I've seen the future...and it's canopied.
 

I returned to Glasgow this weekend. A place I lived for a while, a couple of years ago, but this was the first time I'd been back since the introduction of the smoking ban in public places.

As a smoker, I must say I wasn't particularly looking forward to standing out in the cold and wet, but I was pleasantly suprised.

The chi-chi boutique hotel suite, that was hired for my friends farewell bash, before they move to sunnier climes, had a balcony, so that was fine to indulge in a nicotine hit.

All the bars and clubs that I used to frequent, now have canopies, and heaters outside on the pavements. Some have tables, though you can't take your drinks out onto the street, unless there is a garden, so you tend not to stay out too long. However it is warm and dry whilst you have a cigarette.

Besides the trendy city centre bars, even the spit and sawdust pubs in the East End, that sell only pints of heavy and whisky, also seem to have adapted well, and have all provided dry areas outside to smoke.

The bars and clubs I revisted weren't as busy as I remember them, but even as a smoker the atmosphere inside was much more pleasant, because of the lack of smoke.

Another suprise of the changes was that at least three friends, who were life long, heavy smokers, have kicked the habit.

So in conclusion, something that I was dreading, isn't really going to be that bad.

As long as England also provides little shelters...to stop your fag being put out by the rain.

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....oh, and another benefit was I only smoked half as many cigarettes as I normally would on a night out.:)

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Yet anyone doing it the otherway thinks its heaven to spark up in the pub and double their intake.

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welcome back uncle rindy, hope you had a good time :D you've been missed x

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dont get too comfy garinda all the loony enviromentalists are trying to get outdoor heaters banned because apprently they are destroying teh ozone :rolleyes:

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The question must be, what is an enclosed public place? or whatever it is that the new law states.

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It's the space between a politicians ears :rolleyes:

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time to invest in patio heater and canopy companies :D

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Central Station in Glasgow is classed as a public space, and you can't smoke there, even though it is open to the elements, and the wind whistles through from all directions.

However, after sitting on the train for three hours, I lit up regardless. If challenged I was going to say I was a dumb tourist, who didn't understand the new rules.:D

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Bit of a pain and besides ignorence wouldnt help as its announced on the trains. At least they had a canopy and heater where you partied G. We have only one pub in Grangemouth and it aint my local. There are a few equiped as discribed in Falkirk.

Neil it is any four sided enclosed area used by the public. They tried it with bus shelters but as most are open at two ends and gaps at the roof they couldnt. Down to whether the smoke can escape.

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its like that in dublin when i went a couple of years ago patio heaters and canopies all outside. By the way i smoke and i liked it no smoking in the pubs.

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Not on my train they didn't, and there were no signs visible. It was only after I'd had my cigarette, whilst waiting for my friends, that they told me the station was classed an enclosed place, and therefore came under the no smoking in confined public spaces.

But by then it was too late, though I did put the stump in a bin.:)

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sounds like the jocks have it sussed! can,t really see canopys being put up-or lasting 2 mins if any are. :rolleyes: around here i meant to say.

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It sounds horrid. I'm planning to have my yearly visit to England in April this year so that I can avoid standing outside in the cold with my ciggie. Goodness knows what I'll do next year!

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Honestly, I thought the same about Glasgow, especially in the rough dives on the outskirts, but they are still there, and seem to work.

As said earlier, I thought it was going to be dreadful, and that I'd never want to go out again, but it ain't that bad.

Just a note about all the moaning minnies, who say they never go out to pubs/bars/clubs because they are too smokey...suprise, suprise they still don't go out!:p

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Don't hold your breath, rumour has it that a European ban will be brought in soon.

At least you will be warm.:p

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its happening now in Spain albeit slowly.;)

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I really can't see them trying to take the cigarettes off French women in the maternity wards in hospital though.:D

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We have a ban in public places here. It started on the first of January, 2006. No smoking in government departments, banks, shops etc. BUT....bars are different. Small bars can choose to allow smoking or not as long as they display a sign to show their preference. Middle sized bars have to provide a smoking area and large bars have a smoking ban.

Parents of young children are shown the sign when they enter 'smoking' bars.

We were dreading it when it was enforced but it hasn't made much of a difference to us. The only place we go to where we can't smoke is the ten-pin bowling alley and they have provided a place outside where we can sit with our ciggies.

It seems to work.

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Sounds much more civilised.

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it is lol sooner i,m back the better.

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as a doorman i'm dreadin when this comes out cause enforcing it will be a nightmare

whats stopping people skippin into the toilet or soem dark corner in the club

and if they do its gonna b constantly - can i just nip out for a cig?

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I think it'll be a good thing but I dont smoke, most of my friends do though so a nice canopied area sounds good.

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The Railway in Accy is getting geared up for the ban.At the back there is a wooden decking area with heaters.Iheard of a canopy going up,serving hatch & plasma screen bieng installed too.Someone told me of a bar in B'burn wich was doing something along similar lines,but i forget which one.Anyway,the ban wont affect me that much when it comes in in summer,i prefer to drink in the beer garden if the suns out:)

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The doormen marked your hand with a code, which was checked when you returned. It didn't seem too much hassle.

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When the smoking ban comes in will you still be able to smoke in the beer garden or will you still have to go to the smoking area?

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Question: Are Her Majesty's Prison exempt from the smoking law; after all the inmates don't get out much do they ? Are they classed as private dwellings/clubs etc ?

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They might have to go outside the same as everyone else as some do up hear.

