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TubbyLes

18-02-2007 18:09

Ban on Photos in Public

Some politician wants to ban taking photographs in Public places.To join the protest at the 10 Downing St. website go to

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Photography/

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chav1

18-02-2007 18:16

Re: Ban on Photos in Public

so we would only be able to take photos inside opur own houses ?

accymel

18-02-2007 18:25

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Do u know this country is absolutely pathetic talk about a nanny state, before long u wont be able to pee without express permission from some stupid beurocrat :angry:

SPUGGIE J

18-02-2007 18:31

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 384824)

Do u know this country is absolutely pathetic talk about a nanny state, before long u wont be able to pee without express permission from some stupid beurocrat :angry:

Well nappy sales will go up. :rolleyes:

The more they mess the worse their downfall will be. So if I take a photo of say Broadway I am gonna cop a load for it well err I dont think so its still a free country. Its about time these idiots did a proper job or put them on the dole.

entwisi

18-02-2007 18:32

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the general aim of this 'possible' legislation is to stop teh papparazzi type from invading privacy.

I find it strange to think that taking pictures outside will be illegal when probably 75% of the population are walking round with camera phones taking pictures left right and central. Then you get situations like car accidents. One of the best things you can do is take photos to prove the positioning of cars.

sounds like legislation that would be ignored as the Police would not be able to keep up with all the paperwork involved :D

Sparkologist

18-02-2007 18:36

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So does this mean that all the purveyors of CCTV will also be breaking the law.

This government is so far up it's own backside that it is in need of a Davey Lamp and a canary!

lancsdave

18-02-2007 18:37

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Permission to breathe Mr Blair please :mad:

chav1

18-02-2007 18:42

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so if rich and famous people moan enough they can get their own way ?

sory but if you dot like been in the public eye dont be famous

lancsdave

18-02-2007 18:46

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I suppose the one saving grace is that we won't have to see pictures of smug MP's kissing babies all over the papers every general election :)

K.S.H

18-02-2007 18:47

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Surely this will mean speed cameras will be illegal too, anyway they got to catch you 1st, they won't stop me going out with mine :)

accymel

18-02-2007 18:49

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They cant tackle proper crime so they are making up new ones for us law abiding citizens cos they cant catch proper criminals!!

chav1

18-02-2007 18:54

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 384858)

They cant tackle proper crime so they are making up new ones for us law abiding citizens cos they cant catch proper criminals!!

well its one way to reduce crime figures

make a stupid law thats easy to break and arrest as many peopel as possible

if i see a burgular and photograph him in teh act do i get arrested and sued by the burgular if i submit my photo to the police ?

SPUGGIE J

18-02-2007 18:57

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 384838)

So does this mean that all the purveyors of CCTV will also be breaking the law.

This government is so far up it's own backside that it is in need of a Davey Lamp and a canary!

The canary wont go it aint that daft it knows how bad the gas is.

accymel

18-02-2007 18:58

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 384865)

if i see a burgular and photograph him in teh act do i get arrested and sued by the burgular if i submit my photo to the police ?

LOL probably cos that would be easier & burgular would get off anyway:mad:

SPUGGIE J

18-02-2007 18:59

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 384872)

LOL probably cos that would be easier & burgular would get off anyway:mad:

Just goes to show how much faith we have in the law. Mabe there is another thread in that issue.

grego

18-02-2007 19:02

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Absolutely ridiculous the politicians are just trying to control everything, it makes no sense at all and would be impossible to police.

SPUGGIE J

18-02-2007 19:12

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Carrying on like this makes me wonder if its a demoratic dictatorship these power mad polititions want. :rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp

18-02-2007 20:45

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What an absolutely ridiculous idea. I tried the link but it was unavailable. I haven't actually seen the news story. Is this perhaps an exaggeration by the press or something which has been misquoted and taken out of context and then reported? I can't believe even our government can be so stupid as to try to make this law. Does this also go for photographing scenery?

shillelagh

18-02-2007 21:08

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How can you ban taking photo's in public? So if i go to London for the weekend then I cant take a photo of me standing in front of the tower of london or buckingham palace? That will kill of the tourist money wont it?

flashy

18-02-2007 21:08

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what a loada testicles, so we cant take pictures of the sky now can we?

WillowTheWhisp

18-02-2007 21:17

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Not much chance of getting a snapshot of Nessie in future then..........

cherokee

18-02-2007 21:31

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and omg:eek: !!!!!!!!!!!! how would we ever catch all those magic moments from the accyweb meets???????????..:D
something tells me this wont ever come to fruition:)

shillelagh

18-02-2007 21:34

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 385019)

Not much chance of getting a snapshot of Nessie in future then..........

more likely to catch spug trying to behave more normal than trying to photo nessie!!! :D :D :D

WillowTheWhisp

18-02-2007 22:39

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I've been looking into this in a little more detail and at present it appears that there are no actual proposals to make this law - just suggestions and ideas. It needs nipping in the bud before it gets any further.

