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Lolly 21-03-2007 11:49

The Budget
 
Coverage has just started of Gordon Browns final budget. Here you can post your thoughts on it also what you would like to see.

I prefer it if there was not a lot put on beer because that causes me a shed load of grief at work. lol.

lancsdave 21-03-2007 11:51

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I'd prefer it if he just read a list of the changes instead of waffling :D

Lolly 21-03-2007 11:54

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Yep, I agree. I need a Dummies Guide to the Budget!! lol.

tadah 21-03-2007 12:05

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When the fuel duty is annouce which it just as by 2p when will fuel price go up?

Neil 21-03-2007 12:07

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I think it is usually midnight today

spud 21-03-2007 12:11

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I think raising fuel duty again is madness, especially when it's at the price it is now!

lancsdave 21-03-2007 12:12

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Is it not 6pm when petrol prices normally go up ?

Lolly 21-03-2007 12:13

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Quote:

Beer will rise by 1p a pint from midnight Sunday, cider by 1p a litre, wine by 5p a bottle and sparkling wine by 7p. Duty on spirits will be frozen.
Well I suppose this is not too bad, Should keep the drunkards of Ossy quite happy.

spud 21-03-2007 12:13

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That won't help him(brown) in future election if he does take no.10., just the usual, he hasn't wacked the motorists yet has he?:mad:

tadah 21-03-2007 12:24

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Well ive just put £20 in my road rocket and it was 91.9p while on my way home from work at 11am today was 89.9p so its just gone up lol

Lolly 21-03-2007 12:33

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11p on Cigarettes!!!!!! :eek:

I'm not ready to give up yet!! But at this rate I may have to!

WillowTheWhisp 21-03-2007 12:35

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Did I hear correctly that income tax is going down?

tadah 21-03-2007 12:36

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I thought i was hearing things but he really did say DOWN! LOL

lancsdave 21-03-2007 12:46

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 400559)
11p on Cigarettes!!!!!! :eek:

I'm not ready to give up yet!! But at this rate I may have to!

He has also reduced the vat on patches from 17.5% to 5%. Should have got rid of it altogether, might have encouraged a few more.

lancsdave 21-03-2007 12:49

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 400560)
Did I hear correctly that income tax is going down?


But he is scrapping the lower rate of tax so it's really an headline making spin but he is taking back what he is giving.

entwisi 21-03-2007 12:50

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yep people will not be any better off for the tax 'cut'

cashman 21-03-2007 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tadah (Post 400551)
Well ive just put £20 in my road rocket and it was 91.9p while on my way home from work at 11am today was 89.9p so its just gone up lol

well dont think that was the budget tadah, just heard on tv fuel prices do not increase until october. (thats a first)lol

entwisi 21-03-2007 13:49

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He has increased the threshold for top rate tax to £43K as well which should keep a few extra people out of teh 40% band.

lancsdave 21-03-2007 14:16

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 400589)
He has increased the threshold for top rate tax to £43K as well which should keep a few extra people out of teh 40% band.


Anyone know what an MP's salary has been raised to ? Wouldn't be £42,999 would it :rolleyes:

chav1 21-03-2007 14:25

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Originally Posted by tadah (Post 400545)
When the fuel duty is annouce which it just as by 2p when will fuel price go up?

petrol stations put their petrol up already a few weeks ago , some a lot more than others ( tesco cough) and will raise them again at midnight today so that they can get double the increase and then reduce it in a few weeks to make it look like they are doing us a great favour

its the same with some shops and the ciggrettes they usualy put up teh price of fags then add a few extra pence after the budget as well :rolleyes:

accymel 21-03-2007 14:39

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A load of crap as per usual - rich get richer poor get poorer & nothing done as promised!:mad:

Lolly 21-03-2007 14:42

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The BBC have a Budget Calculator here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...calculator.stm

According to this I'm going to be £303.02 better off in the next year.

accymel 21-03-2007 14:48

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That was crap it says i would be £129.32 better off next year - yet they have included CTC which i dont get as seperate so no comparrision:(

chav1 21-03-2007 14:51

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 400614)
The BBC have a Budget Calculator here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...calculator.stm

According to this I'm going to be £303.02 better off in the next year.

ahhh but thats only if you get 4 balls on the lottery ;)

Lolly 21-03-2007 14:54

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 400619)
ahhh but thats only if you get 4 balls on the lottery ;)

Or stop playing those darn bandits!! lol. :p

accymel 21-03-2007 14:55

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Tho that would be for the year £129 so really wont see it anyway cos as he says it'll get taken out of the other hand - like child benefit - which i dont technically get as on IS they minus the CB out whereas everyone else gets it extra:(

entwisi 21-03-2007 14:57

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£140 worse off for me

Mainly fuel and NI

Dave, if only MP salaaries were that low :D , add probably what the majority of people in Accy earn to that figure and you will be a bit closer

Lolly 21-03-2007 15:00

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Thats the reason I couldnt claim IS between my job now and my last one. Because they wanted to go to the CSA but I refused so I wasnt allowed to claim it. Pathetic I know. But I didnt know they did it with CB too, thats crap Mel.

accymel 21-03-2007 15:15

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 400629)
Thats the reason I couldnt claim IS between my job now and my last one. Because they wanted to go to the CSA but I refused so I wasnt allowed to claim it. Pathetic I know. But I didnt know they did it with CB too, thats crap Mel.

