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This is because I read the "Mosquito" thread and Sara's answer and it reminded me of what bugged me outright when in Accy. Last week I was daft enough to catch the bus to Huncoat when the "hoolies" were on it and was in utter disgust at their behavior. These teens are all on the seats while OAP's HAD TO STAND.

At one time I am sure that a child had to surrender their seat to an adult as part of the conssesion to getting half fare. Whether this is still true I aint sure but to have these pensioners standing while they sit seems to be a disgrace and yet even when asked they wouldnt move nor even offer a seat because they wanted to be with their mates.

I used to think the worst thing in the world was a bad pint and cheeky kids but now its disrespectful to ther elders teens then the bad pint. Have we let standards of common decency fall that far or are these teens not taught common decency curtousy and manners anymore whether at school or home.

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kids like that spug would not know decency and respect if it slapped em in the kisser. on the rare occasions i use buses i would still give up me seat to the elderly, and i,m virtually a coffin dodger meself.

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Coffin dodger no gentleman yes.

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I was always told to stand if a pensioner got on and give them my seat if i was sat near the front - that was off my mum though not the bus driver.

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The issue isn't so much the kids now, its the parents of the kids who seem to have no desire to see their kids grow up with decent values and morals.

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At one time I am sure that a child had to surrender their seat to an adult as part of the conssesion to getting half fare. Whether this is still true I aint sure but to have these pensioners standing while they sit seems to be a disgrace and yet even when asked they wouldnt move nor even offer a seat because they wanted to be with their mates.
---------- thats the first i heard about that, but in days of old i would always give up my seat to elderly, women with shopping/ or pregnant. etc agree wholeheartheadly with entwi, its called UPBRINGING.

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The question is Cashy, when did the upbringing issue start to fail? Was it 2 generations back, 3/4??? was it the war(parents not coming back?)

I think the whole issue of social responsibility begs to be properly investigated so we know how to avoid making teh same mistakes again.

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Yeh i agree with the comments been made, sad in this day & age as manners cost nothing, something i do install in my own children, trouble with society today specially with the youth is that its a me, me & I society:(

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It was on the Hynburn Corperation buses. I remember that sign now. Just a pity there aint any anymore because for the pensioners sakes but its true what entwisi said "when did the upbringing issue start to fail?" Accymel has hit the nail on the head with the "me me & I society" as it sums it up to a "T" and we are worse of for it. It wouldnt suprise me if a smart alec decide some right of theirs was infringed and kicked up a stink.

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What's a Bus ? :rolleyes:

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What we will all be using when there are to many cars on the road or you are paying £2 a litre for petrol/deisil at the end of the year. :p :D

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That would have been in the days when all buses had a CONDUCTOR. I don’t think that it was an official policy though, just a directive from some conductors. In fact some adult passengers would shame a kid into giving up their seat even though the kid was a total stranger. It wouldn’t happen today. I remember a conductor telling me (not asking me) and other kids to give up their seat to an adult or pay the full fare. It was the same tale when we were having a crafty fag in the upper saloon. Words like, “Put that fag out or pay the full fare” would batter our tender earholes. The conductor would also make three kids occupy one double seat regardless of how full the bus happened to be.

Those notices would read something like this:
Seating Capacity 83
Upper saloon 45
Lower saloon 38
Lower saloon standing 7

The conductor would make people get off if there were more standing than was allowed.

Today with just the driver, that sort of control does not happen and the general public are wary of saying anything. As useful as CCTV might be it cannot stop irresponsible behaviour, only record it for possible future action.

I think that this lack of respect for elders started in the sixties.

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I'm sure the lack of respect/ manners is due to the ban on corporal punishment, also the fact that these children often dont have decent role models. In Cornwall last year, I was 7 months pregnant and visiting the Eden project, you have to catch a bus from the car parks, it was really busy, therefore no seats, not one person offered their seat to me, I was stood next to a family of 2 adults and 2 teenage kids (all on seats), I would have told one of my kids to get up and offer the seat but the adults just looked the other way, thought it was disgusting!

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my 10 year old has ALWAYS got up from his seat to let older people sit down, and thats without me ever having to tell him to do it......he'd even get up off his seat for you spugster...seen as your an older person ;)

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not meaning to be political on this, but i strongly believe the (i,m alright jack) society really kicked off in the 70s.

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Possible Cashy, though I was born in the 70's and brought up with manners and to respect your elders, early 80's things went downhill when the cane was banned, well it did at my school anyway.

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We left school in '92 and I know that us 3 girls (me, accymel and flashy) always had respect for our elders and would give up our seats on a bus.