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Well, will be finding out soon Spuggie, up Glasgow week Sunday, least got a hotel that has smoking rooms .. probably have to go outside at the Exibition Centre now though ... wonder if they have made provisions for us hopeless cases that will be on our feet all day, and need of sedation ?

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Several large whiskies will do the job. :D

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Have they stopped using the Glasgow Kiss for sedating people now ? :D

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Thats only for the guy's now.

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Just noticed .. Walmsley Arms have applied for an erection of slate roof timber frame, smoking area. Good business move. First of the many .. others will follow.. :thumbsup:

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Assume you can light up at will,it not bieng an enclosed space./Please correct me if anyone thinks i'm wrong.

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Well, seems you can by law maxwell, however, any landowner can specify what people do on their land, so up to the owners really. In other words, they could ask you not to smoke in their beer garden, even if in the open air, if they are that peevish.

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Why not do as the French have been doing and say 'f.....you' & light up regardless.Is'nt about time we stood up for our freedom to do as we please(within the already existing laws),is'nt this what our forefathers fought the wars for?.Freedom

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Yes, but the non smokers will then turn round and say they have the right to breathe clean air!:)

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I think it will be a bit of a shock to the system for many of the older drinkers. Some have sat in the same seat, in the same pub having a pint & a ciggie most of their lives.

We have an electric canopy at the Oaklea that can be retracted when its warm. We also have outside heaters.

:)

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I keep changing my mind, on one hand I like to have a qucik ciggie whilst working if its quiet, but then on the other hand when I came to clean up last night, and people had put ice in ashtrays that had melted and made all the ash mush (if you don't want ice then say so. lol.) and people have put in chewing gum (just wrap it in a bit of paper!! lol.) that makes me feel like I cant wait for it to happen. Its disgusting, yes I think it is even though I smoke myself! We do have a fantastic beer garden, which is alright for customers, not so good for me if i'm working. :D

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This is where the law really is an ass. You have made an enclosed space outside. How that can't be classed as enclosed I don't know.

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Hardly enclosed Neil, still plenty of fresh air blowing through there ... think 'shelters' have to have at least two open sides which this does have.

The Oaklea have made provision to let the sun shine through (hopefully in the Summer) by their electric roof. So will suit all customers .. very pleasant, hope to visit. :D

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Nice pic and looking good.

:D

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and they are more than welcome to go find some, funny how non smokers preach about clean air then jump in their cars ;)

personaly ime trying to give up ime all booked in at the smoking clinic but i have given up before and smoke in pubs didnt bother me and if it did i would go outside because pubs are expected to be smokey , the next thing people will complain about is the smell of beer in pubs :rolleyes:

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hehe sounds like your chattin him up spug-no offense x

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Just think when you cant smell cigarette amoke which usually overpowers what are you going to smell?? B.O!!!! Thats it!! My Mum went to Dublin and said it was disgusting because thats all you could smell!!!!

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lol and teh ban comes out in summer , best take a few cans of sure out with you or apeg on your nose :D

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumbim...6251wm3K26.jpg

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I showed it to the guys at work and they liked the pic and they reckonrd it was a good idea. I visited while down and I liked it and it does look good in the way that it is saying "I am here pay a visit you will enjoy" so no chatting up as I am not that way inclined.

No offence taken by the way (as its you) it happens. :p

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the oaklea will get my custom well done :banjump:

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My pub has quite a large beer garden, and we have quarter of it has a canopy over it. We are having heaters installed in the next few weeks.

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Ah but will there be bar service??

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There's an article about smoking canopies in today's Observer, as well as associated 'smoke speak'.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...ticle_continue


Can't wait to start smirting.:D

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Reads a bit like a panic article. They are right about the cowboys though as they are going to make a few bob out of the short cut takers. It has to be seen as stated as an investment for the future of the business. It cant be seen as an expense not worth worrying about. Pubs that dont have them up here are loosing custom because of it and are not gaurenteed to regain the lost custom if they belatedley decide to fit them.

Once it settles down it will be ok as it is starting in the summer.

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Think its July but not 100% sure.

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July 1st Grego .. a date stamped on my alveoli .. :(

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Just so long as it doesn't lead to any smighting! :eek:

That doesn't make a lot of sense! :confused:

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I think the June meet should definetly be on Saturday 30th of June.

It will be fun to see what happens at midnight, when the ban comes in.:D

I might be undercover that night as one of the 130,000 people being employed to catch smokers at it.;)

If only the government could find enough money to pay the wages of 130,000 home helps for the elderly instead, I'd feel a lot happier, and probably less inclined to smoke.:(

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Eeew hek, Garinda, probably will be won't it ? Never thought about that. :eek: Now ya' can ..(the clock strikes 12) .. now ya' can't.

Heard something about these spies on radio the other day, but was lunch and didn't hear much .. they were discussing heatedly .. is it going to be so ?

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29.5 million is to be spent on wages of undercover spies, to make sure the ban is carried out in pubs.

At a time when care for the elderly is being cut back all the time, that amount of money is a disgraceful.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6346435.stm?ls

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Hi, you lot,
We had the ban last year on June 1st. When midnight came everyone had to go out side. You can't smoke anywhere in Montreal, no pubs, restaurants, public places. So you see cig butts all over the streets. They have decided to put huge ash trays outside all the metro stations. I have to smoke outside at work, and when its 20 c below it gets pretty cold. I usually manage a quick couple of puffs then run back in.

The bars over here are trying to take it to court, its supposed to be a free country isn't it. There's some bars that have canopies outside and heaters which is not bad. But still some people complain out side on the terrace, so now they've split them up as "smoking" and "non smoking" sides, which I find ridiculous.