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http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...east_lancs.php

Do you think it will cut fraud or will it be used for big brother monitoring & targeting ???

I have my reservations about all this, as no doubt the cost for a passport will go up to pay for these centres, but also people getting personal information off u unnecessarily. Do i beleive it cuts fraud - not as much as the claims & in the wrong hands could be potentionally dangerous!! Also yet again the minority of the population will not be able to afford a passport, so really will this stop criminality of fraud. Also the information claimed to be able to check into all your history & all records against u - surely is a breach of civil privacy & personal stuff - that strangers in passport offices & who ever else can know ALL about u, also open to abuse this information!! How often i go for a pee should need to be up for anyone to know about gee is nowt private.

Im not convinced are u?

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No, neither am I......for one thing we have had 'porous' borders for too long.
The government has absolutely no idea how many people have come into this country illegally...and what is more they are prepared to do nothing about it.
Being strict on the issuing of passports is a bit late if you ask me.....the phrase about stable doors and horses bolting springs to mind.

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It’s late in coming, but better late than never. If we have nothing to hide we need not worry about big brother scenarios. I only hope that when illegal immigrants and fraudsters are found their deported immediately with none of this human rights bollocks.

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I signed a petition against ID cards and recieved an 'email' from 'Tony Blair' about it, I'll post teh content tomorrow but TBH it was a we'll do whatever we damn well please and hide it under the terrorism and identity fraud banner.

I see a monster rising

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Glad its not only me that sees this:) cos its the cop out way for the gov - we do the monkey work for them & their incompetance over immigration:(

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I feel that if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't be afraid of these more stringent checks;if it means we actually know who is coming and going in and out of our country so much the better. Fingerprints would be better still. I have nothing to hide and would happily do that if it went some way to ensuring my families safety.

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Nowt to hide but how much imformation about u do they need to know??? & how safe is this information???

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Do some pushups.

Put a towel over it.

Take a cold shower.

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And quite bragging! "Monster!"

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:rofl38: your on form tonight Billcat :rofl38:

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I've seen the government here misuse information, sometimes blatantly.

It's none of the government's business. And it should stay that way.

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entwisi probably left that opportunity on purpose.

In any case, just contributing some silly fun. Glad you enjoyed it!

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The information they are asking or could be held on record is like family, education records, medical records, no doubt NI & tax details even credit score/check details etc - now that is going too far just to record people going on hols, isnt it?

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Exactly my concern also, so is it the UK is following the American way?:rolleyes:

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Hehehehehe u have made me laugh this evening on a few threads LOL i will iou some karma for it:D

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Not that I am aware of, but when I last renewed my passport (in 1998), it was mostly a matter of getting an up-to-date picture, filling out a form, and sending it in along with my old passport and the correct payment.

Okay, I got curious and looked it up. Here is what is required for a first-time passport:

"New Application for a U.S. Passport

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Blimey cheers Billcat, seems like our Gov is going to be over heavy handed but at the wrong people here:rolleyes:

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You seem quite good at it yourself matey!!! :D

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this country is getting really off kilter about security. a guilty conscience??? Greg, care to comment?

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unfortunaty i see the c.s.a senario happening as i like to call it..

easier to monitor innocent folk than chase after criminals and illigals where as in teh c.s.a the govenment punished the good people and did absolutely sod all about teh ones who wont pay for their kids

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Well, i have nothing to hide, but i feel this government wants to interfere in every aspect of our lives....and not for our benefit either.
They already know where i am.....they never seem to have difficulty finding me to pay taxes. And these means will not make us any safer....there will still be the criminal/terrorist element who will be able to get passports for whatever end they choose. It will always be Joe Public who are penalised...you know, those law abiding folks who do it the right way....and the treasury coffers will groan with the money they extract from us.

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I dont have a problem with it, if it stops the people who have several names from obtaining multiple passports then I dont think its a bad thing.

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I don't have a problem with it.

If it stops even some of the current abuse I'll be happy.

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I really don't see the problem;fake passports are obviously easy to come by ;that's why we need tougher criteria to get one.Surely it's worth the extra hassle and info if it stops even 1 idiot detonating himself on a crowded tube train? These measures are obviously to combat both illegal immigrants and would be terrorists,both of which we could well do without. The education record/religion questions may look like an invasion of privacy but let's be honest here,why do you think they are asking for them? It's not to check your GCSE results is it???

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Or perhaps the structure for nipping round to somebody's house to print copies is already in place :rolleyes:

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Dunno how well they will work. As long as its better than the current passport office. I have 2 passports exactly the same!! I went and picked one up and the other was sent through the post. Wonder how much I could get for one of them????:p

Only kidding i'd never do that, but it does go to show that there are mistakes made. So how safe is out personal information going to be??

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Lindsay, what I was getting at was the fake passports will still be available to the criminal/terrorist fraternity...and they don't get them from the passport office...so how will it stop the crims and the terrorists? We sit back and watch while this government takes over and meddles in aspects of our lives that can be turned against us. And the government is more than happy to make us pay our hard earned cash to be conned......thinking that they are combatting terrorism. Well I, for one do not trust them as far as i could blow them.

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There used to be a "scam" that the Irish kids used to use when they got picked up for overstaying their visitors visas to the US and Australia , evidently Irish nationals are entitled to a British passport as well as an Irish passport (something to do with 1926 and the creation of the Irish Free State ) , so first time they got chucked out on either the Brit or Irish passport they would come back on the other one ....... not the end of the scam though ......they would then get passports issued in the Gaelic versions of their name , and it was all completly legal .
I suppose the events of Sept 11 put a damper on this rouse in the U S but wouldn't be surprised if its still going on in other places .

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