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steeljack 17-01-2007 18:25

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I just read this story in the evening telegraph and its caused me to have a "senior moment " I'm trying to remember where the Load of Mischief pub/bus stop was located, I thought it was on the corner where this story mentions the Hare and Hounds as being located , is my memory playing tricks , I seem to remember a pub on the corner, a bank across the street on the same side, and opposite the cinema/bingo hall , cant for the life of me remember what was on the 4th corner
thanks

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...east_lancs.php

entwisi 17-01-2007 20:17

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yes, it was those X roads. The load of mischief was knocked down when they made the motorway.

My dad once fell off his motorcycle ther when a kiddie ran out in front of him. It was cobbles back then and when wet they were lethal for bikes.

Margaret Pilkington 17-01-2007 20:18

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The Load of Mischief was on the other corner diagonal from the Hare and Hounds. It has been gone a long long time.....can't just think how long, but I guess there will be someone on here who will tell us.

steeljack 17-01-2007 20:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 369934)
The Load of Mischief was on the other corner diagonal from the Hare and Hounds. It has been gone a long long time.....can't just think how long, but I guess there will be someone on here who will tell us.

so it was next door to the cinema ?

WillowTheWhisp 17-01-2007 20:21

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I took a whole series of photos when they were remaking that junction with the motorway underneath. At one stage the NatWest (which is now a funeral parlour) was on a traffic island in the middle of a roundabout.:D But I'm blowed if I can tell you when it was!

Margaret Pilkington 17-01-2007 20:25

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Well, there was the garage next door to the pub and then there was the Carlton Picture house...although when I moved to clayton in 1966 it was a Bingo hall run by Fred Skinner.

Margaret Pilkington 17-01-2007 20:26

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 369940)
I took a whole series of photos when they were remaking that junction with the motorway underneath. At one stage the NatWest (which is now a funeral parlour) was on a traffic island in the middle of a roundabout.:D But I'm blowed if I can tell you when it was!

Eh, Willow, I can't remember that at all. Must've moved it while I was on nights.

steeljack 17-01-2007 20:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 369945)
Well, there was the garage next door to the pub and then there was the Carlton Picture house...although when I moved to clayton in 1966 it was a Bingo hall run by Fred Skinner.

yep , your right , all coming back to me now ,
thanks :D :D

cherokee 17-01-2007 20:33

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taking a wild guess id say all that was about 30+ years ago..my gran lived op toward martholme grange and when wed been to town wed always get off the bus outside the load of mischief..

Margaret Pilkington 17-01-2007 20:38

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I remember catching the bus up there when I was doing my Nurse training.....and that was more than 30 years ago...so I reckon it could be in the region of 30 years......I don't think it is 30+ though.

entwisi 17-01-2007 20:55

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I remember teh LoM pub and I'm 37 so it can't be much over 30 years if that.

cherokee 17-01-2007 21:24

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 369968)
I remember teh LoM pub and I'm 37 so it can't be much over 30 years if that.



well i rem from being bout 7/8ish but cant rem when it was pulled down ..although i do rem the road being altered so your prob right entwisi

WillowTheWhisp 17-01-2007 22:15

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It definitely wasn't pre 1970.

Ianto.W. 18-01-2007 11:56

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I remember going in the 'Load' for a pint, as we had just moved to Clayton and was giving it the 'once over', there was only two people in the pub ,unusual for those days. "Where is everyone" I said "over road in't Hare n hounds, new landlords fell out wi Cobby". Apparantly Cobby were a bit of a character and if you kicked one they all limped. Has it changed?

notts 19-01-2007 16:38

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as a kid in the 70s i live on blackburn rd down from the lom the house use to be the old police station

Bazf 19-01-2007 19:03

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Traditionally Clayton-le-Moors was always considered to be a town of two halves. You were either a 'top-ender' or a 'bottom-ender' - depending on which side of the Load O'Mischief pub you lived on. The two had definite opinions about each other and rarely mixed socially. There was, however, an annual football match between players from each faction held at Wilson's Playing Fields.

