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Once again HBC (Herr Britcliffe & Co) have come up with another way of encouraging us to recycle. A £1000. fine if you don't. I received a little note through my door stating that my house has been monitored and I don't recycle. So therefore I assume that who ever collects this rubbish has a list that is ticked when we leave out our bags and we get a letter if we don,t.

If they had "monitored" my house properly they would have noticed that in my yard I have a bin for glass, a bin for tins, a bin for paper and a bin for plastic. Which I take up to Great Harwood myself.

I wish they'd stop encouraging people with sledgehammers.........:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Just being nosey, why do you take it to be re-cycled yourself, rather than let them collect it?

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I also take the stuff to the tip myself. I know full well that if I put the recycling containers/bags out for collection they won't be coming back.

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I leave for work at 5.30 am by the time they get to our house it's half way down the road...

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typical council, why dont they go to a spot where theres always rubbish been dumped and see whos fly tipping!

the nosy gits if they watched there employees who empty the stuff they will notice that they dont do there job right in the first place!!

eg leaving bottles lying around that they dropped and putting the wrong bags and boxes at the wrong house!!!

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I can see both your points, though I'm nearly always in when they collect mine, so it's not really a problem for me.

Although I have been a big critic of HBC, I must point out that the service I get is great, and they always return the right box, with my bags safely underneath.

There are people who still don't re-cycle, and the council is under pressure from the government to meet targets set by them.

If people aren't re-cycling, how do you think they should be encouraged to do it? You obviously see the importance as you go to the bother of taking your stuff to be re-cycled yourself.

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It's fine if you leave your containers/bags outside your house, they will more oftne than not leave them in that vicinity when they empty them. In my case we have to leave everything at the end of the back street. As I'm out all day at work on the day they collect I know there's no chance of getting them back, they will be on e-bay !!

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I can see that would be a pain. Unlike the wheelie bin which has to be left at the backdoor, the re-cycling stuff has to be left at the front door of each house.

The team we get, I can't fault.

We even get a very pleasant man round the next day picking and sweeping up anything that may have blown away, if I haven't already beaten him to it.:D

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Recycling is important to me and I have the means to able to go to these centres myself so I do.

If the council provide a service I believe thay should provide the best they can. There are place all over Hyndburn that "banks" could be placed and not just at prominent retailers I mean in the places where people live.

That way people who dont drive or are not at home when they come to collect, can go at their own time and recycle.

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I totally see where you are coming from, and God forbid I ever start being an appologist for HBC, but the figures don't add up. Much more stuff is being re-cycled now that there are door to door collections, than there ever was, or would be, when people had to take it to designated sites. Not everyone is as committed as yourself.

The problems people have posted about I can see need improving, but like I said I can honestly say the service I get is good.

What incensed me, and prompted me to contact the Observer recently, was that 10% of all waste in the borough, coming from trade and including the Town Hall, isn't re-cycled at all.

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The problem with sticking recycle banks here there and everywhere is that most of them will become vandalised within months.

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...and wherever they are sited, no one wants to live near them because of the noise, smells etc.

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I agree totally.

I actually work for HBC (he said in a very very hushed voice) and the way some collegues "work" saddens me.

I think much more should be done in HBC's own backyard before we start threatening resident with fines.

There are some of us in the council that try to work to best of our ability, but there are those who see it as a "cushy number"

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Ooooer :D Somebody likes living dangerously.


Back to topic:
I don't put my box out every collection week because it doesn't seem worth it unless it's full. It doesn't get full in a fortnight and that isn't because I put recyclable things in the bin. The blue bag goes out every time because it is always full, sometimes we even use a second blue bag.

Last week we put 2 blue bags out but after they'd been emptied they must have blown away because we never got them back. I phoned up and was told that a lot had gone astray with the wind and they were going to send me 2 replacements. Somewhere there must be a great pile of recycle bags littering up the place. I wonder if we'll ever find them?

