Road pricing by the mile – yes or no!
 

No doubt you will have heard about the No 10 petition against road pricing?

You can find it here http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/#content

Deadline to sign up by: 20 February 2007 – Signatures: 1,141,053

You have to input your full name, address and email address.

This petition has become so popular that you will have to try more than once to get your name registered – so don’t give in if your first attempt fails. Add your weight to the opposition to road pricing and all that it could bring. Not least of which is snooping on where you are going and when and in spite of denials, also how fast you travel to get there.

You will get an email (I’ve had three so far) with a link in it to confirm your email address. Again you may have to do it several times because the site is that busy.

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i dont drive but NO NO NO NO NO lol

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if you drive more then you use more petrol which means you pay more tax so baicly we are aready paying by teh mile

also what about disabled drivers who have no choice but to drive everywhere ?

just another excuse to bring in a tax and all in the name of saving the enviropment

i bet the dill jall circular spews out more pollution than my car does in a year

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Already Mentioned This.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=27494

A Defenate NO from me.

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As a high mileage driver it would make it near impossible for me to continue to work where I do if a scheme like this is introduced. However. we do need to be careful about what we do. Congestion at normal 'rush hour' is horrendous hence I travel at ungodly times of the day. I can do this as I work flexi time. If I had fixed hours then I could see it meaning spending even more time than i already do(~2.5 hoursa day). So we need investments in technology so that I can work from home, understanding employers so that we can travel at quieter times.

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I don't drive or use cars regularly so my opinion is probably misguided in this, but wouldn't implementing something like the Bundesautobahn decrease congestion more effectively than raising taxes/road charges?

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but that wouldn't raise money or "be seen to be green"

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Perhaps we could build it using some sort of EEC grant for green coloured tarmac? There was plenty of cash around a few years ago for the red tarmac to build the none ecological traffic calming and stupid stickee out traffic delaying, bus stops (how much fuel must be wasted by vehicles going nowhere behind buses at bus stops these days?) .

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Road charges, motorway toll's, most other countries use this system, those that use the motorways most pay most, also ban large vehicles off 'A' roads, unless delivering essential goods. Any realy large delivery vehicles, supermaket deliveries and the like in town and city done at night time as they do in London, or charge an inconvenience tax for daytime deliveries, this can be implimented by using a badge system, already in use in some cities.

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I no longer drive but if I did I wouldnt be up for paying. Make those with the big cars that do the school run only pay. Sorry had a few run in with these bams max trip 1 mile a day total. Take the car even when there is a bus or it 2mins walk away.

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Strangely enough I had never considered a non motorway route to work except last Thursday I had to pick my niece up from Urmston on the way home (She lives in France normally but is over and has been staying with us for a few days). Anyway, I set off from work and stuck the address I needed to get to into TomTom on my phone. I didn't check what route it gave me as I wasn't in a particular rush so I left it up to TT. I was rather surprised though as i got down the route a bit to see it directing me away from the motorway. In the end it took me a completely non motorway route to where I needed to be. From there I knew an easy route through Manchester to home. I reckon travelling at the time I do I could do the whole journey in about 80 mins compared to about 60 mins for a totally motorway route. I bet there would even be some optimisation i could do to it as well.

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Signed the petition about a week ago. Although I don't do many miles and mainly use the car for work, I believe that the excessive amount of tax that we pay for petrol is more than enough.

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I don't see why charging by the mile would lower congestion..even if drivers were charged a higher rate per mile at peak times ( e.g £1 per mile) if they only drive 4 miles a day to and from work then its still cheaper than public transport.
In London the congestion charge was brought in to deter from using cars and to switch to public transport.. 10's of millions of £'s have been raised to improve public transport.. but only a few weeks ago bus and tube fares had a massive increase (£2.00 for a bus ride or £4.50 for the tube even for only one stop)!

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NO we pay enough on rd tax, well some of us do!

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instead of crushing un taxed cars they shoudl be sold at auction if money is teh problem

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4 miles, I sodding wish!!!!

add a 5 infront of it and your thereabouts. and thats each way matey! :D

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I too think we pay enough tax already.

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Ok entwisi mate calm down :D.... I was thinking more about road entrance to inner cities and town centres were congestion is at its worst at peak times, that is what I thought the per mile policy was supposed to do.. lessen congestion.
If the policy is just something to deter drivers from using thier vehicles then its even more of a no no.

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iirc the quote was"we need to price people out of driving"

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If the British public transport wasn't on it's arse 24/7 I'd be all for pricing people out of driving, but it's just not practical or economical.

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Another nail in the Working Class Coffin, if this happens. NO.:mad:

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http://www.independent.co.uk/multime...07_242457a.jpg


You got to love it, 16 page motoring supplement inside.:D

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Interestingly, I have not heard any mention during this debate of whether the Road Fund License will be abolished as a result of the introduction of this wizzard new squeeze-the-tax-payer wheeze. One wonders just what plans the treasury have for the countless billions raised from this new scheme of taxation. Cynic that I am, I would wager that a lamentably small amount of it would find its way into road improvement schemes.

It has always struck me that if any government is desirous of persuading the public to abandon private transport (cars and the like) then it would make reasonably good sense to make the alternative, public transport, more affordable, attractive and responsive to the needs of the travelling public. Sadly however, as is usually the case with government, reason and good sense play second fiddle to the rapacity of the treasury and the generally profligate spending decisions of all levels of government. So we have the situation where private transport is seen as the only viable alternative to a system of public transport that was designed for the needs of the early 20th century; a system that is inefficient, uncomfortable, unresponsive and too bloody expensive.

I recall that some time ago London's buses proudly bore the legend that they were the "life blood of the city" A look along any of the main thoroughfares was enough to convince anyone that the city's arteries (to persue the analogy) were hardened and that London's buses were at the root cause of much of the congestion. How many times have you been stuck behind a bus which stops in the middle of the road to allow passengers to board and alight?

How many times have you been stuck in the rain and the cold waiting for a once an hour connection or train services that have been cancelled without warning? How many times have you been forced to endure the crass bad manners of fellow travellers on public transport? How many times have you been forced to endure the hell of travelling on a bus or train full of screaching school children or that other modern torture, the plonker who has to relate in minute and knicker-wettingly boring detail every aspect of their tedious day at full volume into a mobile phone? And how many times have you bridled at the amount of money you are expected to hand over for the dubious privelege of travelling in such conditions? Is it any wonder that people, generally vote with their feet and opt for the privacy, comfort and relative convenience of their own tranport.

The solution to the traffic problem is not more taxation, because faced with the current alternative most people would prefer to pay the tax rather than endure the alternative. The solution is to redesign the whole transport system, root and branch, to utilise to the maximum the differing characteristics of each mode of transport; road, rail, air and waterway and to invest in reasearch and development to improve all of it. Is there a political party prepared to espouse such a radical and all encompasing aproach to solving the problem? If there is, I have yet to come across one, but be assured that should I do so, they would have my immediate and unqualified support.

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The question of Road Tax seems to have been carefully avoided by the politicians. That means to me that only a portion of the Road Tax will be abolished and we will be taxed for having the nerve to actually own a car and then more tax to actually use it on the public highway.

Why don’t the government just admit that we peasants have got above our station in daring to own a car and they want to screw us back down again?

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I already pay by mileage - when i catch the bus!