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Anyone else watch it last night on BBC2? Very interesting views and other opionions put forward with most of them making more sence than bush ever did. What do YOU think happened that day?

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:D here we go again...hang on don't tell me I'll quess!.. al qaeda is run by the C.I.A..Bush organized the whole thing (he can't even organize dressing himself)..it was all done so that the USA could invade Iraq...blah blah! :D

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what was it saying...didnt watch it, bloody missed it!

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I believe we will never get the real truth of this terrible act of violence/terrorism. The more they dig the more that dosnt make sense but then most things of this nature dont.

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The real truth?... terrorists carried out a well planned attack on the USA..the intelligent services were useless and made blaring mistakes, if they had been "intelligent" they may have prevented the attack but did not...there are loads of theories about who carried out the attack..there's even a docu film suggesting the plane that hit the pentagon never happend and all the passengers are being held captive to keep them quite!

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I wont watch any programmes like that. It was bad enough watching it on tv the first time round so why watch it again. And yes i do remember what and where i was when it was happening.

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Just reminded me i havent seen WTC film yet so that may be my afternoon viewing whilst recouperating :D

Yeh i remember where i was & doing at the time too, watching sky news in horror live!

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I wasnt watching it at first. My cousin and his wife had come over from Ireland and were visiting and we'd turned the radio off so didnt know what was happening. I went to pick my niece up from school and one of the grandma's was talking about it and i asked what was going on when she told me i couldnt believe it and when i got back home i came straight in and turned the tv on. We sat there and watched it and couldnt believe it. My niece went and played on the comp in the other room.

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LOl i dunno how i catch these things live, same with the july london bombings, i just happened to watch the news early & they just got a report of an electrical problem in the underground - then that was just the start of it watching that unfold.

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Waking The Dead took precedence so I didn’t watch that programme.

Like many people I watched on TV as the second plane smashed into the towers and also saw that footage of the first one going in. Similarly we saw the plane plough into the Pentagon, except that we didn’t see a plane even a fleeting glimpse of one. Why not? How come no one reported seeing a very low flying plane heading for the Pentagon after it happened?

There was no plane debris around the Pentagon so what does that say? The twin towers did collapse in a strange way and Fred Dibner would have been proud if he brought the towers down so cleanly. What does that say?

Can we deny that some people on the planes phoned their loved ones at home just before oblivion? Were they lying?

I doubt if we shall ever know the full and precise details of what happened at 9/11, as the Americans are past masters in keeping secrets secret and spreading or allowing to be spread rumours when it suits them. The stealth bomber was kept a secret for TEN YEARS. If they can do that then they can do anything.

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Same here mel - do you really want to know something strange - my cousin was here again - and it was my birthday 4 days later and he said he'd take me out for my tea!!!

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I watched the programme, and thought it was very balanced.

Most of the conspiracies were explained, and actual witnesses were interviewed, including the commercial pilot of the plane who they say must have shot down one of the planes, ansd relatives of Jewish victims, which dispelled the theory that it was all carried out by MOSAD, and that Jews were warned not to go to work that day.

If I was the relative of one of those killed this would upset me.

People can't seem to grasp that a handful of terrorists could inflict so much damage. They did, get over it.

The people at the forefront of the conspiracists seem as zealous as hicksville preachers, and to me just seem to want to make a name for themselves on the back of this tragedy.

When people don't understand why something has happened they always look for explanations elsewhere, be it in religion or conspiracy theories.

Sad, but human I suppose.

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There was, and the programme showed identifiable wreckage of an American Airline's plane, as well as interviewing people who saw the wreckage.

I suppose conspiracy theorists will just say it was planted, and the so called members of the public are government plants.:D

Like I said earlier, all quite sad.

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I never saw that debris footage garinda but then I haven’t followed the events post 9/11 other than what I came across casually.

On balance I prefer to believe what I saw live on TV. As for the rest, I keep an open mind.

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What unanswered questions? ...which building collapsed for no reason?..both buildings were hit by seperate planes crashing into them!...the twin towers were not demolished using explosives planted by anyone... the explosion of fuel from both planes was enough to bend the inner iron structure causing the floors to collapse onto the lower floors.

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there was another building that collapsed near to the towers and it just so happened to have a cia bunker in its basement


it wasnt hit by a plane infact it wasnt hit by anything it just collapsed for no wreason at all , well apart from teh demolition explosives used to demolish it which is the only explination for the building collapsing

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Ok this building

http://media.popularmechanics.com/im...11-wtc7-sm.jpg

FIRE STORM: WTC 7 stands amid the rubble of the recently collapsed Twin Towers. Damaged by falling debris, the building then endures a fire that rages for hours. Experts say this combination, not a demolition-style implosion, led to the roofline "kink" that signals WTC 7's progressive collapse.

Thats one answered question!..but a question for you ..why would the CIA blow up this building?

