Are cars getting too powerful
 

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Are cars getting too powerful? Who needs to go 0 - 60 in 2 1/2 seconds?
Id hate to be the insurer for this car. According to the aol report he'd rented the car - for £20,000 for the day! Who'd pay that much to rent a car? Someone wanting to show off isnt it. But surely they should have made sure that the person who was renting it could handle a car with all that power. I know i couldnt.

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Not they aint getting too powerful. And if he wants to spend 20 grand on renting the fastest road car in the world for a day and if he can afford it go for it pal. Just dont crash it lol. Hey think about who insursers the only 2 remaining 1968 Ferrari 250GTO's in the world... yours for only £12,000,000

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I think you should have quite a few test drives or lessons before driving a very fast car like that it is different to the bog standard cars.

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At least he had insurance unlike some of the youths you see in the subaru imprezas, evos and crap civics round here.

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Yes they are. How can a Government that is committed to be green and saving the planet allow such vehicles on the road.
Cars should have a max limited horsepower depending on the vehicle type. My large ish estate is 110bhp and is more than powerful enough for anything you would need it for. It towed a car trailer with the same car on the back which was about 400kg over weight on the motorway above the limit of 60mph with relative ease so would pull a caravan at max weight no problem. When we go camping it is full to the gills and tows a small trailer like it is not there. Why would it need to be more powerful?
I am also in agreement to speed limiters on cars as well.

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you need it to be more powerful because we don't all want to wait 3 years to get to 60. There is no law against acceleration. when overtaking the more powerful the car teh quicker you are out of danger.

Powerful (and fast) cars can also be used on private tracks as well as public roads.

I choose to run around in an estate car just like Neil. It does the equivilant of 50 mpg just like Neils, it will carry as much if not more weight than Neils and pull heavier trailers than Neils. It also happens o have 200bhp and do 0-60 in 8 and a bit seconds. Unlike my bike that does it in ~3 seconds. on the motorway if there is a situation I have a choice, I can accelerate very quickly from 70-90 temporarily OR brake, Neil only has one option. Which is safer? I know what my 1st choice would be.

Speed limiters will not cut accidents as idiots will just drive against teh limiter just like wagons do now irrespective of if its safe to do so. Speed does NOT kill, INAPPROPRIATE speed Kills!

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What car you got ian? I agree with the points you have made. What speed would people have the cars limited at? 70? Who here can honestly say they have never gone over 70?

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T5 Volvo on LPG

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Good choice. Karma given. Im suprised at my volvo as its 14 yrs old and in the owners manual it says it as " swift performance making use of its full 89BHP " Well it isnt much but it can still do 120MPH... or so ive been told anyway lol

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oh yes it is, about as practical as it gets, safe as only a volvo can be, comfortable(full leather, heated seats, wood pack, air con, cruise, 4 speed sports auto box), fast :D and on LPG cheap to run (apart from the group 16 insurance but coming with halo as I do its 350 fully comp).

Cheers for teh K

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350 FULLY COMP??!! Barsteward!

Mines 478 TPFT then again i am only 24 with 3 points and 3 years NCB

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i dont need to but it would be nice :D

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Ian books a slot on his bike with Chav on the back :D

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i hope you mean your motorbike :eek:

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Sorry but that is a poor excuse for speeding Ian. Cars should be and will eventually be limited on bhp.
The excuse will be enviromental not safety but I do think it will happen. Will you still feel the same about your car when the duty on LPG is increased more in line with petrol? After all both are fossil fuels. I know LPG burns cleaner but LPG only give's out 20% less CO2 than petrol and CO2 emission's are the current green buzz words.

