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:(Jobs are going to be lost in Baxenden. Holland's Pies are going to be made in Ireland!!!

How could they? How can you have an IMPORTED Holland's Pie??:confused:

Commiserations to all those who will be made redundant as a result of this.:(

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WHAT!

that's sacrilege. i've heard of outsourcing but that's preposterous. how can they.

pies will never be the same again.

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how may jobs to be lost? are they shutting teh whole thing or just moving some of it?

I must admit I always thought up there was a job for life type place

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:eek: That is a disaster for the area!!

Any more information on the situation willow?

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Right, boycott Hollands pies!!!

Sign up below if you won't eat another Hollands pie

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Do puddings count? :)

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50 jobs? Although any job loss is bad it sounds a low number? There's more than 50 people work there, it must only be one section of it being moved to Ireland?

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bear in mind that (i believe) a lot of their staff are agency staff and so are not included in the staff loss count

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good riddance, i know a few people who have worked there and i wouldnt give a holllands pie to a stray dog

let them go

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Well they will be keeping some local connection. They are shirt sponsors for Burnley next season.

I got the impression from the news it's partial shift not full closedown.

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Disgraceful. That's money which could be going towards their LOCAL football league club. I'll definitely boycott 'em for that reason alone.

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Never been a big fan of Hollands pies, prefer Bessie Greens but feel sorry for the job losses.

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Maybe the sponsorship is offset by the contract for supply. :)

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Holands pies is full of polish anyway, I hope its them that are out the door first.

Agree with you Chav, I wouldnt give a Hollands pie to a stray dog either.

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Even if it is, there is such a thing as local loyalty, although Holland's obviously don't show it, either to their employees or to their football club!

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Are they? I always thought they tasted a bit strange!

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PMSL I love the wit on wit site.:D :D :D

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theoreticaly it would be better sense to stay wher ethey are seeing as we have never had a potato fammine :D

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Hi just to clarify,provided by Radio Lancashire.

Fifty jobs could go at the famous Holland's pie factory in Lancashire. Parent company Northern Foods plans to transfer production of some of its pastry products to a site in the Republic of Ireland.
The company has said it understands it will cause concern for workers but added that production of pies at their Baxenden base would be unaffected.
Holland's was founded in Haslingden more than 150 years ago and became part of Northern Foods in 1979.
'Future innovation'
The company employs 550 people and produces around one and a half million pies each week.
An announcement was made on Wednesday that Holland's was proposing to transfer the jobs to Portumna in the Republic of Ireland.
Simon Clarke, business unit director for Holland's, said: "The proposal we are announcing supports our own future growth plans for Holland's Pies.
"It also enables us to offer customers a wider range of products and innovation for the future.
"We understand that today's announcement is likely to cause concern for those potentially affected and their families and we will make every effort to support those employees.
"We have already begun the consultation process with employee representatives."

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Typical Dingles - umpteen years behind the Stanley, about 13 or 14 years since they sponsored us I think) :)

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Now I've seen it all :D

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What was said about it being mainly polish people is true........agency and polish people mainly work there, same as everywhere else in this country really.



Oh and least we can eat a pie without worrying if Mrs.Bagum is in any of them :D:D

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if they did move to ireland at least we would only have to wory if a race horse went missing like shergar or somthing

i realy do believe some of that womans body was disposed of at holland pies and the information not given out because it would have destroyed the firm

but you know me and my conspiracy theories ;)

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Well I don't eat many Hollands pie's......but if I did eat any of her! she tasted ok :D

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The cynic in me says that they willmove some of the production to the R o I and then 18 months down the line the whole lot will go.

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jobs are safe sounds rather much like when they say a football team manager has the full support of teh board dosnt it ?

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This is one thing that annoys me, express gifts is the same, why cant they hire local people. Well Greed Answers that question.

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That be people unwilling to work for the NMW or the company paying cheep to maximise profit?

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express gifts cant get local people to work there because over the years thay have managed to pi** of almost every person in accrington eligable to work

it is teh most shabbiest run company i have ever had teh displeasure of stepping foot in to .


i know one person who was sacked for not looking interested in his job lol

cant see anyone disagreing with me on this one , unless of course they were management :rolleyes:


i would normaly put it down to people not wanting to work but i cant honestly blame anyone for staying on income support rather than go there

imigrants dont know its reputation until its too late

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Company Paying Cheap to maximise profit,

Plus they probalby can get away with more.

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:eek::eek::eek: did you headbutt him Chav??

and if not!! why not?





Ginger once had a right good argument with one of the foreman and he was only there 2 days lol.

He was working on the beer department! and some asian lads were nicking the ale...............they blamed it on Ginger so all hell kicked off lol

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not only did they destroy dill hall lane to accomodate this place but they also provided teh worst eyesore in accrington and basicly one huge steel tin of misery :rolleyes:


opps looks more like a bitch about express gifts thread now rather than holland pies

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HMMM I just thought that lol





anyway Hollands pie............................... is that the firm that makes pies??

