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jambutty 16-03-2007 15:27

Thugs Beat Pensioner.
 
Last Wednesday during the early evening, John Lewis, of Cheltenham Road, Blackburn, answered a knock on the door to be confronted by some men (described as in their early 20’s and of Asian appearance) saying that a ball had been kicked into his garden. Presumably John told them to go and get it, closed the door and went back to writing a letter to his daughter.

Then these thugs crept into his house burst through his living room door, one man grabbed him from behind and dragged him out of his chair, whilst another man punched him hard in the right eye and then the left, leaving him temporarily blinded by the assault and totally disorientated.

They demanded money and were told that there was some upstairs. The criminals took the money and searched the rest of the house before running off with £70.

A despicable act and the culprits deserve at least horse whipping.

And here’s me thinking that the Asian youth had a great deal of respect for their elders. Maybe it’s just their own?

Is it me or have the bulk of recently reported crimes been perpetrated by immigrants?

shakermaker 16-03-2007 15:32

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Huge sweeping generalisation alert, again Mr Butty.

cashman 16-03-2007 16:23

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dont really think thats the case, its definately not just immigrants. whoever does things like this though does deserve horsewhipping.

andrewb 16-03-2007 16:26

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They do deserve a horse whipping.


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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 398348)

Is it me or have the bulk of recently reported crimes been perpetrated by immigrants?

It's you.

SPUGGIE J 16-03-2007 17:00

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 398368)
They do deserve a horse whipping.

You getting soft in your old age Cyfr?

Wire tender parts to an electric circuit and give the victim the switch to through as and when tey want and for as long as they want. It might be classed as torture but what happened to the pensioner will be torture on them.

andrewb 16-03-2007 17:08

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We're not as bad as them, right?

If everything were treated as eye for an eye, we'd have a hell of a lot of blind people.

Tinkerbelle 16-03-2007 17:14

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Awww poor guy. What a cowardly act to gang up on a pensioner, it truly sickens me! :(

accymel 16-03-2007 17:21

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Bloody disgraceful & dispicable act to this poor guy!!!!:angry: I daren't say no more before i get banned LOL

panther 16-03-2007 17:37

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scum!! and they will probably get away with it!!

lettie 16-03-2007 17:50

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It's a sad state of affairs but seems to be becoming all the more common to see pensioners attacked. Having said that, young people also get attacked. It isn't always immigrants doing the attacking, bearing in mind that a hell of a lot of young people of asian appearance were born here, caucasian people attack too.

The sad thing is that many of these people get away with it, they are either never caught or, they are caught and defended by some do gooder who plays on things like bad upbringing, mental illness, abuse, drugs, previous good character and a grillion other excuses until they get away with it...

It could be argued that our prison system teaches people how to be better criminals and the sentencing is paltry anyway. I think it will only be a matter of time before people start taking the law into their own hands for people who do these despicable acts.

andrewb 16-03-2007 18:00

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I think its 20% of money gets spent on rehabilitation and 80% on punishment.. I seriously think PILES more money and effort needs to be put in rehabilitation.

Prison makes bad people worse. Sure they're off the streets while they're in there, and the victims get 'justice', but they tend to just get back up to old tricks once out.

Gayle 16-03-2007 18:35

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It is statistically proven that the group most likely to be attacked is young men.

grannyclaret 16-03-2007 21:22

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I am like an old broken record.. i still say
BRING BACK THE BIRCH

cashman 16-03-2007 21:30

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Prison makes bad people worse. Sure they're off the streets while they're in there, and the victims get 'justice', but they tend to just get back up to old tricks once out.----------is this the voice of experiance cyfr?:D

shakermaker 16-03-2007 21:32

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 398589)
is this the voice of experiance cyfr?:D

DON'T DROP THE SOAP


(it makes you become a torie) :D

cashman 16-03-2007 22:10

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funny cyfr, most of the people i know who went to prison, never went back, but got married, got a job and have worked ever since,granted a couple never did,but that is not most!! very enlightening are the views of people that aint been around the block a few times.:rolleyes:

West Ender 16-03-2007 22:22

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No, it's not just immigrants. The big problem, no matter what the ethnic background, is drug use.

