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garinda 20-03-2007 14:44

Celebrity tripe.
 
On our little weekly trip to Accrington, we were suprised today that all the carparks were full, well we had to walk much further than we normally do, because of the increase in the number of cars.

Only when we got to the market did we realise why the town was so heaving with people on this cold, blustery, March day.

Celebrated chef Gordon Ramsey, was cooking tripe and onions at the tripe stall.

It was nice to see the market so busy for a change.

Did anyone else see him?

Apparently he didn't stay outside too long. Complaining it was too cold, and quickly retired to Peggy's Cafe, inside the Market Hall.

Although it was cold, we didn't notice him swearing, so the air didn't turn any bluer.:D

flashy 20-03-2007 14:47

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its nice to know celebs come to the town, i never knew anything about it though, wonder if magpie knew

garinda 20-03-2007 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 400152)
its nice to know celebs come to the town, i never knew anything about it though, wonder if magpie knew

Perhaps they're going to have a celebrity each week working there.:D

Christopher Biggins selling sausages, Marianne Faithfull sellin Mars bars, that sort of thing.;)

flashy 20-03-2007 14:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 400156)
Perhaps they're going to have a celebrity each week working there.:D

Christopher Biggins selling sausages, Marianne Faithfull sellin Mars bars, that sort of thing.;)



now now uncle rindy, less of the bitchin ;)

cashman 20-03-2007 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 400156)
Perhaps they're going to have a celebrity each week working there.:D

Christopher Biggins selling sausages, Marianne Faithfull sellin Mars bars, that sort of thing.;)

or even P.B. selling bullsh**.:D

chav1 20-03-2007 14:58

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heather Mcartney/Mills can do an appearance at clarks

stephen hawkings could appear at PC cellular

Margaret Pilkington 20-03-2007 15:21

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Nothing on God's green earth would induce me to eat tripe...no matter how it was cooked...or for that matter who cooked it. I would throw away the tripe and eat the pan!

garinda 20-03-2007 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 400170)
Nothing on God's green earth would induce me to eat tripe...no matter how it was cooked...or for that matter who cooked it. I would throw away the tripe and eat the pan!


I like to try most things once, to see if I like them, but even Mr. Ramsey couldn't tempt me to try tripe again.

Yuk.

Offal, you can keep it.

BOB 20-03-2007 15:37

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still there at 4 oclock with a police bodyguard 3 of them

flashy 20-03-2007 16:25

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ive eaten tripe but never had it cooked, it just tastes like water to me

harwood red 20-03-2007 16:48

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It's long time since I had any tripe but always loved it smothered in vinegar :)

Mancie 20-03-2007 16:59

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Cooked tripe? OMG!!...Gordon Ramsey can sod off with his namby pamby,wishy washy,feely touchy posh cooking way's... raw tripe and vinegar washed down with a mug of Vimto..thats the way.

flashy 20-03-2007 16:59

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lol thats how i eat it, vinegar n black pepper

mrskitty 20-03-2007 17:01

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Donna told me she saw him in town....
i just thought she had been on the 'mothers ruin' again.

harwood red 20-03-2007 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 400208)
Cooked tripe? OMG!!...Gordon Ramsey can sod off with his namby pamby,wishy washy,feely touchy posh cooking way's... raw tripe and vinegar washed down with a mug of Vimto..thats the way.

YEUK!!!!




















AT THE VIMTO ;)

Gayle 20-03-2007 17:11

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I didn't see any publicity about this anywhere - did I miss it in the papers?

accymel 20-03-2007 18:13

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Yeh i found out same way as rindy wandered thro a packed market to bump into Gordon Ramsey, blumming mobile stations were probably overloaded with 'guess who im standing in front of' calls, yes i did but did anyone beleive me ???? ----- errrr nope so had to send pic messages to prove it:D

lindsay ormerod 20-03-2007 18:14

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I didn't see any publicity for it but he was deffo there;larger than he looks on the tv! Filming it for the "F Word " apparently which is what he would've got off me had he given tripe to eat !:D He did brave the cold for a long time though;(and several Accrington "characters" for want of a better word) that episode will make us look more like Royston Vasey than ever!

panther 20-03-2007 18:20

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oh god glad i wasnt there the thought of cooking tripe and onions knocks me sick!!
did he not tell anyone to **** off!!...LOL

accymel 20-03-2007 18:26

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Not that i heard..... was waiting for the F word to pop out hehehehehhe:D

chav1 20-03-2007 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 400212)
YEUK!!!!