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that guy as more money than since

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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo!

never!

more power - gimme gimme gimme
*drool drool*

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Not an excuse to speed at all. faced with a lorry coming at me througfh teh central res(And I've seen it happen a few times) I'd like to be able to shove that foot down and get out the way. Cars won't be limited on bhp for forseeable future, there aren't even any rumours, black boxes for speeds won't happen due to privacy. Also you will often find that the larger engined cars are actualy more environmentally friendly when it comes to emissions than a lot of small cars. There are some Mercs/Saabs and volvos that driven through london actually filter the air and put out less crap than they sucked in. Electric vehicles just move the production of emissions from the exhaust to the power station, there is no evidence that they would actually make any difference whatsoever to the overall emissions figure. Then there is teh life cycle of teh car itself. over 75% of teh emissions that a car is responsible for throughout its life come from manufacture and recycling. I'm a high mileage user (current vehicle is at 170K miles and I'm aiming for >250K )so I actually get the most out of the total emissions cost

LPG duty will not increase for at least 4 years. The LPG used in the UK is a by product of the extraction of oil. About 75% of what comes out is actually burnt at the rig as we don't have a market to use it. The more LPG vehicles, the more efficient the whole oil extraction process becomes

20% is still a significant figure and when you add particulates and NOx to the mix its a massive saving. However more importantly, you also seem to be missing the whole point about emissions. With the rate of growth in China at the moment if the WHOLE of Europe stopped producing a single molecule of CO2 today, China would fill the gap left in less than 4 years. It is effectively useless to say that we are helping without the world reigning in the likes of China and USA.

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You wanna try being in the lorry, not a nice feeling I'll tell you :eek:

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Ok so what is your excuse? Or do you mean to tell me that you have Never gone over the speed limit at anytime?

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Mmm, sat 'inside' the 38 ton artic or sat inside the 3/4 ton tinfoil microcar (that people seem to want us to be all driving) that your about to obliterate .

I know where I would rather be. :D

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I think I stated somewhere else on here that our Government should change it's policy on global warming. We should state that we, as a little country are going to do nothing to reduce our emissions until the big countries like USA, Russia and China do. After all, like you said Ian, it makes no difference on a global scale what we do. All our efforts are doing in reality is killing off our heavy industry and manufacturing. This moves industry to places like China where they make the same emissions as we were before we shut down the factories. Global warming policy is therefore costing us jobs, increasing the cost of living and not helping the global environment.


No excuse, I just think it is strange that the Government allow cars on the road that can break the national speed limit in second gear. Of course I break the speed limit every day I travel too and from work. I never said that I agree with the speed limit or what I thought cars should be limited too.
Don't even get me started on why we should ban motorcycles.

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Yes ok but what is your excuss for speeding?

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Cars are getting more powerfull, engineering advancements but I wouldnt say too powerfull.

Speed insome cases can save lives.

As speed increases at least safty also follows suit.

What a waste of a NICE car.

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And did anyone read the sun today? They really do just pluck figures out of nowhere dont they. Apprently it can only do 230MPH erm no it can do 256MPH and its italian not french mr editor.

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More fun than you can handle eh?

Or the fact that some are close to breaking 100mph in FIRST gear and we can't have that :D

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Actually Bugatti is owned by VW so its actually technically German :D and Bugatti was actually a french company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

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In your grandchildren's time all this will be irreleavant, as fossil fuels will be so scarce and expensive that only the rich will be able to travel further than you can walk.

Now is a good time to invest in bicycles or buy horses.:D

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Well why does eveyone say its italian? Ive never heard it be called french before.

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Rindy, did you not see the episode of Top Gear where they powered cars on cow poo & human poo? If theres one thing certain in life like death and taxes, its poo

Then there are all the other sources of bio fuel, farmers today could stop being given subsidys and told to put those fields over to rapeseed, they can create enough biodiesel to power all the UKs diesel requirements. Only Shell etc would then stop bankrolling the political parties and they'd all be bankrupt overnight.

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Because it ends in 'ti' like spaghetti ? :D

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No, because every time I see Jerermy Clarkson I think poo anyway.:D

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he said the same about your good self as well..... :D

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He's only jealous, because my car isn't a penis substitute.

Desire for a big car equals tiny winky.;)

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Glad its only desire for a big car then.....................