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i went to view a property for sale owned by hyndburn homes on blakburn rd today and from the outside it appeard fine. i knew that a 100 year old man who i knew lived there for a long time until he died approx 7months ago. wen i got into the house i nearly fainted it was damp all over , peeling wallpaper from the 70s, ceilings nearly falling down and no central heating and it is a massive house so it must have been cold in thewinter. after he died they rewired it and did the kitchen up because it was so grotty. ive seen this company refurbishin modern properties which seemed decent enough and i couldnt comprehend why this property was not refurbished by the previous owners (the council) or hyndbrn homes. his neighbours told me they had tried in vain to get this help for him but failed. when i asked the lady who accompanied me at the viewing to me as to why this poor man had to live like this she shrugged her shoulders. i know this man is dead now but im really shocked and saddened as to why this was allowed to happen.

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It is allowed because it's brick and morter.. a house.. highly valuable commodity whatever state it's in.
When will the people of this country wake up and realise we need more homes.. more houses built?
The "don't build them round here.. its green belt.." or some other excuse bods are very strong when it comes to elections.. politicians get voted for on the strength of keeping these people happy.

There was a thread on here complaining about Jack Prescott wanting to build coincil houses from here to lands end... but why not?... things change and this country needs more houses.. fact!...but we seem to be going down the same old road again were we rely on old stock, renting or buying from landlords wether they be the council or private.

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Did the council/Hyndburn homes own this house when the man lived there? If so would it have been upto him to approach them about it? Did they know it was like that? I agree it seems really sad that he lived like that.

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They probably waited for the old guy to pass away spinner, the profit margin is the God of capitalism, Hyndburn Homes are far worse than Hyndburn Council as they are only accountable to their shareholders, at least you had the option of voting the 'Council' out, but you have no bargining power with a private company save "get out if you don't like it' attitude, are you watching Mr Peter 'perfect' Britclife, when you gave these houses away you were only passing the Buck!

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it actually makes you wonder why the man died, it was probably from old age but did the damp and cold conditions have anything to do with it?

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its diabolical but its buisness, unfortunately you spinner and the poor old guy DO NOT MATTER.

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The same old "brown land" argument Willow... it does not work out.. the poplulation of this country grows day by day..we need new homes.

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At a hundred?:eek:

I suspect of old age!:D

Without knowing the full facts I can't really comment, but they made 'em tough in those days!

He'd certainly have been brought up without central heating, or indeed a bathroom or an indoor loo.

Who knows?

Perhaps at his age he wanted to just see out his long life in his own home, without all the upheaval of having builders disturbing his peace. Or perhaps he was frightened he'd have to move out whilst the renovations were done to his home, and it was his choice to stay there, happy amongst his own things.

The fact is we simply don't know the facts.

Lets just be pleased that the old boy lived to a grand old age in his own home, centrally heated or not.

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facts or no facts rind, theres NO excuse for selling a property in that condition after the old guy croaked, unless its sold cheap to develop.

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We don't know anything!

The price. If he lived there until his death, or was in a home or hospital for a couple of years! Nothing.

I suspect the state of the property will be reflected in the price. It always is, regardless of who the seller is.

If in sixty years time, if some busy body trys to install something in my house, that is now seen as a necessity, and I didn't want it, and I just wanted to see out my days in peace, I'd shoot 'em, and barricade myself in.:D

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Why do this council not take the bull by the horns and do what they say to bad landlords, compulsory purchase these properties, Ill tell you why not, they would then fall foul of their own rules the onus would then be on 'them' to put them into habital conditlon. There is no such thing as a council house, they only have a say in the priority letting of them, the greedy gnomes that got them for nothing are getting all the grants with the perks that go with them, to refurbish them but the catch is, this then enables them to increase the rent as they have upgraded the property , 'at the taxpayers expence'.

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yeh but they are a big company (which i hate) and nobody installed damp. know what yer saying about necessities ya dont want fair doos,but let me knock these robbing scumbags in peace.:D

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Again we have no facts regarding this old man, except hearsay, although if he lived to a hundred it can't have been that unhealthy place to live.

Every week there are young families in the Observer complaing about the conditions of their home. Usually by the time the story has gone to press any work has been rectified, and in every case the reason given by Hyndburn Homes was that the families wanted to move in early, knowing that the work was still to be completed.

If it was true, and this old man was unhappy living in his home, did he have no friends or family, or even neighbours, who could have helped him? The press would have had a feild day. Because they didn't, I suspect he may have been quite content to live undisturbed in his remaining twilight years.

As for damp, any property left unheated and unaired for seven months, especially over winter, in this damp Lancashire weather, will suffer from some sort of damp problem because of condensation.

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Oh dear I so hate letting myself get dragged into this!! :o As part of the stock transfer agreement, rents have to be kept at a certain level and can only rise by inflation and maybe 1 or 2% per year for quite a few years after!! And also as a registered social landlord Hyndburn Homes will be closely monitored by the Housing Corporation and the rules are pretty strict.

As for improvements to properties, if the sitting tenant does not want improvements doing they can not be forced, we have had many people turn down new kitchens, double glazing etc.. and if we are concerned about the standard of any property we have to go to environmental health and they have to apply for a court order before they can take any further action... we cannot just enter a property because we feel work needs to be done!

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I live in a hyndburn homes flat, all the tenants got a news letter last week telling them about the refurbishments, we are not even on the list
(now isunt that a surprise) i rang there office only to be told it was aspecial case:Banane10: when asked if that ment demolition the person i spoke to said she could not say any more :mad:

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i dont think this damp accumelated over 7 months more like 15 years. plaster was falling off the walls in the loft. a friends house was left empty for 10 years and it was in way better condition than this.i know this man had applied for modernisation grant his neighbours told me. the council did eventually double glaze his home and he seemed really proud of the work. i dont think he was scared of builders upheaval and i suspect he had good genes which carried him to that age

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the lady ah H homes was showing off about how they expected to acheive over 105,000 ( thats expenive for that areaand that there had been a lot of interest. the property was showing sighns of subsidence no wonder they want a quik sale. another person viewing the house also knew the old man and was very upset with hyndburn homes. they could have made at least 1 room nice an clean and comfy for him. this poor man was always cleaning roubbish from the streets so i suspect he must hav been houseproud

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Every mortgage company will insist on a survey, which would show any subsidence, and that again will be reflected in the price.

Do you have a link to where this property is for sale with Hyndburn Homes, so we can see the state of the property?

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As for the price the house sells for, that is down to market forces, and what people are prepared to buy it for, and not down to Hyndburn Homes.

It would be really interesting to see the details of this property, but I can't find any. Any links would be much appreciated.

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There is one in accy observer 265 blackburn road offers over £105,000
dont know if it the same one theo:Banane37:

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Was just about to post that, page 57 top right hand corner. It's about all the details anyone is going to get. 3 double bedrooms, it's a big house !!

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that is
e one

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Thank's for correcting me, 'L' I have obviously been misinformed and this is how I thought the system worked, apologies to anyone concerned.

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Why would that have helped? The houses were controlled by employed Council Officers not elected Councillors.

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lister or hartmann its opposite colledge court

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The houses are no longer under the control of an accountable body Neil, and they also have, or should have control of the Council Officers, but I do concede the point that their control is very limited.;)

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Not sure about the greedy gnomes and expensive rent bit. The people who get ripped off with rent are those in the private sector. You are much better off with a housing association. When we moved from a private 2 bed middle terrace that was cold and damp to a 3 bed end town hose that was only 5 years ish old with double glasing and central heating with front and back gardens with off road parking our rent went down about £15 a week. I hope you can steill breath after that long sentance :)