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Gayle 11-02-2007 21:56

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 382300)

when, in fact, it's simply a theory from yourself - and a theory, I might add, that has not been raised in any other quarter from the senior ranks of the Labour party right through to the left-leaning papers like the Observer, Independent and Mirror.

Give it time and this will work out to Cameron's benefit. If the spin hasn't been there already (as you seem to believe) it will be soon!

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
As for living in a rose-coloured world, you certainly seem to be, as far as the Labour party is concerned. Why else would you wax indignant about tacky tactics by the Tories, when similarly tacky tactics have become the stock-in-trade of your party over the last ten years?

This thread isn't about Labour's tacky tactics. Start a thread on any specific ones and I'll give you my opinions. As I've said, no discrimination.

Plus, I hardly waxed indignent, I made one comment which as usual you jumped on to try and twist and prove that I am not as devoted a Labourite as you would want me to be - note: it's as devoted as you seem to want, not what I have ever said for myself.

Wynonie Harris 11-02-2007 22:23

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Well, if it is a Tory-inspired spin, then nobody seems to have told our Dave. I would have thought that to make the spin work in the way you imply, he'd should be taking an "OK, guys, I smoked a bit of draw, get over it." type stance, rather than appearing faintly embarrassed and evasive about the whole thing. I'll be watching this story with interest and if it does turn out to be Tory spin, I'll be the first to admit that you were right all along!

As for your opinions on Labour's tacky tactics, I seem to recall that I've raised a number of issues in the past and practically begged you to give us the benefit of your opinions, only to be met with a "I prefer to concentrate on local issues" type approach. Still, I'm sure the opportunity will arise again and when it does, I'll look forward to hearing your views.

grego 12-02-2007 08:46

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I dont think the fact that he's smoked a bit of wacky baccy should be held against him, wasn't it 25 years ago, surely its the person he is now that should be judged, not keen on him anyway but this revalation would not have affected my vote.

chav1 12-02-2007 11:20

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hang on a second when tony blair was running for leadership and trying to win teh young vote didnt it come out that he had smoked dope at college and then he went on radio one trying to be young and hip stating that he was once in a band

cameron is just a copy of blair , if teh tories ever wantto get into power they are going to have to come up with somthing better than a clone of blair

Mancie 12-02-2007 20:34

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The funny thing is I could understand him saying "no comment" if he did use cannabis... but he was asked a couple of years ago if he had taken cocaine and again he said "no comment"...no comment?...leaves the door open ...just say "NO" like the fat kid did in grange hill.

grego 12-02-2007 20:42

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 382699)
The funny thing is I could understand him saying "no comment" if he did use cannabis... but he was asked a couple of years ago if he had taken cocaine and again he said "no comment"...no comment?...leaves the door open ...just say "NO" like the fat kid did in grange hill.

I think "no comment" means yes:D

Sparkologist 12-02-2007 20:48

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 382389)
I dont think the fact that he's smoked a bit of wacky baccy should be held against him....

And rightly so. By the way, how are my gange plants coming along, in your conservatory? :rolleyes:

grego 12-02-2007 20:52

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 382709)
And rightly so. By the way, how are my gange plants coming along, in your conservatory? :rolleyes:

Not doing too bad, first crop will be ready shortly!:D

Mancie 13-02-2007 03:15

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having thought about this I'm not so sure the "I did it what the hell" attitude is the way to go... we may have done the same as Mr Cameron in our wilder days.. but would you now say to your son/daughter.. try it.. we all did and its just schoolboy stuff?.. young people do read papers and take in more than we realize.. if the next Prime Minister makes the excuse "I was 15 and a bit silly" what sort of message would we be putting out to the 15yr olds you lot like to lable as good for nothing chavs?... the man is a fake.. a sweet talking puppet who would not last 6 months as a tory prime minister... the REAL tories will have this muppet thrown out when it suits them!

SPUGGIE J 13-02-2007 06:31

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 382699)
The funny thing is I could understand him saying "no comment" if he did use cannabis... but he was asked a couple of years ago if he had taken cocaine and again he said "no comment"...no comment?...leaves the door open ...just say "NO" like the fat kid did in grange hill.

Maybe he tried a bit of everything and aint man enough to sdmit it in case it ruins his chances of being the 20th PM out of Eton.

Wynonie Harris 13-02-2007 07:34

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 382816)
the man is a fake.. a sweet talking puppet who would not last 6 months as a tory prime minister... the REAL tories will have this muppet thrown out when it suits them!

Ah, but will they? Power is the most addictive drug of all and if "Matey Dave" gets 'em into power, maybe they'll be prepared to tolerate him. After all, the present incumbent of No 10 is also a "fake" and a "sweet talking puppet" but the real Labourites haven't been in any hurry to throw him out!

bullseyebarb 13-02-2007 20:43

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 382086)
"Cameron The Rise of The New Conservative" by James Hanning and Francis Elliott.

Where's the evidence that Mr. Cameron is even a conservative? Most Tories these days seem pretty squishy to me.

chav1 13-02-2007 20:48

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 382838)
but the real Labourites haven't been in any hurry to throw him out!


ahh but tony sacked most of teh peopel that dared to disagree with him

dont forget that :)

SPUGGIE J 13-02-2007 20:53

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 383192)
ahh but tony sacked most of teh peopel that dared to disagree with him

dont forget that :)

Apart from one that is his nemisis dispite the pallie wallie act.


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