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I Earned It ,do As You Will
Could'nt believe this snippet from this mornings press.Over the next 2 years the government is to spend £56 million of tax payers money,developing new gyspsy sites & sprucing up existing ones.
Do you think your & mine hard earned taxes should be spent like this?How long before they'd be back to their original state?I would'nt mind too much but i don't think there are a lot of them who actually pay income tax.I think this government still sees the gypsy as some little old dear selling lucky heather & clothes pegs . |
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Disgusting! Dont like them and the way they behave, use the money to get rid of them.
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totally agree with you tadah.
with the money they make and save by not paying tax they can afford to do it themselves! |
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I dont agree with that at all, I know not all gypsies are trouble makers but they certainly have enough of their own money should they wish to spruce up their own sites.
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Ive never had the good fortune to see a nice gypo sorry.
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I dont think me first post reads right what I meant was that I dont agree with the fact they are being given money to spruce up their sites.
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Ah ok i took it wrong way pal sorry.
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I remember when we were on holiday at the cala gran,many years ago .We were having a drink at lunchtime in the i,c,i,club in Fleetwood ,when an irate farmer came in absolutely livid .the jypsies had got up at the crack of dawn and milked all his cows ,, it was hard not to laugh ,but it was his livlihood and he had to explain to customers ,that there was no milk for their breakfast ...
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these lot dont even pay council tax do they?:mad:
the cheek of it!! |
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What an absolutely totally ludicrously insane idea! Unless of course they plan to start paying taxes like the rest of us. They will won't they? And gladly pay fees on the sites and income tax and never camp illegally or fly tip any more or make an ugly mess of the countryside.
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Not all travelling people are bad, some of my best mates are travellers,
so they dont pay tax, who on this site would pay it if they could avoid it what alot of people dont like is the fact that they stick together and wont take crap from any one:Banane36: |
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At least the hoses in accy most contain people who pay tax. But with gypos they just dont give a toss about anything that isnt theres.
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lol yeh your right there granny, they dont own bins, just throw it anywhere or dump anywhere!
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Spoke to a taxi driver who picked a traveller up somewhere and took him to the campsite. The guy then refused to pay the fare and his mates all gathered round, armed with dogs and lumps of scaffolding pole to see off the taxi driver. Oh yes they stick together OK.
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I know they can be very intimidating in groups, thats one of the reasons people stopped going to pubs in Accy.
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The ones who camped on Aldi car park got my back up with the filth they dumped and using the supermarket wall as a loo.
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Dont remember that Willow, was it recent?
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i think thats wrong as well if you cant afford to maintain your own home then dont buy one , sory but i dont agree that house owners should get tax payers money to improve their house and add value which makes them money areas of blackburn road have been renovated twice because the first time they got teh grants they didnt look after them and let the buildings run down agian as for the gypos screw them they make enough money and if the 14 year olds can afford to drive new transit vans they must have plenty of money just off charter street there is a ruined childrens play area where for teh past few months some travelers have been living and you shoudl see teh crap thats been left behind ps: dear councilor can you please get that crap shifted beofre the poor sods near it get infested with rats |
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Why not take these sites out of local government s hands and privatise them like they have with council houses, any takers Hyndburn Homes?
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It seems alot of folk are blaming travellers for what tinkers are doing.
tinkers are not travellers they are the one,s that are leaveing all thecrap around the place the bloke who owns wests carpets is a traveller :Banane30: |
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not really we're blaming the ones who travel or stay put on government funded sites (sorry taxpayer funded) who make no contribution to the system yet take everything they can get leave the place (wherever it may be) in a pigsty and have absolutely no regard for the hardworking people that are paying for them to have such a life.
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So they pay neither taxes nor taxis....:D ;)
I don't think that this should be done at taxpayer's expense. I remember what a mess Aldi was left in, I think it was nearly 2 years ago but may have been longer. Rubbish all over the car park which some poor beggar then had to clean up:( |
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We've got a caravan and we spend weeks on end in it during the school summer holidays. We like to travel too - that doesn't mean we are the sort of 'travellers' we are complaining about. Last Easter a family came to the site we were staying at on a farm - they helped themselves to chicken wire to make a fence to keep their dog in. They left rubbish outside their caravan in bin bags (everyone else took theirs to the collecting area.) They even helped themselves to our step one day when we were out and made a barbeque on it! Then one night we had the police up because she was screaming that he was murdering her with a knife and she was trying to climb out of the window and he was dragging her back inside. The police carted him off but next morning she was begging for somebody to bring him back! They'd booked to stay on the site for a week but the bit where they stayed ended up a right mess and they were turfed off before the end of the week. |
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sorry i agree with moonshiner, theres good and bad in them, used to drink in the royal up ossy when i was young and 2 of the families from the site behind the palladium were always in fri-sun nights from daughters to grandmothers, they were lovely people and a few times booked and paid for a taxi to take a very drunken cashy back to accy. for me some folk have tunnel vision and only see or are aware of the scumbags.:rolleyes:
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i'm not saying there aren't any cashy i'm saying i've yet to meet a decent honourable taxpaying one
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Like Jedi I haven't come across any good ones yet either. When that family came on the caravan site last year some people were going "Oh no, gypos" and "Nail down your valuables" and I was thinking how awful they were to be like that and that the travellers had as much right to be there as anyone else who paid for it. But then they started causing trouble and making a mess and helping themselves to other people's things so they kind of fulfilled people's expectations.
If all they did was live in caravans and travel around and respect the countryside and other people's property, stay on designated sites and not abuse supermarket car parks or steal land from farmers and then claim it as their own then fair enough - live and let live. But for the people who ride roughshod over other people and leave a disgusting mess behind for someone else to have to deal with then those are the people I have no respect for. |
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I was in a boozer a while back & all the women where in with their kids.The kids were running riot in the pub,running around,lifting drinks,cadging money,jumping infront of the TV....there must have been around ten or so.When one bloke complained,as the landlord did'nt seem bothered,one of the mothers:rolleyes: called him a paedo and to *****n drink somewhere else:eek: Iremember thinking,in ten years or so these kids are going to be dangerous.It seems when they go anywhere en masse they can do as they please ..
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There's good and bad, just the same as everyone else.
There are a few Gypsy families in Ossy that have been here at least forty odd years that I know. I went to primary school with some of them, and they were a lovely family, and very much part of the wider community. |
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Do they live permanently on a site there or do they travel about?
There was a gyspy family when I was a girl who gave up travelling and bought a house in Water Street when I used to live in Sultan Street. They were just like everybody else too, normal, clean tidy respectable family. |
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Where are those Chav? I thought that area was either Phoenix or nothing. |
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Well people you know what it is, the less you do the more you get.
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the people rindy is refering to are the same families i am on about.
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They are obviously not the same kind of people we've been grumbling about then and probably wouldn't want to be classed as the same.
My friend's grandfather lives on a permanent caravan site. A lot of people do, and they look after the area and they are respectable people. It's not the same. Sorry if anything I have said in this thread has offended anyone. I did not intend to do so. I just don't like people who make a mess of other people's facilities (car parks, land or whatever) and then just clear off and leave it for others to clean up. |
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The solution to this in my opinion, is to allocate and sell or lease the land to the Travellers and let them regulate it themslves, as they do in Moscow Mill St. This way it would be hopefully kept clean and tidy. I am quite sure the Travelling Community know who the 'bad apples' are and would soon turn them away, the only stumbling block to this idea is where? NIMBY.
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If there already are site (such as Whinney Hill) then that solves the problem - apart from those not welcome on the sites by the decent folks who would still end up on Aldi car park.
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