WillowTheWhisp 19-01-2007 22:34

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Mad isn't it Bazf?! :D When I worked at the bank there I had a colleague who was a bottom ender. She was most adamant that they never socialised with the top enders! She obviously wasn't a footballer.:D

Ber999T 20-01-2007 02:45

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When I worked on the buses they used to run (mostly on market days) buses the Load Of Mischief from Accrington just to cater for the number of people that travelled to/from the area.

There used to be a brick built shelter on Blackburn Rd just round the corner from the pub that the Ribble Buses used on the Burnley to Blackburn run.

The LoM buses from Accrington went along Atlas St from Church Lane and turned into Blackburn Rd to head back to Accrington.

Can't recall bank being on an island though.

Lolly 20-01-2007 02:55

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I was showing my Mum the photos of the Accy buses before this thread came on and when I showed her this.....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...83/Pim0004.jpg

She said that this bus, as far as she can remember ran from New Lane, as the bus says, to the Load of Mischief. Strange name for a pub, although probably not that unusual in Accy!! Lol!

Ianto.W. 20-01-2007 10:10

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Lolly, She said that this bus, as far as she can remember ran from New Lane, as the bus says, to the Load of Mischief. Strange name for a pub, although probably not that unusual in Accy!! Lol!
There was also a bus that ran to a place called Bedlam, yes with the name written on the destination board.

Ernie 20-01-2007 10:41

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By gum Bernard thats too much information mate, thar showin thi age theer. Buses like the one in the picture ran from New Lane to the Forts Arms in Clayton and on Saturday buses used to run from the Black Dog to the Load Of Mischief anternately with the service buses in order to provide a 6 minute service along the route from Oswaldtwistle Black Dog to the Load Of Mischief.

joaner3 21-01-2007 03:36

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I think they knocked it down in the early seventies. I used to go to Night School in Rishton and we'd changed buses at that corner. Then catch the bus to go into Accy.

sparhawk 23-01-2007 12:43

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definitely not early seventies, closer to the other end of the decade. I lived a couple of streets away and used to hang around with the daughter of the landlord, cant remember her name now. Motorway was built '82-'83ish but it was closed for a while before that.

I was asked for directions to the load of mischief a few months ago, he'd been up and down Whalley road looking for it :)

cashman 23-01-2007 13:16

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think sparhawks nearer the mark with end of the decade - mid to end is what i was thinking.

WillowTheWhisp 23-01-2007 14:09

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Originally Posted by Ber999T (Post 371219)

Can't recall bank being on an island though.

It was when they were excavating the motorway. Whalley Rd was closed off because they dug the middle out first in the area which is now a bridge. The road was diverted round the hole but also diverted round the NatWest bank - it used to be quite fun popping up there from the old TSB. We predicted that the bank wouldn't last long because they would lose custom as you took your life in your hands just to get to it. What we never predicted was that the TSB would be closed down too before long despite the fact that it was a very busy little branch.

I wish I could find the old photos I took when the digging was going on - they are around here somewhere.

AccyMad 23-01-2007 14:59

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 371146)
Mad isn't it Bazf?! :D When I worked at the bank there I had a colleague who was a bottom ender. She was most adamant that they never socialised with the top enders! She obviously wasn't a footballer.:D

Willow, I think the colleague you mention must have been my sister, she worked at the TSB in Clayton from leaving school right up to when she left to have her son in 1983. She may not have been too much into football then but she's certainly made up for it since :rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 23-01-2007 15:01

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Crikey! Did she stay at the one branch all the time?

AccyMad 23-01-2007 15:09

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Oh yes, it was only after she went back after her maternity leave that she got shifted about a lot, Ossy, Accrington & various branches in Blackburn. She only left 2 or 3 years ago after an accident at the bank.

WillowTheWhisp 23-01-2007 15:11

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ooh accident at the bank????? :eek:

AccyMad 23-01-2007 15:16

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Yea the safe door slammed onto her back, left her in a bit of state for quite a while - no compo though, they managed to worm their way out of it, so she then took her redundancy, think she'd had enough by then

WillowTheWhisp 23-01-2007 16:15

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 373178)
no compo though,

That really doesn't surprise me. Wouldn't the union help?