:D:D

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used to love Hollands Pies.many years ago they had SOLID food in em, now they are full of mush,so that maybe explains the move? they can fill em from the bogs.:D as for express chav only disagree on 1 point, some people who used to work annualy at that dump are Dipsticks (my nephew) being one,it was the only sort of job he could get. he has been there a few years seasonally- not any more,hes the wrong race now.i.e.NOT POLISH.

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wonder if a can get yanik a job there or Janik as his family call him


oops i cant hes been killed off :(

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Yeah i think Yanik would have been well suited there ;)

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you aint up to speed chav,Janiks the line manager.:D

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I read it that way at first too :D

Wasn't Dill Hall Lane destroyed when they created Dunkenhalgh Way to link up to the motorway? :confused:


Anyway, back to the plot - how can they say this won't affect production at Bash when they've already said 50 jobs will go?

I agree about the meat content though. A Holland's pie is not what it used to be.

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i was only a nipper but i thought both co-icided as part of the big masterplan ie: build bypass and easier access for delivery waggons etc

i remember waggons having to reverse up dill hall lane because it was so steep

but i may be wrong:o

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feel sorry for them

but the cheese and onion pie is simply the best ever

and the butter pie

just tooo yummy

mite go and get one now...

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Can someone please explain the Mrs. Bagum comments to this out of touch ex-Basher? I'm very sorry to hear of the move and as someone posted earler, it is often the thin end of the wedge when something like this happens.

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it was also mentioned that one of the brothers worked at Hollands, that is missing from teh observer link.

The usual conspiracies, shes in teh kebabs and some in teh meat and potato pies

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when teh rumours started i asked a former employee i know if it could have been possible for somone to dispose of body parts at hollands pies and the reply was that anything could have happened at that place .

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It's a horrible thought isn't it? :eek:

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Ahhhh...the best pies in Lancs? (a take-off on Sweeney Todd!)

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If I find any dodgy bits in mi puds I know were to start looking.
;)

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and i leave 5 mins away from there!!!! Hollands pies it used to be families that worked there - now its not. I wonder does this mean less vans going out between 5 & 5.30am? By the way did you know Hollands also make Lasagne and spaghetti bolognese? I used to do a yearly quiz night for the school to raise money in the pub and i sent my begging letters out everywhere and anyway Hollands pies rang me up asking what did i want them to donate. I just said i'd have anything they had that was suitable for a prize for a raffle and they said they'd have some stuff waiting for me at reception the following day. So the following day goes up there and there was 2 carrier bags - one with 3 dinky toys hollands vans and a bottle of wine, the other had 2 catering size lasagnes in! I sold the lasagnes for £5 each!!! lol

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I wouldn't think so Jen, robably more as they will be bringing them in in artics for distribution round teh NW

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We get them anyway entwisi - think were i am!!!! end of the roundabout - bash chemicals and hollands and macdonalds and shell garage!! Dont need anymore!!
The lorries taking the wrong turning off the motorway and cant turn round!!!

We get enough we dont need anymore!

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One thing you can bet on, there will be some EEC cash on offer to create a few jobs, these products are I am led to believe are frozen unbaked variety usually destined for supermarkets. Regardless of the double talk put out by Hollands (pro) people, if they could deliver fresh products to shops, chippies and the like they would move the lot for a bit of free cash. Northern Foods don't give two hoots who or where they make their products, look what they did to the bakery in Manchester. Thank the Lord for the Irish Sea otherwise your pie from chippy would come from 'over there'. Large companies follow 'subsidies and grants, free rate and rent for 10 years and then move on,' This shower are no different than the rest of the asset strippers that now control so called business.

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They do make them frozen ian but they also make them fresh because they are the ones that go out on the vans every morning. Mum used to buy them off the vans in the morning when she was going to the shop.

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The missus works at Hollands & doesn't know if her job is safe as they are making employees redundant on some kind of points system:confused: She should know by the end of Feb.Tey've recently been working 24/7 to get an order out for Asda,so its come as a bit of a shock.She reckons it won't be the end of it.Has anyone seen they're "proper pies" range?If they spent a bit less on all the fancy packaging they might not be in this position.

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Oh my!! Thank you, I think!!

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hmmmmm

how did he cut it AFTER he disolved it , wouldnt that be like trying to cut and asprin in half after its disolved in the glass of water ?


ps:

this story makes you think twice about those bits of grizzle you find in hollands pies dosnt it ;)


with that thought in mind enjoy your chippy tea folks :D

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probably cos it dont dissolve the bones chav, there buggars to get rid of.:D

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Not to beat a dead horse (or in this case eat one), but could one of you kind folks describe one of these Holland Pie's (-Mrs. Begums please).

Also have never heard of a butter pie. Sounds like I have more taste testing to do if I make it back this spring. As a comparison are these pies better or worse than blackpudding and/or haggis?

Brian

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Brian,sorry mate but they're crap.Best pies for miles around back in the 60's /70's,but now just mass produced mush...with no seasoning:eek: I am not doing myself any favours here.Anyway,they're making staff redundant but the job centre are still advertising for temp staff/agency workers for production lines........another Express Gifts:confused:

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A mrs Begum pie, it was alleged that two men who murdered their mother in law, put her remains in either pies or kebabs, as they ran a kebab shop owned by Mrs Begum, and one of the murderers worked on a meat mincer at Hollands Pies, so conclusions have been drawn. A Butter pie is a cheap vesion of a meat and potato pie, potato mixed with a bit of butter instead of meat. Black puddings and Haggis are an aquired taste no comparison can be drawn with a pie. Hope your a little wiser now Brian, if not ask away.Regards Ian.