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my mum takes her rubbish to the tip herself mainly because she cant manage the wheelie bin and dosnt like leaving the gates unlocked if they collect it for her especialy after getting burgaled a couple of years ago .

i cant wait till i get the same letter because my recyclin gear went into teh wheelie bin the day i got it

the way HBC are going people will fly tip and then the rubbish wont even make it to the tip never mind be recycled

HBC want my tins , bottles and paper sorting out they can do it their bloody selves i have better things to do than clean up rubbish and have better use for the space the boxes and bags take up in my kitchen, infact where the blue box etc should be provided a space for a new tumble dryer and i wont leave rubbish in the garden as it is a hazzard to my children

£1000 lol i would love to see them try and get it :mad:


come down on manufacturers 1st its their crap etc thats teh problem

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The less we do, and the more they have to do to sort it, will just mean larger Community tax increases for all of us.

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Well i know where 2 of the blue box's are the workmen where using them to put weeds in on that roundabout at the bottom of king street:)
I nearly went over and told them they where using the wrong box hehe:D

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to put it simple

BOLLOX

HBC never justifies increases they just do them and make excuses and pass the blame onto joe public , teh real problem with HBC is that its money is dwindled away by incompitants with no financial eductation what so ever

its about time the whole local council system is shook up and only people with buisness degrees etc be able to sighn a cheque for starters

anyway as for sorting teh rubbish out we should have chain gangs at tips doing it

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HBC, like every other council in the country, is under pressure, and will be fined, if they don't meet re-cycling quotas. Either way, people refusing to co-operate, or them not meeting their target, the result will be the same, higher Council Tax bills.

I'm totally with the Government on this. We need, and should be, re-cycling more. We are running out of landfill sites, and no one wants new ones near to where they live.

If the threat of fines mean that some people, who have no intention of re-cycling, have to participate, so be it.

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anyone remember getting milk in cardboard cartons , thats one thing there for starters and the plastic bottles that are used now are the hardest kind of plastic to recycle

again i stress my point that it shouldnt be joe public bearing teh responsability of saving teh planet but the manufacturers of the products that our goods come wrapped in

to be quite honest i dont think the planet is worth saving but good luck to those that do :)

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M&S have stated this week that they intend to use less packaging, because of the pressures on people to recycle. Others will follow.


http://www.letsrecycle.com/info/wast...jsp?story=6439

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i still think peopel on comunity service etc should be sifting and sorting garbage out and not us , teh thought of wading through used nappies etc may make them think twice about crime :)

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I don't know what your problem is, with it only taking about five minutes per week to sort your rubbish out.

That's five minutes a week you could keep yourself out of mischief.:D

You could even wear rubber gloves to do it, if you are worried about dirtying your lilly white, lady sized hands

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the point is i dont want to do it and i wont because the last time i checked we were still allowed to have our own minds

i wouldnt mind but this recycling lark is a huge con anyway , new reports that i heard on the radio show that by the time the process of recycling , collecting it etc from start to finish is completed there is very little benefit to the enviroment anyway , emiisions from recycling process plants etc, emissions from teh bin waggons spewing diesel fumes into the air etc

do teh council sort through teh many litter bins we have or do they not practice what they preach ?

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People do things everyday we don't want to do.

Pay tax, drive sensibly, sweep the streets.

We don't have to do anything. We could all be selfish, and live in an anarchist sh*t heap.

Let me know which jail you are sent, to and I will write you a letter, as long as you promise to recycle it after you've read it.

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hey if you want to turn your house into hbc's mini recycleing plant then thats your choice , i put my rubbish in the bin and it goes in teh bin waggon , thats the way its been and thats teh way its gonna stay for me

i like everyone else does things they would rather not but having my rubbish monitored for christ sake is a bloody joke

come on if HBC put as much effort into cleaning the town as they put into scrutinising peoples litter we would all be living in a better place

all these fines etc are laughable and it will come back to bite HBC and all the other councils in the backside because if they think fly tipping is a problem now just wait and see how bad it gets when they start victimising joe public

if HBC give me £20 a week for ground rent for their tubs and bags and labour for washing out tins and organising the waste then i will do it but i am not putting myself out for one single second because HBC say i have to

rubbish belongs outside in the bin and not blocking up your hallway or left for dogs and cats to rummage through in your garden or yard

at my other address some clown from the council came accusing me of fly tipping just because someone else threw a black bag outside my back gate and threatened me with a £1000 fine and after clearing it up that it wasnt mine he offered to send somone round to show me how to recysle and i told him that unless they were gonna come every week he needent bother

dont wory though because the next generation is been brainwashed into following the line so when people like me are dead and gone teh country will be full of eager beevers who want to do it