Case in point, in my local paper this week; a 14 year old boy from a "respectable" family robbed his neighbours. I court he said he needed money for his drug habit - "Weed and Es and stuff", he was reported as saying. We've also had a lot of muggings of elderly ladies in Warrington and they are all reported to be done by white men.

knowlesy 16-03-2007 23:04

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 398605)
funny cyfr, most of the people i know who went to prison, never went back, but got married, got a job and have worked ever since,granted a couple never did,but that is not most!! very enlightening are the views of people that aint been around the block a few times.:rolleyes:

Actually my views are based on real people, perhaps i've been unfortunate, or maybe you have been fortunate, I don't know, but im not just making this view on statistics without having experienced it with my own eyes.

edit: argh, this is Cyfr, i'm not at my house and this autosignin tricked me :p

shakermaker 16-03-2007 23:06

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Cyfr you posted that without having to type!

Ianto.W. 17-03-2007 13:59

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I wonder if any of these cretins fathers are misguided taxi drivers.:rolleyes:

grego 17-03-2007 20:04

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Its disgusting isn't it, it really makes me sick to hear this, lack of punishment in this country fuels these criminals, you dont hear of crimes like this in the UAE.

Eric 17-03-2007 20:59

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And on this side of the pond too ... In New York (I think) a mugger beat up a little old lady ... she was 101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I'm getting old, but I am starting to believe very strongly that the way I was raised - to respect others, particularly those weaker - was the best. Nothing wrong with being a gentleman - not a toffee nose, but a real gentleman. Or maybe I'm just oldfashioned, thought I hope not.

cashman 17-03-2007 21:01

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 398978)
And on this side of the pond too ... In New York (I think) a mugger beat up a little old lady ... she was 101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I'm getting old, but I am starting to believe very strongly that the way I was raised - to respect others, particularly those weaker - was the best. Nothing wrong with being a gentleman - not a toffee nose, but a real gentleman. Or maybe I'm just oldfashioned, thought I hope not.

it may be old fashioned mate, but it will do for me,:)

LancYorkYankee 17-03-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 398958)
Its disgusting isn't it, it really makes me sick to hear this, lack of punishment in this country fuels these criminals, you dont hear of crimes like this in the UAE.

I'm with you Grego!

Brian

Busman747 18-03-2007 19:09

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 398978)
And on this side of the pond too ... In New York (I think) a mugger beat up a little old lady ... she was 101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I'm getting old, but I am starting to believe very strongly that the way I was raised - to respect others, particularly those weaker - was the best. Nothing wrong with being a gentleman - not a toffee nose, but a real gentleman. Or maybe I'm just oldfashioned, thought I hope not.


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...320#post399320


Came across this same news a couple of days ago, she is a real gutsy lady! Don't panic mods, I have put the link to the video in "anything goes", This link just takes you there ;)

grego 18-03-2007 19:13

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Just watched it Busman, glad she's okbut sickening to see someone do that to her.

jambutty 19-03-2007 10:56

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There really are some sick people around. I’ve run out of publishable expletives to attach to both muggers here and over the pond.

Just as much of a coward is the anonymous person who awarded me some negative Karma for this thread with the comment “Just a pity it was not you”.

Whoever it was I dare you to reveal your nasty little self and be judged by your peers.

WillowTheWhisp 19-03-2007 11:53

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 399608)

Just as much of a coward is the anonymous person who awarded me some negative Karma for this thread with the comment “Just a pity it was not you”.


If the person who posted that actually meant what they said then they are as bad as the thugs and muggers. What is happening to the human race? :(

Less 19-03-2007 12:00

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 399636)
If the person who posted that actually meant what they said then they are as bad as the thugs and muggers. What is happening to the human race? :(

They no doubt posted that on his karma knowing he would 'do one', (which he, as usual did), if karma upsets him so much then he should learn to ignore it and stop boring the rest of us with it.:mad:

(no it wasn't me).:cool:

SPUGGIE J 19-03-2007 12:12

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Jambutty proberley feels that strongly about this issue as it could have been him as easily as any other pensioner. Its a bit like when we have a go at the ned criminals as we could suffer as well. What about all the outrage ove the damaged trees on Broadway we wernt happy were we and let it be known almost as if it was an attack on ourselves personally.

jambutty 19-03-2007 14:43

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You can bet your sweet life that anon meant what s/he wrote WillowTheWhisp. This person is one nasty piece of work without any moral fibre whatsoever. S/he wouldn’t have dared to say it to my face. S/he prefers to go about like a sneak thief in the dark stabbing people in the back and running away.