Yes its blumming stupid & a waste of money giving it me in one account then taking it straight off me in another!! Thats what gets me sooo blumming mad:mad:

chav1 21-03-2007 15:54

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 400622)
Or stop playing those darn bandits!! lol. :p

yeah ive noticed your not that lucky on them lol

pretty good on the quizes though maybe if you stick to them you could be rich :D

Lolly 21-03-2007 15:56

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Originally Posted by chav1 (Post 400652)
yeah ive noticed your not that lucky on them lol

pretty good on the quizes though maybe if you stick to them you could be rich :D

I am. Just not when your around....... :confused: Apart from the Black Dog!

I'll have to stop playing them soon anyway, otherwise I won't be able to smoke!! lol.

andrewb 21-03-2007 16:55

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The 2p on fuel isn't going on yet hes delaying it till further in the year.

The tax cut wasn't really a cut, as I understand it it could cost lower income families more?

Nothing special, more money poured in to NHS, but it'll be wasted by management consultants rather than actual NHS staff, like it has for the past 10 years.

slinky 21-03-2007 18:13

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Next year, the indications are that you will be £563.72 worse off.


Why don't that surprise me :rolleyes:

shillelagh 21-03-2007 18:37

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Next year, the indications are that you will be £40.18 worse off.

And thats with no drinking and no car - just my fags!!!!

lindsay ormerod 21-03-2007 18:41

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Yay me ! Nice one Gordon ;if that calculator things right I will be £281 better off next year thanks to tax cut,child benefit and CTC, get in !:)

cashman 21-03-2007 20:50

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£80-11p worse off, but dont buy it at all, these calculators etc are just some geezer justifying his/her job. more crap!;)

harwood red 21-03-2007 20:51

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well it said

"Next year, the indications are that you will be £334.74 better off"

that'll do me thank you very much :D

shillelagh 22-03-2007 00:24

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I got a letter this morning saying my benefits going up in April - £3.45 a week so im not going to be that much better off am i?

Wynonie Harris 22-03-2007 07:43

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A brilliant piece of trickery from a master of the art. The cut in the standard rate of tax will be financed almost entirely by scrapping the 10p lower rate which Brown himself introduced.

Personally, I don't mind paying higher taxes for the likes of the NHS, provided it's used for more doctors, nurses, hospitals and the like. But, as Cyfr says, this government will use it for more management consultants and, of course, Tony's pet project - the nationwide NHS computerisation which is currently budgeted at a ruinous £12 billion and rising and whose value is questionable to say the least.

New Labour - same old spin.

garinda 22-03-2007 07:57

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Robbing Peter to pay Paul springs to mind.

Personally I'm in agreement with heavier taxes for gas guzzling 4x4's. Sorry to any Mummys that use them to ferry their little darlings to school.

entwisi 22-03-2007 08:21

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So what about Farmers and the like who need them for their business?

Plus one thing thats bandied about is the carbon footprint of them. yet the 4x4 market has the largest percentage of LPG converted vehicles out there which makes them less carbon polluting than a standard saloon car. You see there is hype and sensationlism all over. read a bit further into it and you start to uncover the truth.

We've also already done the " Europe can go squat if we continue to let China grow at such an astronomical rate"

Its a tax raising initiative with the 'blame' being put on the current sexy target of green initiatives.

garinda 22-03-2007 08:30

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 401014)
So what about Farmers and the like who need them for their business?


People that actually need them for what they were designed for are a different thing.

Besides, farmers are already heavily subsidised by handouts from the EEC, so they should be able to pay for increase in taxation.;)

entwisi 22-03-2007 08:34

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You seem to have forgotten to comment on the latter part of my post ;)

garinda 22-03-2007 08:37

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 401024)
You seem to have forgotten to comment on the latter part of my post ;)


I didn't forget.

I never forget.:D

I saw no need to comment, as it didn't seem worthy of comment.;)

entwisi 22-03-2007 08:48

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so you agreed with it then :D

panther 22-03-2007 09:29

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I see car tax is £300 for big cars!! going up to £400 by 2008
and normal tax for older cars has cone up to £99 for 6 month £180 for 12...daylight robbery!

entwisi 22-03-2007 09:57

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I find it frustrating that people talk about 'Big cars' when its actually nowt to do with thesize of thecar, its about the emmisions it produces that count. Some 'big' cars are actually very friendly to the environment.

Panther, I'm missing your logic on the second statement, surely 99x2 =198 so 180 for 12 months is a £20 drop :confused:

panther 22-03-2007 10:05

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yeh i know but its still a rip off:D

jambutty 24-03-2007 12:06

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Now that the Budget dust has settled and the ‘experts’ have dissected Brown’s budget proposals, Brown should have free entry to the Magic Circle as the top magician.

The Budget has been a brilliant piece of sleight of hand but fortunately the ‘experts’ have seen through it.

No doubt there are a few winners but there are far more losers.

According to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...calculator.stm I will be about £2 per week worse off.

Just one question – does anyone want such a devious person as a future PM?

It has been bad enough with Blair spinning away for all he’s worth but now we have the prospect of more to come with Brown.

Fortunately his time is limited, always assuming that he does become PM, but the alternative after that does nothing for me.

Neil 24-03-2007 12:17

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Next year, the indications are that you will be £711.91 better off.

I will believe it when I see it :D

Ianto.W. 24-03-2007 12:35

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The annual rise in my incapaciy allowance will not buy me a pint of beer, but craftily keeps me a pound over being able to claim pension credit, If the good Lord spares me and I reach my 65th birthday in December, I only hope there are no other pitfalls awaiting me. It is my dearest wish to be able to draw 1 weeks pension paid for by by a lifetime of work, and just maybe this elusive Pension Credit also as my income will reduce.
How do you budget £1.30 Mr. Brown?

Kisser 26-03-2007 09:47

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According to that calculator I will be £71.83 worse off :( :( Mainly due to the fuel increase.


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