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i heard senator was becoming like that at one point

another local buisness goin down the swanny just to save having to pay holiday pay etc

there shoud be rules stating that a company can only use temps to cover a set amount of hours , if there is enough hours to create a full time job then a full time job shoudl be on offer

it annoys me to see people get made redundant and then have 2 temps replace the worker just to save sick pay , holiday pay etc


i will give senator some credit as much as it pains me to do so but if a temp is good at their work there is quite often a job offered

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Black puddings are made from blood mixed with cereal and other (secret) ingredients Brian, they are then shoved in an animal intestine 'like a sausage', Haggiss again is semi secret usual ingredients are sheep intestines,liver,kidney, heart etc mixed with bran or oats (no doubt our Scotish members will correct me) shoved into a sheeps stomach, usually eaten down here on Burns Night. Yuck.

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I don't know what they put in them up there,but with the missus being from north of the border i've tasted afew & it's like eating grit & they insist on frying them(like everything else).:( Boil me one from Bury anytime;)

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BLACK PUDDINGS

2 litres blood
Casings, beef runners of large hog casings (optional)
3 onions, finely chopped
1 kg of suet or diced pork fat (back fat or bacon fat)
500ml double cream
500g oatmeal, soaked overnight in water)
500g barley, boiled in water for 30 minutes
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon mixed herbs or ground coriander
1 teaspoon black pepper or cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon ground mace


YUMMY with mustard!!

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....but i didnt know it was put in intestines!!:eek:

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Thanks for the explanation! (:D Although me Yorky cousin Ian I'd noted not to hear the Mrs. Begum story again as I'd read the "distastful," however intriguing, article!):D

While over there in July I did my ancestors proper remembrance by at least trying the haggis and black pudding while staying in Bradford. Must admit Ian, your description has the memory of it coming back to me with all its glory (I meant gory me thinks;) ).

For some reason I couldn't get Annie to try it. Must be her Mom's French Canadian, Native American, and Swamp Yankee side. She loved seeing the lands of our ancestors but would only partake of the fish and chips and Blackpool Rock!:p

Brian

Just read the delightful recipe panther. I must run out for the ingrediants. Hmm, where to find the liters of blood!

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Yes maxwell silver, Bury Black Puddings are the best in the world, you can buy them on Accy market so Brian can judge for himself, if he goes to Bury he will be able to eat them hot, as for Haggis it's not bad served with mashed turnips and swede, I wonder if the Irish will or do like Hollands pies? (trying to get back on thread.)

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You havent got two puncture marks in your neck have you Panther? Two litres of blood will make a good meal for a family of vampires never mind make a few Black Puddings.:D.

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Try all you like but i know where your coming from......haggiis with turnip & swede.....Mcbwwilliant:) :)

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All iv'e got left to say on this subject is, the Irish had better not get used to the idea of manufacturing Hollands pies, if things take their usual course it will be next stop China for Hollands.

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you made a mistake there willowthewhisp hollands pies are not in baxindon there in haslingdon if you look at the signs lol. just have to be frank.

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Holland's delivery vans are marked Holland's Pies Baxenden, and so is there postal address just to be frank:rolleyes:

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Hiya Frank, welcome to accyweb :D:D:D

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They are at Rising Bridge on the border next to what was Baxenden Station. Not in Haslingden ....

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Good job too.....If they were made in Haslingden they would'nt sell any? :cool::hidewall::D

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The thing is they have been probably planning this for a while, probably thats why they only take agency staff on.maybe they got tempted by a big grant off the eec or the local council in ireland got the grant to build the place..dont want to be alarmist but this sounds like the beginning of the end ...

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just to clarify as a postman in the acrington are that anything from the little shef down are classed as accrington district

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When did they slip that one in?Thought it was Hyndburn:confused:

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18 months down the line now :)

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Can't see the business sense in moving production to Ireland...they will have to be transported back over here,Holland's pies are a regional product, like for Northeners.
I suppose they may sell a fair amount of potato pies in Ireland cos the Paddy's love spuds!

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Oh do they now??:p

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Yep Bernadette.. they love spuds and Guinness.. I'm pretty sure they invented both :)

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Grant you the guinness my dad rest his soul loved the stuff as to many other Irish men. As for spuds the Irish staple diet boiled potatoes, roast potatoes, mashed potatoes and chips:eek:

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Add a sprig of parsley for dressing!:D

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Good luck Willow.. it's all rainbows and sunshine for you !.. i suppose if you are starvin you could always "whip off" a sheeps back leg and make some hotpot.
but .. alas,we mortal beings rely on minced beef from Asda's. a can of carrots, 98 pints of lager, and 2 oxo cubes!

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I think you will find this guy had something to do with the potato but he did not INVENT the potato he brought it back from his exploring:D


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