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andrewb 18-03-2007 10:13

So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Often what we say in debates on other threads can conflict with our actual views when we look at the general picture, at least it can with me.

I'm studying ideologies as a module in Politics at college and well, im really stuck trying to define where I should be.

I've used http://www.politicalcompass.org/ for several years now and my 'score' on there has certainly turned more left and liberal, although not to a great extent, its around the -1.00 mark.

Very presumptuous I know, but lets say I could be the Prime Minister, what economic path do you take?

You see I know my end goal, my end goal would be improving peoples lives, but how do you achieve the end goal? Do you have a freemarket economy, with a huge amount of weath in certain individuals, because of course, unless something huge happens in the world, a certain amount of money can lead to more happiness (in terms of ample food, living standards, quality of life) and these people can be taxed, or they could use their wealth to improve other peoples lives by self motivation like Bill Gates.

Or do you follow a socialist route, try and spread the wealth from the start, but there will inevitably be less wealth overall to spread due to lack of capitalists, in my opinion.

Then theres the whole liberalism aspect, do you allow people freedom to do what they want? Is that *really* sustainable? Can the western world really say honestly that they can prevent global warming through tax incentives? A possible solution would be much more state control to force people to do things to help reduce the effect.

I watched Comic Relief (whatever night it was on, i've had very little sleep :p)
Watching the video clips, how can we sit here knowing we have all this wealth and people are literally dieing. They can't help themselves out of the situation, im sure they'd love to, but they just can't do it themselves. My goal to improve peoples lives certainly can't end with the UK, I think it's wrong to be ignorant to other countries simply due to people saying 'What about our own people'.

On specific issues I tend to base it on what I think at the time and how things have happened in the past, using facts to try and create reasoned solutions, but overall, ideologically I have no idea where I stand, I have no idea what would be the best way politically to move to achieve my goal.

Less 18-03-2007 10:18

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
I don't so much stand more like sit!:)
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=htt...kq8q4uMdnV7os=

lancsdave 18-03-2007 11:29

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
I'm an atheist I don't believe in any of them.

Less 18-03-2007 11:42

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 399179)
I'm an atheist I don't believe in any of them.

Hey up, I'm an atheist as well, how do you fancy getting together one Saturday morning and we can go annoy the Christians by knocking on their doors and asking if they would like to join us.:D

http://www.sarahpeake.org/images/062106013.jpg

mthead 18-03-2007 11:53

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Just done the test thing,and I was quite surprised with the finished thing.
Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.77


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RightLibertarian
The nearest person to me that was named was Pope Benedict XVI :confused:

shakermaker 18-03-2007 12:08

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
I'm Ghandi. :D

Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

Ianto.W. 18-03-2007 12:51

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
An old saying Cyfr, if you don't vote Labour before your 30years of age, you have no heart, if you vote Labour after the age of 30 you have no sense, so the answer given in post 2 is probably your best direction.;)

cashman 18-03-2007 13:03

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
im somewhere between Stalin n Ghandi = Eco L/R -6.50 social lib/authoritarian 0.51 so i,m more confused now than i ever was.:eek:

WillowTheWhisp 18-03-2007 13:54

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
I'm somewhere between the Pope and Nelson Mandela.

flashy 18-03-2007 14:09

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
i'm between the dalai lama and nelson mandela

g78 18-03-2007 14:31

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Well I just took the test and I am on the exact same spot as Gandhi, so quite an interesting outcome there.

mani 18-03-2007 18:22

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
who's mahmoud abbas?

i'm near there and the pope

Eric 18-03-2007 21:54

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Why did the Canadian politician cross the road? To get to the middle. Not as funny as "Why did the pervert cross the road?" However, my grandad was labour and union all the way, and it stuck with me. That's better than what the pervert was stuck to.

SPUGGIE J 19-03-2007 11:09

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Took the test and did it with consideration and ended up with;

Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00


Whatever it says of me I aint too sure but at least it wasnt extreme in anyway.

WillowTheWhisp 19-03-2007 11:42

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mani (Post 399296)
who's mahmoud abbas?

Palestinian President.

Ianto.W. 19-03-2007 11:43

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
My personal political stance used to be about 3miles to the right of Ghengis Khan, and then my money ran out.;)

entwisi 19-03-2007 11:51

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
E L/R -0.5
S L/A -2.46

so I'm slightly left (probably my upbringing) with a definate slant away from Authoritarian.

tadah 19-03-2007 11:52

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
All politicians are arses and never come up with anything that briatain likes so i see it as just a load of buttocks!

SPUGGIE J 19-03-2007 12:03

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 399625)
My personal political stance used to be about 3miles to the right of Ghengis Khan, and then my money ran out.;)

Mugged by the govenment like the rest of us. :(

How all this is ment to affect how we vote beats me. I vote based on what would benifit me and my family not what is the "Family Line" or traditional. A vote is something to be used wisely not just given out to the "popular" party.

cashman 19-03-2007 12:33

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 399644)
Mugged by the govenment like the rest of us. :(

. A vote is something to be used wisely not just given out to the "popular" party.

that is of coarse unless your voting for some sex offenders license.;)

Margaret Pilkington 19-03-2007 12:36

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
In local elections I vote on local issues...regardless of the party.
In national elections i do not follow any party political dogmas, but vote according to who I think will make the best job of running the country.......and I haven't done the score thing because I hate to be pigeon holed.

SPUGGIE J 19-03-2007 12:43

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 399658)
that is of coarse unless your voting for some sex offenders license.;)

Hell would freeze and heaven would relocate to Accy first. As stated in the thread that includes this issue I have stated my view I think. :p

Lolly 19-03-2007 13:15

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
This is me.....

Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44


I have no idea what this means though. Its somewhere near Ghandi. :confused:

Ianto.W. 19-03-2007 14:19

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 399684)
This is me.....

Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44

I have no idea what this means though. Its somewhere near Ghandi. :confused:

I doubt if Ghandi would understand that assessment either Lolly:confused:

jedimaster 19-03-2007 17:08

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
somewhere between ghandi and the dalai lama

flashy 19-03-2007 17:09

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
i demand to be moved, dont wanna be stood next to jedi.........*walks off sulking* ;)

chav1 19-03-2007 17:19

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
i stand right about here :D

http://www.commonsensefarm.com/image...oapbox-pic.jpg

Mancie 19-03-2007 17:33

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 399750)

Could have at least polished yer boots man!..bring back National Service thats' I say

Billcat 21-03-2007 16:22

Re: So where do you actually stand, politically?
 
This is me.....

Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Looks like I am in Dalai Lama territory. LOL! Ommmmmmmmm!


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