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mani	13-02-2007 16:38

Why isnt this man a terrorist?

now surely if this man was a muslim - he wud've been hung drawn and quartered by now for wanting to shoot blair and posessing explosive chemicals - surely he also should've been arrested under anti-terrorism legislation.

A former British National Party (BNP) candidate who held explosive chemicals in anticipation of a civil war wanted to shoot Tony Blair, a court heard.

Robert Cottage, 49, from Colne, Lancashire, pleaded guilty to possession of explosives at the start of his trial at Manchester Crown Court.

His wife said he often boasted of wanting to shoot Mr Blair and Lib Dem peer Lord Greaves, the court was told.

Mr Cottage denies conspiracy to cause an explosion.

A second man, David Jackson, 62, of Nelson, Lancashire, denies both charges under the Explosive Substances Act.

flashy

13-02-2007 16:42

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thats our government for ya though....pathetic

garinda

13-02-2007 17:20

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 383023)

now surely if this man was a muslim - he wud've been hung drawn and quartered by now

Don't get too carried away. Thankfully no one in Britain is hanged, drawn and quartered anymore.:D

The trial is continuing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1380013.ece

WillowTheWhisp

13-02-2007 17:28

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Sounds like a terrorist to me. Actually I don't understand why we have to have a separate label. Somebody wants to blow people up for whatever reason or shoot people or whatever then it's the same offence surely isn't it?

SPUGGIE J

13-02-2007 18:26

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Hell yes I would say he was terrorist.

I agree with Mani if he was muslim he would have been preverbially hung drawn and quarted by the press and Media.

Less	13-02-2007 19:04

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 383091)

Hell yes I would say he was terrorist.

I agree with Mani if he was muslim he would have been preverbially hung drawn and quarted by the press and Media.

Yes, he would, and your objection to that is..... (Only joking mani, anyone that knows me also know's that I say hanging is too good for them!).:eek:

By the way Spuggie come the revolution and you will be taken outside and stoned to death if you ever use the word,

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Hell

in a post again.

We liberals have a wonderful way with words! :)

SPUGGIE J

13-02-2007 19:14

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 383107)

Sorry Gabriel it wont happen again. I am allergic to getting stoned. :eek:;):D

tadah

13-02-2007 19:29

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 383023)

now surely if this man was a muslim - he wud've been hung drawn and quartered by now for wanting to shoot blair and posessing explosive chemicals - surely he also should've been arrested under anti-terrorism legislation.

A former British National Party (BNP) candidate who held explosive chemicals in anticipation of a civil war wanted to shoot Tony Blair, a court heard.

Robert Cottage, 49, from Colne, Lancashire, pleaded guilty to possession of explosives at the start of his trial at Manchester Crown Court.

His wife said he often boasted of wanting to shoot Mr Blair and Lib Dem peer Lord Greaves, the court was told.

Mr Cottage denies conspiracy to cause an explosion.

A second man, David Jackson, 62, of Nelson, Lancashire, denies both charges under the Explosive Substances Act.

That makes 90% of british people terrorists

chav1

13-02-2007 19:38

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i guess hes just an old fashioned british bomber :)

ahhh that takes me back before all ths terrorism crap we used to call people bombers but thats sooo 1980's now we got to call them terrorists

grego

13-02-2007 19:38

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I agree with you Mani, if this guy was a muslim, he would have been branded a terrorist.

chav1

13-02-2007 19:44

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the way i understand it which may or not be correct is that a terrorist is someone who uses terror to make a political standpoint and a bomber is somone who just likes blowing people up

he says he was stock piling because he freared civil war which would not put him in teh category of been a terrorist so until hes convicted of a terrorist act i dont think they will call him a terrorist

yep we all know his story is bollox but thats his explination and until teh case finishes we wont know what he is besides a facist waner ( pronounced with a loud K )

SPUGGIE J

13-02-2007 19:55

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Better watch all you lot who play war/violence games on computers or consoles or you might be accussed of practicing to be a terrorist. ;)

chav1

13-02-2007 20:28

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 383132)

Better watch all you lot who play war/violence games on computers or consoles or you might be accussed of practicing to be a terrorist. ;)

i tried that microsoft flight simulator and apart from crashing a plane into teh ground i wouldnt make a good terrorist at all :D

SPUGGIE J

13-02-2007 20:41

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 383163)

i tried that microsoft flight simulator and apart from crashing a plane into teh ground i wouldnt make a good terrorist at all :D