AT THE VIMTO ;)

oi leave yeh vimto alone its very yummy with milk :D

panther 20-03-2007 18:39

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ive never tried it with milk, ill keep that in mind:D

Doug 20-03-2007 18:56

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I was there all day today, I didn’t see the bloke but a woman in Marks & Spencer’s commented on the fact he was here. After a gander round smiths I went over to the library and forgot all about him.

grego 20-03-2007 19:21

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Wish I'd have known, would have been down there, there's something about him:)

WillowTheWhisp 20-03-2007 19:25

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Whatever possessed him to come to Accy?

Gayle 20-03-2007 20:04

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The subject matter was 'tripe' - pretty much self explanatory I would have said Willow.

Ianto.W. 20-03-2007 21:06

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Anyone who would not eat tripe cooked or uncooked, has never had an empty belly in my opinion.

Doug 20-03-2007 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 400368)
Anyone who would not eat tripe cooked or uncooked, has never had an empty belly in my opinion.

We use to have Tripe every week when we where kids, uncooked drenched in vinegar. Not had it for years. The other delicacy I remember was pressed Ox Tongue. :)

Mancie 20-03-2007 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 400376)
We use to have Tripe every week when we where kids, uncooked drenched in vinegar. Not had it for years. The other delicacy I remember was pressed Ox Tongue. :)

And as Ianto said if your hungry enough you'll eat anything.. in my day we were so hungry one of us would sneak behind the Ox... shove a big stick up it's backside.. and when the Ox stuck it's tongue out we would bite bits off!

WillowTheWhisp 20-03-2007 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 400345)
The subject matter was 'tripe' - pretty much self explanatory I would have said Willow.

I thought there were tripier places than Accrington. :)

garinda 20-03-2007 22:34

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Anything you ever wanted to know about tripe.

Infact a load of old tripe!

http://www.tripesite.com/lore.html

Doug 20-03-2007 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 400379)
And as Ianto said if your hungry enough you'll eat anything.. in my day we were so hungry one of us would sneak behind the Ox... shove a big stick up it's backside.. and when the Ox stuck it's tongue out we would bite bits off!

At least you got it fresh and hot with a grass salad on the side with a sticky natural dressing. :D

Doug 20-03-2007 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 400403)
Anything you ever wanted to know about tripe.

Infact a load of old tripe!

http://www.tripesite.com/lore.html


Couldn't you find a site with nice tripie pictures..:)

garinda 20-03-2007 22:45

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 400408)
Couldn't you find a site with nice tripie pictures..:)

There you go then.

http://www.totallyrawdogfood.com/images/tripe.JPG


Hope that's got your juices flowing.:D

Doug 20-03-2007 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 400411)
There you go then.

http://www.totallyrawdogfood.com/images/tripe.JPG


Hope that's got your juices flowing.:D


Not that fresh you plonker I'm half way down a nice bottle of Jacobs Creek Marlot.

Mancie 20-03-2007 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 400411)
There you go then.

http://www.totallyrawdogfood.com/images/tripe.JPG


Hope that's got your juices flowing.:D

Nice... Damien Hirst eat yer heart out!

Ianto.W. 20-03-2007 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 400376)
We use to have Tripe every week when we where kids, uncooked drenched in vinegar. Not had it for years. The other delicacy I remember was pressed Ox Tongue. :)

Doug I have an ox tongue oven bottom muffin every other day, it is one of the most expensive cooked meats you can buy, everyone to their own but 'tongue has a taste of it's own and it is full of goodness. Tripe I eat in the summer months always cold, my daughter goes early down to the market to make sure I get a little of each type. Today's generation with take aways by the score, microwaves to reheat the food wonder why these allergies abound take note.:cool:

Mancie 20-03-2007 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 400406)
At least you got it fresh and hot with a grass salad on the side with a sticky natural dressing. :D

Yes.. but they were hard days Doug..we were so hungry that we would sneak up on cows ..drag em down and chop off a back leg... we would stand it up and prop it's leg up with bricks... sometimes the farmer didn't even notice for weeks on end!