THIS is a link to the current situation regarding photographer's rights in this country.

cashman

18-02-2007 23:42

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 385009)

better that than publishing em jen.:D

shillelagh

19-02-2007 00:56

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 385079)

better that than publishing em jen.:D

Depends cashy dearest - on what i was wearing standing outside there dont it?:D

junetta

19-02-2007 01:04

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So............if I manage to get back to Ossy in October, I won't be able to take a pic of my brother having a fag in the Stop!!

It gets worse.

WillowTheWhisp

19-02-2007 06:45

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It's not law. It's not even a proposed law yet as far as I can gather - it's some suggestions for a proposed law, so you should be OK in October. It's not going to gain the government any extra revenue so I can't see it being fast tracked.

I was thinking about this - you know how they've got those 'no cameras' signs in some places like the Tower of London and Accy Arndale? If you do the tour of Lancaster Castle they tell you that you must not take photos inside the Shire Hall because it is till a working court (Can't quite see the logic of that one when there isn't actually a court in sesion.) but then you go into the gifte shoppe and there are postcards with pics of the Shire Hall - sort of defeats the logic doesn't it?

entwisi

19-02-2007 08:29

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Willow, did you read tha PDF that you posted the link to (I posted the same link some time ago in another thread btw! :D ) Basically when on Private property they can restrict you in any way they want. If that is to make you 'buy' an official piccy then so be it.

The other thing to be wary of is that the link relates to teh law as at August 2004. Some time ago in this day and age so i wouldn't take it as total gospel without checking if there are any new developments or laws or changes to existing legislation e.g. data protection act

WillowTheWhisp

19-02-2007 11:42

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Unless a new law, which as far as I'm aware hasn't yet been formulated let alone proposed, is passed then no matter how old the existing law is, it still stands.

entwisi

19-02-2007 12:21

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but the problem is there isn't one single law(which is why this proposal has probably surfaced in teh first instance), its a hotch potch of bits of this and bits of that all of which are being updated with new amendments here there and everywhere.

panther

19-02-2007 12:28

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this country will be like judge dredd in a bit!!!
judge , jury and executioner!!!!!!!!!
Judges are empowered to arrest, sentence and even execute criminals on the spot.
wont be able to take a **** without permission either

WillowTheWhisp

19-02-2007 12:46

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The thing is what we don't want happening is a blanket ban on photography in public places because that is a nonsense. It would mean all those lovely photos of lakes and mountains on holiday would be illegal.

There's already restrictions on taking photos in Trafalgar Square but nobody seems to know about it and tourists do it in their droves. I've done it too, and not all that long ago. I think I've got one somewhere of Emz on a lion.

The court thing I can understand when there's a trial going on - similar to not taking photos in a church when there's a service going on but why you can't take them in the empty courtroom is beyond me. I can't see the logic behind the rules for the Arndale either. The reason they gave me was 'crime prevention' but you can photograph the front end of M&S from Broadway - how is that any different?

SPUGGIE J

19-02-2007 12:49

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Panther I hope this isnt a picture of the future. The law screws up enough as it is without that kind of justice. Imagine the outcome if you were innocent but had allready been "dealt with" and sentence carried out. I hope I am on my way to a better place before this happens.

entwisi

19-02-2007 13:03

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 385212)

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]The thing is what we don't want happening is a blanket ban on photography in public places because that is a nonsense. It would mean all those lovely photos of lakes and mountains on holiday would be illegal.

agree, clearly they couldn't do this as the tourist trade would disappear overnight.

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 385212)

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]
There's already restrictions on taking photos in Trafalgar Square but nobody seems to know about it and tourists do it in their droves. I've done it too, and not all that long ago. I think I've got one somewhere of Emz on a lion.

unlike you to post a link to something without reading it! :D, see the bit in the middle that says trafalgar square etc is out of bounds for business stuff but not tourism :D

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 385212)

The court thing I can understand when there's a trial going on - similar to not taking photos in a church when there's a service going on but why you can't take them in the empty courtroom is beyond me. I can't see the logic behind the rules for the Arndale either. The reason they gave me was 'crime prevention' but you can photograph the front end of M&S from Broadway - how is that any different?

You can take piccys during a service with permission of the vicar/priest etc, its a 'private place' and as such totally up to him. I take pictures during the christenings of services at St Johns for the families. The vicar is happy for me to do so.

WillowTheWhisp

19-02-2007 13:30

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I should have said you can't take photos in our church during the service - any kind of service - but you can set the scene up again afterwards and photograph that. Not sure what the general rules are for weddings and register signings but in our church they have to pose again afterwards and a wedding I photographed at the registry office they asked not to take photos during but to wait and set the scene up again afterwards.

Trafalgar Square is a funny one - I shall reread the references to that, but I have to go out now to catch a bus.

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