopped doing something in my own house what i want to do? My mum & dad had a rule - only smoke downstairs not up in the bedrooms especially after my mum nearly set fire to house falling asleep with a cig in her mouth.

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We mustn't forget that this is still a story in a newspaper. No one has been fined or even stopped from smoking in their own homes.

The council received a complaint, and are quite rightly investigating it.

I presume it was the two smokers who went to the press with the story. They might be quite happy if it turns out the council's enquiry reveals that infact their house is made out of straw, and could have been huffed, and puffed, and blown over by any passing evil wolf.:D

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My point was that the chap who had breathing problems sorted out his own solution and I think it's up to the non-smoking couple to check where there house lets smoke through from next door and to sort that out themselves. If they have any holes it's up to them to block them up, npt demand that the neighbours stop smoking.

There could be an ironic 'solution' to this if the council insists that the neighbours smoke outside - the smoke could drift over the fence and in through the windows! :eek:

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That will be the next complaint Willow, you cant smoke in your garden!

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The person who made the complaint has opened a whole can of worms, which the local authority can close by telling the complainant to go away and not to be so silly. But will they?

If I were the couple who are now facing an investigation I would come back with a counter complaint about the vehicle exhaust fumes coming into their home from the complainant’s car, if s/he has one and s/he probably does.

It seems to me that more and more people seem to think that the world revolves around them and demand that the world must change to their requirements.

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I still cant work out how the smoke got into the house next door. Were they drilling holes into the wall through to the house next door and blow in smoke while having a fag? Mad ruddy mad.

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