Alan Gilmartin 29-01-2007 10:03

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Well, I thought my eyes were playing tricks, because I lived at number 19 Blackburn Rd, Clayton, where the house used to be a Police Station and after that it was a fish & chip shop. we moved 1969. The bus stop outside The Load, was A Ribble stop to Blackburn, on the opposite corner, it was Hodsons furniture shop. There was the Load of Mischief pub, then west's Gararge, then the Cinema, first the Star, then the Carlton, Star Ally ran down the side, then there was a butchers shop, a green grocers, & a Dry cleaners, then Clayton St. I can go onto the next block, and so on . By the way there was a large stone set in number 19, with Police Station & the coat of arms on it. the bus from Accrington stoped outside the Coop Butchers, on the other side of the lights on Whalley Road.

entwisi 29-01-2007 10:40

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 371146)
Mad isn't it Bazf?! :D When I worked at the bank there I had a colleague who was a bottom ender. She was most adamant that they never socialised with the top enders! She obviously wasn't a footballer.:D

heh, My dad was born(and lived) on Alexandra Street, my mum lived on William St.

so much for not socialising :D

steeljack 29-01-2007 13:28

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 376217)
Well, I thought my eyes were playing tricks, because I lived at number 19 Blackburn Rd, Clayton, where the house used to be a Police Station and after that it was a fish & chip shop. we moved 1969. The bus stop outside The Load, was A Ribble stop to Blackburn, on the opposite corner, it was Hodsons furniture shop. There was the Load of Mischief pub, then west's Gararge, then the Cinema, first the Star, then the Carlton, Star Ally ran down the side, then there was a butchers shop, a green grocers, & a Dry cleaners, then Clayton St. I can go onto the next block, and so on . By the way there was a large stone set in number 19, with Police Station & the coat of arms on it. the bus from Accrington stoped outside the Coop Butchers, on the other side of the lights on Whalley Road.

So did Clayton have 2 police stations at one time ? I seem to remember the police station being about 1/2 way up the hill to the canal on the right hand side .
:D :D

Alan Gilmartin 30-01-2007 07:40

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Your right, Steely , our house was a p/s a long time befor that one on Whalley Rd, is that still a police Station,

AccyMad 30-01-2007 09:53

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No Alan, the old police station on Whalley Road was turned into an old people's residential home, not sure if it still is one though

leahjones 17-11-2009 21:29

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my grandparents were living and working in the load of mischief when it shut down. so when i read this i decided to ask my nana who said it was shut down on the 19th january 1980 which makes it 30 years ago this january :) sadly the landlord my grandad derek thompson died four years ago x

katex 17-11-2009 21:54

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Your right, Steely , our house was a p/s a long time befor that one on Whalley Rd, is that still a police Station,

Was this your house Alan .. taken last year ? It was a police station I think. Don't remember it being a fish and chip shop though ... :confused:

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katex 17-11-2009 21:58

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Originally Posted by leahjones (Post 763559)
my grandparents were living and working in the load of mischief when it shut down. so when i read this i decided to ask my nana who said it was shut down on the 19th january 1980 which makes it 30 years ago this january :) sadly the landlord my grandad derek thompson died four years ago x

Yes, 1980 Leah ... lots of photographs in local history books ... should get hold of them .. interesting history surrounds this pub.

steeljack 17-11-2009 22:09

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Where were the Clayton UDC offices,? can remember the council 'yard' near the canal but have no memory of the offices :confused:

katex 17-11-2009 22:20

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 763576)
Where were the Clayton UDC offices,? can remember the council 'yard' near the canal but have no memory of the offices :confused:

I think these were just past the canal bridge, going up on the right Steeljack ... well, according to a book I have in front of me now.:D Demolished in 1977.

Marikins 26-08-2017 22:27

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 371222)
I was showing my Mum the photos of the Accy buses before this thread came on and when I showed her this.....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...83/Pim0004.jpg

She said that this bus, as far as she can remember ran from New Lane, as the bus says, to the Load of Mischief. Strange name for a pub, although probably not that unusual in Accy!! Lol!