Doug 20-03-2007 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 400434)
Doug I have an ox tongue oven bottom muffin every other day, it is one of the most expensive cooked meats you can buy, everyone to their own but 'tongue has a taste of it's own and it is full of goodness. Tripe I eat in the summer months always cold, my daughter goes early down to the market to make sure I get a little of each type. Today's generation with take aways by the score, microwaves to reheat the food wonder why these allergies abound take note.:cool:

I know what you mean Ian. I've not eaten Ox tongue since 1966. It was a treat my Grandma saved for me on a Saturday afternoon. We had to tuch tongues before we would tuck into our Ox Tongue and Mothers pride bread. God I wish I could go back to those days.

Doug 20-03-2007 23:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 400437)
Yes.. but they were hard days Doug..we were so hungry that we would sneak up on cows ..drag em down and chop off a back leg... we would stand it up and prop it's leg up with bricks... sometimes the farmer didn't even notice for weeks on end!

Daft ******, bet you didn't have to wait for it to rain before you could have a wash. :D

SPUGGIE J 20-03-2007 23:55

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I aint had tripe in years and I do like it. Did no one even get a phone piccy of him?

shillelagh 21-03-2007 00:00

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Never had tripe and no i dont fancy it either - it looks horrible

Doug 21-03-2007 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 400454)
Never had tripe and no i dont fancy it either - it looks horrible


I remember it was nice cold with Vinegar and Onions...:) Not sure if I'd eat it today, got very soft sin leaving home. :o

SPUGGIE J 21-03-2007 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 400455)
I remember it was nice cold with Vinegar and Onions...:) Not sure if I'd eat it today, got very soft sin leaving home. :o

You have forgotten whats good for you thats all. ;)

Doug 21-03-2007 00:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 400458)
You have forgotten whats good for you thats all. ;)

:D ................

entwisi 21-03-2007 06:49

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Heh, I took some tripe into work for our Philipino colleagues to try (After they had force fed one of our lads Ballut when he was over there!).

I quite like it and actually Mancie its already cooked when you buy it. Its been boiled and bleached normally.

OX toungue isn't that expensive either. They sell it at Tescos and its no where near as expensive as rare cooked angus beef or even teh proper roasted Ham on the bone.(my mum buys tongue every week).

However, whilst I'm happy to eat tripe I can't get my head around effectively french kissing a cow! :D

Ianto.W. 21-03-2007 11:32

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Quote:

entwisi, OX toungue isn't that expensive either. They sell it at Tescos and its no where near as expensive as rare cooked angus beef or even teh proper roasted Ham on the bone.(my mum buys tongue every week).
Not having the advantage of access to a Tesco supermarket Ian, I will have to take your word that Ox Tongue is cheaper than 'rare cooked Angus Beef', and the 'real Roast Ham on the bone' which I would dearly love to get my plastic choppers round, but unfortunateley they to are out of my reach.:D

Lolly 21-03-2007 11:33

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My brother works on Alltons Fruit & Veg stall on the market and on his dinner break went to Peggys, and Gordon came and sat with him for his dinner (Gordon had Cheese Pie) he said he was a very nice bloke. He's got a good picture with him. Hes still in town because he said he was going to go to the Stanley game.

Anyway tripe is bloody awful!!! Even if it is cooked by Gordon Ramsay!!!!

AccyMad 21-03-2007 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 400537)
My brother works on Alltons Fruit & Veg stall on the market and on his dinner break went to Peggys, and Gordon came and sat with him for his dinner (Gordon had Cheese Pie) he said he was a very nice bloke. He's got a good picture with him. Hes still in town because he said he was going to go to the Stanley game.

Anyway tripe is bloody awful!!! Even if it is cooked by Gordon Ramsay!!!!