Better watch they dont try and make you the 22nd 911 terrorist based on that. :eek:

mani	13-02-2007 21:25

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spuggie

seriously

all i ever do now is play golf - tiger woods 2007

cud i be trying any harder not to be asian? *L*

chav1

13-02-2007 21:33

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 383228)

spuggie

seriously

all i ever do now is play golf - tiger woods 2007

cud i be trying any harder not to be asian? *L*

if i post a picture of a bucket of whitewash will it offend you ? :D

nah better not although you get the humour some might not :rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J

13-02-2007 21:35

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 383228)

spuggie

seriously

all i ever do now is play golf - tiger woods 2007

cud i be trying any harder not to be asian? *L*

No but you shouldnt have to. You are who you are and people should accept that. Its so easy because of a very minor group of people in any racial/religious communities to make it hard for the rest of that community. It happens in all these communities at some and sadly its yours that is suffering. In the 80's it was Irish catholics that were seen as all members of the IRA in some quarters though it was a minority that was responsible for the bombing killing and troubles.

garinda

13-02-2007 22:54

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 383091)

Hell yes I would say he was terrorist.

I agree with Mani if he was muslim he would have been preverbially hung drawn and quarted by the press and Media.

If he is convicted of these crimes, then yes I too would call him a terrorist.

However, I totally disagree that if he had been a Muslim he would have been treated any differently. There is admittedly anti-Islamic bias, both in the press, and in the public arena. But there is also the case were Muslim crimes are handled with kid gloves, so as not to offend, and appease the politically correct loby, which is present both in society in general, and the law of the land.

A good example of this would be the recent trial of the BNP's leader Nick Griffin on race hate crime charges, following undercover filming by the BBC. The charges came to light, and the Crown Prosecution Service took the case to trial. Griffin was found not guilty.

On the other hand we have the very similar story were Channel 4's Dispatches programme secretly filmed Muslim leaders, in British mosques, spouting similar hate filled rhetoric as Griffin did. No charges are to be brought against the people who were filmed coming out with racist, and homophobic garbage. The law of the land should be applicable to everyone, regardless of creed, or colour.

This man from Lancashire sounds like a total headcase, and he may or may not be found guilty of these crimes, but do not try to turn this into a case about racism, and how Muslims are a persecuted minority.

In my opinion there would be much less unrest in the country, if leaders of the Muslim faith condemed the extremists who are preaching hate and separatism in the name of Islam, from the comfort of a democratic country, Britain, and are being allowed to get away with it law.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/leg...icle342857.ece

http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=3074

cashman

13-02-2007 22:58

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 383023)

the only differance between him and me (and many more) is I think i would like to shoot blair,so maybe the secret service might think i should be locked up,this dipstick just went a stage further than us thinkers.but agree with your intial thing mani- if the guy was a muslim the press would have a field day.

mani	14-02-2007 01:05

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and you'd see tony blair or gordon brown sayin this proves that the islamic terrorist threat is real not only for the public but for politicians too hence we need these strict measures in the police force etc

grego

14-02-2007 07:10

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Both the guys being questioned look total headcases, but wasn't it his wife that informed the police, she must have been convinced that he was going to do something to do that!

WillowTheWhisp

14-02-2007 09:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 383262)

The law of the land should be applicable to everyone, regardless of creed, or colour.

I agree 100% with that. Everyone should be treated equally.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 383262)

In my opinion there would be much less unrest in the country, if leaders of the Muslim faith condemed the extremists who are preaching hate and separatism in the name of Islam, from the comfort of a democratic country, Britain, and are being allowed to get away with it law.

Yes, all peaceful people should be able to unite together against the hate filled extremists - a bit like that idea Gayle had which never got off the ground but it would be great if it could come from leaders.

Gayle

16-02-2007 20:28

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 383373)

Sorry, missed this - which idea was this?

WillowTheWhisp

16-02-2007 23:18

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That one where we were all going to get wristbands but it sort of fizzled out. I can't remember if you originally thought of it or if that was somebody else - but you were looking into it maybe from a funding point of view.

mani	17-02-2007 02:05

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wristbands are sooooooooooooooo last year!! :o

garinda

17-02-2007 09:44

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 384395)

I think it was Margaret Pilkington, wasn't it?

Gayle

18-02-2007 19:06

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Yes, I think it was Margaret's idea.

WillowTheWhisp

19-02-2007 07:01

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 384434)

I think it was Margaret Pilkington, wasn't it?

It must have been that Gayle was looking at the possibilty of getting a grant for it then - 'AccyWebbers against Terrorism'

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 384411)

wristbands are sooooooooooooooo last year!! :o

Well it was last year! :D

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