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 399642)
They no doubt posted that on his karma knowing he would 'do one', (which he, as usual did), if karma upsets him so much then he should learn to ignore it and stop boring the rest of us with it.:mad:

(no it wasn't me).:cool:

Do one? Do one what? If you mean bringing the issue out into the open then that is my way.

I posted the details to let other members know that there is a thug masquerading as a decent person on this forum and I guess s/he has a friend who tags on as well.

The Karma points and that Rep Power thing are of no consequence to me. Vicious, nasty and spiteful anonymous comments are another matter.

Less 19-03-2007 14:57

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 399709)


The Karma points and that Rep Power thing are of no consequence to me. Vicious, nasty and spiteful anonymous comments are another matter.

Grow up for goodness sake, the karma comments and the person that gave them, do not matter at all, the fact that you can't act mature enough to ignore such things says far more about you when you bite every time, it shows you are just as petty in your own way, now, can we get out of your tiny little world and back to the subject in hand? Accyweb wasn't created so that you could be the only hard done to person, there are others waiting in line for their insults.:p

chav1 19-03-2007 15:13

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 399710)
Grow up for goodness sake, the karma comments and the person that gave them, do not matter at all, the fact that you can't act mature enough to ignore such things says far more about you when you bite every time, it shows you are just as petty in your own way, now, can we get out of your tiny little world and back to the subject in hand? Accyweb wasn't created so that you could be the only hard done to person, there are others waiting in line for their insults.:p

lol new thread

old man gets insulted by old man :D

jambutty 19-03-2007 17:20

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I do beg your pardon your snotship. I wasn’t aware that just because you have a point of view the rest of us should have the same viewpoint. Like heck!!!! Talk about being big headed! Sheeesh!

Insults are one thing but wishing ill on someone is another and it has no place in a public forum. If you cannot accept that then that’s just tough! You’d better get used to it because if a similar incident happens again I will do exactly the same

No one is forcing you to read my posts. I would suggest that henceforth you just ignore them and find someone else to insult and try and get to kowtow to your juvenile mind.

I would remind you that I have never insulted anyone – only in response to someone insulting me first. I reserve the right to fight my corner if I choose and if you don’t like it then allow me to demonstrate that I can still pull a long bow with either hand.

I’ve never been in a tiny world but if you want to stay in yours, well that’s your affair.

Accy web was created so that - as far as General chat is concerned – members can post common sense. Decent serious discussions to be enjoyed by everyone! You could try doing just that!

chav1 19-03-2007 17:27

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oooooooooooh did you hear that less he just called you an old washed up ugly troll witha drink problem.

well thats how i heard it anyway

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT :D

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Less 19-03-2007 18:24

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 399751)



Accy web was created so that - as far as General chat is concerned – members can post common sense. Decent serious discussions to be enjoyed by everyone! You could try doing just that!

You don't know enough about the history of

Accyweb
(please note no space between Accy and web),

to be able to comment about how, why or for what reason it was created.

I will not bother with all the details but suffice it to say, that it was created to be used along the lines laid down by the person(s) paying the bills and because of the pressure of work and his growing family Roy may well be making a few changes around here from about the first of next month, which my flattering old butt' of the Jam would include me making a greater fiscal contribution to Accyweb than I have done in the past. Who knows You may see Moderator or Super Moderator or Joint Administrator or Senior Administrator, (excuse me while I take my tablets megalomania might have had it's place in the second world war but surely not on a little site like this?).

Actually none of the above titles, I will be continuing in the background so far as the general running of the site is concerned because both Roy and myself think the mods etc. do a fantastic if thankless job on Accyweb and do not need any interference with what they are doing, be it from above or from below,
(just a little care and cash to ensure there is a site for them to moderate).

Don't worry yourself over much Jambutty with this surprising, (and at the moment a little premature), revelation I will not let it interfere with the long standing relationship we have enjoyed over what seems to be a very, very long time.:cool:



tadah 19-03-2007 18:36

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 399751)
Like heck!!!! Talk about being big headed! Sheeesh!

Yeah sheeesh indeed!

chav1 19-03-2007 18:37

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 399784)
Roy may well be making a few changes around here





chav1 for moderator :D


does anyone second the motion :Banane37:

tadah 19-03-2007 18:46

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Do It Lol....

tadah 19-03-2007 18:46

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and me as mod of motorsport section lol


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