What, so he's staying till Saturday??? - Unless he meant he's going to the reserve game tonight.
Oh and my view on tripe, definately should never be cooked:D - can't beat honeycombe tripe with all the holes filled up wi' vinegar

WillowTheWhisp 21-03-2007 12:39

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What do they bleach it with?

Ianto.W. 21-03-2007 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 400563)
What do they bleach it with?

I would imagine the same stuff you use to whiten your whites or remove stains.

entwisi 21-03-2007 13:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 400536)
Not having the advantage of access to a Tesco supermarket Ian,

Your location says Accrington. I do believe I've seen it in the Tesco Express in .... Accrington. At worst its a short journey to Haslingden and even ASDA on Hyndburn Rd sell it. Then there is the cooked meat stall on the outside market. I can't recall it being particularly dear on there either.

Ianto.W. 21-03-2007 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 400570)
Your location says Accrington. I do believe I've seen it in the Tesco Express in .... Accrington. At worst its a short journey to Haslingden and even ASDA on Hyndburn Rd sell it. Then there is the cooked meat stall on the outside market. I can't recall it being particularly dear on there either.

It was the way you worded it that amused me Ian 'Rare Angus Beef' instead of Roast Beef, absolutly no offence intended;), is the Tesco Express the old filling station on Abbey St?

entwisi 21-03-2007 13:46

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yes its the Abbey St. petrol station,

The "rare angus beef" referred to roasted chunk of aberdeen angus moo cow cooked 'rare' rather than some mythical species of moo.

Ianto.W. 21-03-2007 21:19

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There once was a time Ian when my earning power far exeded yours, so the last thing I need is a lesson in the quality or type of food on offer at a market stall or an upper market in your opinion speciality counter this is not meant to insult your inteligence, as my reply was a 'tongue' in cheek answer.;)

flashy 21-03-2007 21:22

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ooooooooooooo handbags at the ready

slinky 21-03-2007 21:27

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I love tripe. I don't like it cooked.....I love it with plenty of salt and vinegar with chips......HMMMMMMMMMMM my mouth is watering at the thought :D:D

Gingers mum makes tripe and onions......and it's crap!!!



DON'T COOK TRIPE

ANNE 21-03-2007 21:45

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Tripe ewwwww yuk!

Ianto.W. 21-03-2007 21:48

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Quote:

slinky, I love tripe. I don't like it cooked.....I love it with plenty of salt and vinegar with chips......HMMMMMMMMMMM my mouth is watering at the thought
Let me know when your having it again slinky the wife and I will join you, I'll do the honours.:D

entwisi 22-03-2007 06:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 400910)
There once was a time Ian when my earning power far exeded yours, so the last thing I need is a lesson in the quality or type of food on offer at a market stall or an upper market in your opinion speciality counter this is not meant to insult your inteligence, as my reply was a 'tongue' in cheek answer.;)


Err, hang on there. At what point was earning power brought into this? I've never made a single reference to money either yours or mine(and I wonder how you know what my earning potential actually is??? ) or even quality of the food on offer. I referred to your statement about tongue being one of the most expensive cooked meats when plainly it isn't. I then offered you proof and possible savings and you come back like this.

flashy 22-03-2007 08:00

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ian and ian will you both behave please :D stop bitchin

entwisi 22-03-2007 08:37

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sorry flashy, for a moment I forgot you own the license to bitchin in AW :D

SPUGGIE J 22-03-2007 10:58

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Never mind the tripe for now what other offal foods do people like/dislike?

If tripe can cause so much fuss what about say liver kidneys ox heart?

I like all three. :D

entwisi 22-03-2007 11:30

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I liek all offal

Liver - Yum yum, same for kidneys, heart

I used to enjoy sheeps brains when you could still buy them.

Sweetbreads are OK in moderation.

Ianto.W. 22-03-2007 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 400987)
Err, hang on there. At what point was earning power brought into this? I've never made a single reference to money either yours or mine(and I wonder how you know what my earning potential actually is??? ) or even quality of the food on offer. I referred to your statement about tongue being one of the most expensive cooked meats when plainly it isn't. I then offered you proof and possible savings and you come back like this.