My grandad use to go in Load of Mischief, well over 100 years ago, when he was a young man ,and I remember him telling me that there was a painting of a man with a woman on his back piggy back style, and that was why it was called a Load of Mischief.

cashman 27-08-2017 07:32

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Originally Posted by Marikins (Post 1200406)
My grandad use to go in Load of Mischief, well over 100 years ago, when he was a young man ,and I remember him telling me that there was a painting of a man with a woman on his back piggy back style, and that was why it was called a Load of Mischief.

Never heard that one,but ta for telling us.:)always wondered cos ive "Never" seen another pub with that name.

Margaret Pilkington 27-08-2017 08:48

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Originally Posted by Marikins (Post 1200406)
My grandad use to go in Load of Mischief, well over 100 years ago, when he was a young man ,and I remember him telling me that there was a painting of a man with a woman on his back piggy back style, and that was why it was called a Load of Mischief.

Not only did the sign have a depiction of a man carrying a woman on his back, but it also had a monkey to the side of him...like that had been on his back too.
Certainly that is my memory of it and I did a search and true enough, the monkey was there.

I never saw another pub by that name but a search shows the there were other pubs by a similar name...The Man with a Load of Mischief.
Maybe that was what the Load of Mischief was originally, but the locals (over the years) shortened it so the brewery(Thwaites) called it that.

When I got married in 1966, this was our local.
It was a thriving pub and a place that was good to be for hearing about the daily doings of Clayton.
I was sad when it closed to make way for the motorway.

ferret man 27-08-2017 11:46

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Originally Posted by Bazf (Post 371055)
Traditionally Clayton-le-Moors was always considered to be a town of two halves. You were either a 'top-ender' or a 'bottom-ender' - depending on which side of the Load O'Mischief pub you lived on. The two had definite opinions about each other and rarely mixed socially. There was, however, an annual football match between players from each faction held at Wilson's Playing Fields.

You were a bottom-ender if you lived over the canal bridge.

ferret man 27-08-2017 12:14

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 376217)
Well, I thought my eyes were playing tricks, because I lived at number 19 Blackburn Rd, Clayton, where the house used to be a Police Station and after that it was a fish & chip shop. we moved 1969. The bus stop outside The Load, was A Ribble stop to Blackburn, on the opposite corner, it was Hodsons furniture shop. There was the Load of Mischief pub, then west's Gararge, then the Cinema, first the Star, then the Carlton, Star Ally ran down the side, then there was a butchers shop, a green grocers, & a Dry cleaners, then Clayton St. I can go onto the next block, and so on . By the way there was a large stone set in number 19, with Police Station & the coat of arms on it. the bus from Accrington stoped outside the Coop Butchers, on the other side of the lights on Whalley Road.

The butchers next to the star was Joe Simpsons the grocers Irene Stanworths cant remember the name of the person from the dry cleaners just remember she was a nice blond women.Also remember the butchers over the road where the bus stopped was run by big Vinney (Vincent) before the coop.

ferret man 27-08-2017 12:33

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Originally Posted by joaner3 (Post 371794)
I think they knocked it down in the early seventies. I used to go to Night School in Rishton and we'd changed buses at that corner. Then catch the bus to go into Accy.

I think it came down late 70s early 80s. Just before the motorway opened 82ish they had a 10k road race from Burnley which was won by a friend of mine, also in that race was a guy from Burnley Tommy? who ran with a bag of cement on his back.

pwho 16-02-2024 19:13

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 376217)
Well, I thought my eyes were playing tricks, because I lived at number 19 Blackburn Rd, Clayton, where the house used to be a Police Station and after that it was a fish & chip shop. we moved 1969. The bus stop outside The Load, was A Ribble stop to Blackburn, on the opposite corner, it was Hodsons furniture shop. There was the Load of Mischief pub, then west's Gararge, then the Cinema, first the Star, then the Carlton, Star Ally ran down the side, then there was a butchers shop, a green grocers, & a Dry cleaners, then Clayton St. I can go onto the next block, and so on . By the way there was a large stone set in number 19, with Police Station & the coat of arms on it. the bus from Accrington stoped outside the Coop Butchers, on the other side of the lights on Whalley Road.

You mentioned west's garage. I have been trying to find information on that.
My wifes uncle was a owner / mechanic in the early days, also reported as running the first taxi in clayton.
any ideas on history


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