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I didn't watch it, but I can imagine it to be like the 1000's of other conspiracy videos such as Loose Change which are so full of inacuracies its unbelievable, but told in a way that will make the audience believe the crazy contraptions they call 'truth'.

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And to the prat that just sent me neg karma for my post on this subject... get a life coward and sign.

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you asked what building , i merely pointed out what they were talking about , thats probably the one but i wasnt realy paying much attention as it was only on while i was waiting for somthing better to watch

ive heard all the conspiracy theories behind this, some have credibility some dont , all i know is somthing aint right about it so theres probably more to this story that we will never know

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another conspiracy theory in teh making

i say blair did it :)

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:D or could be the CIA.. I've heard they monitor Accy Web forums!

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start talking about bombing parliment and see what happens :D


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brb

somones at teh door :eek:

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why does nearly everyone think when summat bad happens there is a conspiracy?
why cant people just face facts it was terrorist attack!! no explosives etc...just 2 planes crashing into them and both buildings collasping!

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On the programme independent experts said the building that collapsed next to the Twin Towers, did so because the heat weakened the steel structure.

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There's always people ready with theories about why things happen, be it man made tragedies such as this, or natural ones.

It's only just over twenty years ago that the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester James Anderton, said that AIDS had been sent by God to free the world of homosexuality, this was echoed by the then editor of the Sunday Times Andrew Neil.

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well all i can say is that 9/11 was the best day in my whole life....my son was born 5 years to the day before it happened

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...how it would get rid of lesbians, amongst the least affected of all people, or how they would explain this theory today to the millions of African orphans, orphnned because of AIDS, remains a mystery.

Things happen. More times than not, there isn't some sinister conspiracy behind it.

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Ah yes..the now "Sir Cyril James Anderton".. and the yet to be unannouced "Sir Andrew Neil"..God must move in mysterious ways indeed.
back to the subject, if the CIA, and I presume the conspiracy bods do mean the CIA are the perpetrators of the 9/11 tragedy.. how many people are involed in this murderous attack.. I mean roughly how many Americans would do this and just keep quite?

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Gave you some positive Karma, Mancie! Enjoy!

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well cheers billcat..a welcome respite in this world of Dons and the there "capos" we peasants do at least appreiciate the nice people in here :D

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....... But on the other hand willow, how often do we see fires fuelled by aviation fluid in buildings of that height to make a comparison with?

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LOL! Fair enough, that's true ;)

I don't go in for all those conspiracy theories so I'd be no match, I will withdraw from this thread ....... quickly :D

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If I got 10 pound for every conspiricy and or cover up I would be rich. It keeps some people happy trying to prove these events are not what they seem and that they are a bit like a magic show.

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As well as the evangelic preachers of conspiracy theories, delivering their ill founded claims to stadiums packed with whooping morons, they also interviewed the nerdy young man who made the Loose Change film.

He's been offered a job in Hollywood on the back of his silly little film.

Why doesn't that suprise me?

I honestly watched the programme last night with an open mind. None of the conspiracy theories put forward, couldn't be independently explained, and some of them are just being used as proganda by racist groups.

...but perhaps it was all just proganda, and I was supposed to believe that after watching the programme, because Tony Blair, the Queen, and George W Bush are all really lizards, and that's what they want us to believe.:D

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watched it, the only cover up i can see is with the response to the information recieved. thats more believable than all the band wagon jumpers, who only achieve upset and distress to the poor sods who lost family n friends.

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Yes there was wreckage. Nice shiney wreckage that had come off a plane which hit at over 530 and burned at over 1000c. But no burn marks or anything... strange.

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Don't forget George W Bush wasn't elected President until November 2000.

Do you really think this could have all been planned a conspiracy in a little over nine months?

We can't even finish building the new Wembley stadium on time, and that's been going on for years.:D

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That's just one of the theories, as well as there being five men that run the whole world, or that the people involved are really lizards from a distant galaxy.

To me conspiracy theories are like religion, I don't believe in either, and I've seen no credible evidence to support either.

I'll just have to accept that some people believe in them, and whatever I say will not convince them that they exist.:)

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He might have had an inkling through security sources but not enough info to know were they would strike and when. No-one including GWB wants to see their citizens killed just as a popularity booster. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbour the president knew something was going to happen but not really when and where.

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The real murderer is still out there and insiting others to carry out more murders like this. He who plants the seed is as guilty as those that reap the harvest. Or to put it another way if I have a gun and load it for the notion that said gun kills someone them I am as much to blame as he who pulls the trigger.

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Come on, you obviously have a theory. Who are the guilty parties then?:rolleyes: :D

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As I've stated before on this subject. I KNOW, without a doubt that the plane hit the pentagon as stated. I had a friend who was in that section at that time doing electrical work. He witnessed the roar of the plane coming in, the explosion, and the aftermath as dead and burning bodies were being rescued or covered. He saw heroes running into the burning section to rescued those trapped and injured.

Brian