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I am looking for my own mini recycling kit: that I can store neatly in my back garden: anyone any idea's: I will of course take this to the my local tip to empty: ( hey maybe they could reduce our rates if we do our own)
its seems to me, that its a bit blue peter (ish) with silly plastic sacks, why don't they issue boxes or bins for the lot: just looked out my window and there are plastic carton's everywhere:

just a thought magpie:

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I think this is a good idea, maybe not just for the above, but maybe punishment for some crimes should be labour in the community.

And round my area I am probably one of 4 houses that have a bin out on recycle day, the back is full of rubbish & Black Bags on 'Bins Day' and nothing has ever been done warnings,ect

I recon HBC only give the threat of '£1000 Fine' to people who they think might change or be able to afford it.

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when recycling first stareted in accrington i did actualy make an effort by putting my glass and paper in seperat tubs but then HBC started leaving bits and bats of rubbish in my blue tub etc as they suddenly got fussy as to what was to be taken and what wasnt so i ended up just slinging the lot in the wheelie bin


because i worked i often came home to soggy cardboard to scrape out of my tub or it was blowing all over the street

if HBC come up witha better way of recycling them i would probably do it but the current sysytem is not convinent to me so i wont :)

speaking of leaving stuff behind you shuld see the mess outside today :rolleyes:

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I think instead of fines, the selfish people who refuse to recycle and don't give a damn about the future of our environment, should be forced by the courts to pick up other people's litter, or work sorting out the rubbish at a recycling plant.:D

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We never had 'tubs', just a box and sacks. Are you sure you didn't dream you once participated?
:D

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Well Excuse Me.:D :D :D

I happen to participate every second week by putting out my 'blue box' and 'sacks'.:p

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Yes, but not 'tubs' plural.

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It was bin day across the road yesterday and our garden had it's usual collection of somebody else's escaped rubbish. My grumble with this is that once it's in my garden HBC class it as mine and I have to put it in my bin - with the result that the next day when it's our turn my bin lid won't shut!! :mad:

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excuse me my rubbish dosnt go on the floor it goes in the bin, all teh mess thats around is because recyclers stuff is left to blow about because HBC staff dont pick it up if it falls out of the containers ;)


there are some good staff that will pick up the extra binliner if somone hasnt managed to cope with 1 wheelie bin but they are under strict orders not to do it which to me is pathetic as it just means black bags getting torn apart and rubbish everywhere

HBC want to sort their own back yard out before lecturing people

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Tubs.:confused: ;) :D

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...and where does your rubbish go after you've put it in your bin?

Maybe there might be enough landfill sites for your lifetime's rubbish, though I doubt it, but what about your children, and your children's children?

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Don't know about anyone elses but round here it stays there !!. Just been to collect my wheelie bin from the end of the back street. All been emptied except 2 which are still stood there full to the brim. Can somebody explain to me regardless of the contents ( which I presumed is why they haven't been emptied) what the council expect these bins to do ? Perhaps they are going to wheel themselves to Whinney Hill, or maybe if they wait around long enough they can get kicked over by the local deadheads and the rubbish will be all over the streets. :confused:

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Well in response to my previous post at least somebody not a million miles from Accy has decided to take the binmen to task for the rubbish they leave behind :D

BINMEN could face £60 fines for leaving a village's streets in a mess when they collect residents' rubbish.

Worsthorne Parish Council is threatening to become one of the first parish authorities in the country to invoke its power to issue fixed penalty notices in order to tackle the problem left by refuse collectors.

Tony Lambert, chairman of the parish council, said they were considering the step after residents in Worsthorne were left exasperated at the "mess" the binmen had left in their village.

Complaints included the cardboard recycling bags being left by binmen and the contents being blown over and strewn across the area.

They also claim that paper from the blue recycling bags was left littering the streets after collections.

The fixed penalty notice scheme would involve parish councillors keeping an eye on binmen as they went about their job and taking down the details of anyone causing litter.

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20 binliners left on my street alone , its gonna be tidy on my street toorrow after the cats have finished