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So what happened eh chuck :D

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I think you are being to polite Cashy.. I'm alright jack.. kicked off when Mrs Thatch proclaimed "there is no such thing as a community.. socialism is dead"
Her words not mine

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Whenever or whatever kicked it off its been a pain in the preverbial ever since. When the stage is reached were its ok for kids to say that they can basically do as the please because of the protection they have at the expense of the more vunerable in society then we need to have a good hard look at ourselves. How can we be civilised if even basic manners and considerations are out of the window.

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I like many others on here were brought up to respect my elders and give my seat up on the bus when required and i never needed telling...
I have brought mine up with the same respect and hopefully they will go on to bring theres up as and when the need occurs..

Although i do rem in the 80s when i had a 6 yr old and 2 toddlers with me and i had to go into accrington ,and there was a few kids on the bus and the only one to offer me some help and a seat were a pensioner ..... so yes even back then the youths were as ignorant as today...

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sorry mancie but its me background in the Diplomatic Corps, prevents me from being naughty.:D (knew someone else would say it) pmsl

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Now I wonder if this is the time to start instilling old fashioned values into kids instead of having them playing computer games and running aroud with their neebs. How many parents actually know how their beloved offspring are behaving when out roaming. I have taught my daughter the values I have and I get a inner glow when she uses them like some of you do.

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The elderly got gobby! :D

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Oh cricky they met Maggie Thatcher on a bus. Get these poor ladies therepy quick.

;) :D

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There would be hell to pay if either of my kids did not stand up on a bus for the elderly, expectant mothers, the disabled or anyone for that matter who needed a seat. They always have done and i hope they still do. But the number of times i have not had a thankyou from someone for letting them have my seat is getting higher and higher (especially the elderly). After all it doesn't cost anything to have good manners. Also if i am in a bus queue and there is an elderly person behind me i always let them go in front, especially if the bus is ready to set of. Because quite a lot of bus drivers seem to be getting ruder and not waiting for people to sit down before driving off, which really annoys me.

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Appologies Willow the Scots slang is kicking in already.

:o

A good friend or one of the gang

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and some of the drivers cant drive at all, like slamming there breaks on when you are getting off!! nearly fall on me bum!

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I've always stood up for the elderly on the Bus. Its just so drummed into me that a man around late 60's got on the bus once when I was 8 and a half month pregnant, and I automatically stood up, he laughed at me and told me to sit down. Its just what you do. Dont even get me started on the drivers. Not all of them, though there is a select few.

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buses?

Don't use em :D

Seriously, Last time I caught a bus was ~2 years ago to go to Manchester for my laser surgery checkup(Was told I shouldn't drive) and before that I have absolutely no recollection.

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Hang on cats land on all four paws.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :p

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Press the ding a ling and stay put till it stops. Mind you I have been on buses were they have set of before people are in their seat or even holding on.

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It is never to late to repair something that is wrong with society, it's up to the generation bringing their children up now, to try to put things right and instill some self disipline and good manners into the up coming next generation. By all means try to see where we/us went wrong, and try to learn from the mistakes that were made.

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There has to be a willingness to fix it but thanks to interference from certain quarters it wont happen.

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I was always taught good manners dont cost anything and have taught Lauren that. She even has the curtousy to thank the driver when she gets of a bus and the drivers to my eye appriciate it. Buses are a public domain and should have behavior on them that alludes to this but sadley too many consider it a playground or a gang area to do as they please. Good manners reflect on the parents as do bad manners so what people think of these kids parents must be that they are of the lowest kind.

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Im sure Im going to go on a slight thread wander here ,and apologies beforehand, but at the end of the day it does all boils down to the same thing..
The majority of our generation ie(35_ 50)were actually brought up with morals, dicipline and manors. the generation before us being brought up much stricter than us, but IMHO the way our younger generation are today ,ISNT , entirly down to the parents, but also the government becoming too soft and introducing all these stupid laws and making yougsters become too aware of how they can intimidate parents./adults /elders/ authorities
I was brought up with good manners and woe betide me if i didnt use them and i HAD to always respect my elders ,which i did without another thought , including thanking the bus driver .
But again the generation we have today are so god damn ignorant and clever to the extent they know full well they can disrespect ANYONE and no,one including the police can do a thing.
They go around with a cocksure attitude knowing full well that no one can touch them because the law is so well publicised the fact that it is a childs world and decent dicipline is a no no, so why shouldnt they take the mik , ? they know they can !!! until.adults start standing up for themselves (which is something im working on at the moment by the way)once again and start regaining adult and parent rights ..ie like stricter dicipline in schools and with the police , our next generation and the one after and after are going to turn into absolute tearaways.
Im not saying ...lets beat them to a pulp....but what i am saying is bring back the dicipline ..it wont do them any harm at all..

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I agree, bring back corporal punishment! Sack the PC brigade and make the country Great again!

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