I agree Ian out of order with the income statement:o The point I first tried to make was as a young man they could hardly give tripe, tongue, and other offal products away, and now they are treated like luxury items because the price of meat is high, offal was mainly a food of our generation, as during rationing unless you could pay exhorbitant prices and risk a prison sentence buying it on the Black Market you ate offal as you would eat any other cut of meat, and did not even think it was different.:)

garinda 22-03-2007 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 401027)
sorry flashy, for a moment I forgot you own the license to bitchin in AW :D

Wrong!

She bought a temporary concession from me.;)

Lolly 03-07-2007 16:26

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Well i'm presuming that tonights episode of The F Word is the one in Accrington, because its the last episode of the series and in the TV mag it says "Gordon is cooking tripe"

9pm Channel 4

Lolly 03-07-2007 19:52

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Its on in 10mins anyone watching it??

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 19:54

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I've got a house full of teenagers so don't know if I'll manage it or not. What channel?

Mancie 03-07-2007 20:14

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Watching and it's said nowt about tripe in Accrington!.. I've been ringing people telling them Accy was gonna be on tellly...Lolly I hold you personally responsible if Accy aint on!:D

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 20:26

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Well it showed Accy market eventually although Mr Ramsey seems to think that the town is called Accrington Stanley! :D

Mancie 03-07-2007 20:34

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Yes it was on!.. the whole of the local Police Force (yes both of them) turned up to sample the bloody horrible looking cooked tripe he dished up.

West Ender 03-07-2007 20:46

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Damn! I missed this thread until it was too late so I missed the programme. I would have liked to see a bit of Accy.

Gordon Ramsay calls himself a cook? If he knew his onions he'd have served that tripe raw with salt, vinegar and black pepper, there's no finer dish for the connoisseur. I could eat it 'til the cows come home. :D

(It's 'orrible when it's cooked, though. It looks like snot, smells like dung and tastes like Dunlop tyres).

Lolly 03-07-2007 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443993)
Well it showed Accy market eventually although Mr Ramsey seems to think that the town is called Accrington Stanley! :D

I was confused by that also but his words were: "The town of Accrington Stanley" maybe he meant, the town that Accrington Stanley are from??

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 22:39

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Ah possibly, yes.

Those of you who didn't see it didn't miss much. It only showed the market and lots of empty stalls.

garinda 04-07-2007 00:20

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Did they mention Accrington being in Hyndburn?

No, thought not.:D

Mick 04-07-2007 05:32

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Did anyone see the Accyweb memer on the market yes Fireman was there watching Gordon . good one fireman

WillowTheWhisp 04-07-2007 06:43

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Yes I spotted him. I said to Busman "That's Fireman there!" and he said "Where?" and by the time he'd looked he'd gone! :D

grego 04-07-2007 09:11

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I was disappointed that he called the town Accrington Stanley, you think he'd have done his research, anyway I still wouldn't try tripe doesn't matter who cooks it, I do like the F word series though.

magpie 04-07-2007 12:07

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There is a bit of a write up and some pictures on the Accrington market Web Site...

Eric 04-07-2007 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panther (Post 400286)
ive never tried it with milk, ill keep that in mind:D

The mind is a good place to keep it ... I don't think that the stomach could take it.:eek:

panther 04-07-2007 13:13

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Gayle 04-07-2007 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 444101)
Did they mention Accrington being in Hyndburn?

No, thought not.:D


Does it matter?

No, thought not. :D

WillowTheWhisp 04-07-2007 13:29

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:D I think that was the point he was making Gayle - as in no need to waste money rebranding the borough.

garinda 04-07-2007 15:14

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Perhaps we can get Kim and Aggie to clean up the monstrous blue and white building, that is attached to the Town Hall, next.:rolleyes:

magpie 04-07-2007 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 444307)
Perhaps we can get Kim and Aggie to clean up the monstrous blue and white building, that is attached to the Town Hall, next.:rolleyes:

Na they should just knock that down.... and get nice new building with all the high rates we pay, they can afford it:

WillowTheWhisp 05-07-2007 09:03

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No Magpie they are saving all that money to pay for the renaming of the borough which they are trying to convince us isn't going to cost anything.


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