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steeljack 27-03-2007 23:39

Drunk women can consent to sex
 
Bit of a continuance of Mani's thread about why women can't control themselves/ female behaviour while out . An appeal judge has just ruled (along with two female associate justicies ) that a woman cannot cry rape and use the excuse that she was drunk when the event happened but other factors have to be considered

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...27/nrape27.xml

Where you you folks , male and female stand on this subject ?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

chav1 27-03-2007 23:51

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if you dont wanna get laid when drunk then the answer is simple

dont drink

its rape because i was drunk is on level with its not my fault the car crashed i was drunk

Ianto.W. 27-03-2007 23:57

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Difficult to comment on this thread steeljack, the defendant was described as of previous good character, but says nothing about the lady concerned, which I find disturbing. The fact that the judges did not order a retrial and quashed the conviction is grossly unfair to the lady concerned, as it makes her look the villain of the case.

Less 28-03-2007 00:23

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I always thought they had to be drunk first, isn't that the Mating ritual?

Or am I just so pugg ugly that's the only way they will say yes?:cool:

chav1 28-03-2007 01:33

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 404265)
I always thought they had to be drunk first, isn't that the Mating ritual?

contary to belief half a lager dosnt get a woman drunk , you have just got lucky and landed easy women

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 404265)
Or am I just so pugg ugly that's the only way they will say yes?:cool:

nail on head :D

SPUGGIE J 28-03-2007 06:47

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What about when its found not to be rape and the poor guy is all over the papers yet she who cried wolf is protected by law from being named and shamed? Granted there are cases that are genuine but its tose under the influence that make it harder for the genuine victims to get justice.

panther 28-03-2007 09:39

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I think it depends how drunk she is!!
if shes totally legless then the man should lay off because shes too 'out of it' if shes not that drunk and she says yes it means yes and if she says NO it means No!!

but there are some women out there who get ****ed and 'regret it' after and then cry rape...god knows why??

so fellas if a woman is too drunk dont go near!! cuz she aint a clue what she is doing! and to me that means you are desparate :p

tadah 28-03-2007 11:36

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I dont care how much you drink you can still make decisions. Ive been completely **** faced but i can still make choices. If a woman cries rape and is found out to be lying then i think she should be on the front page of the papers for the public to see what a little bi7ch she is.

WillowTheWhisp 28-03-2007 11:46

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Originally Posted by tadah (Post 404332)
I dont care how much you drink you can still make decisions.

If a woman is so drunk that she doesn't know who she is, where she is or what day it is then she is far from capable of making decisions but what is often overlooked is that the man is usually drunk too. If they've been out drinking together and end up in bed together then I don't think it should be classed as rape. That's an insult to genuine rape victims who have put up a struggle against a brutal physical attack.

tadah 28-03-2007 11:52

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Like i said i dont care! Everyone can make decisions, and if they are so pished like that then they should drink more responsilbly shouldnt they!

Less 28-03-2007 11:54

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Just a minute here, a woman that is so ratarsed that she can't make sense in her own head, can shout and scream after she sobers up and gets those 'guilty' feelings of I shouldn't have done that, and have a man prosecuted for rape.

Can the man not say in his defence, of course she was drunk but let's be honest your honour, I must have been in an even worse state of drunkeness or I wouldn't have touched her with yours never mind mine therefore I was in no fit condition to say no myself I am also a victim of too much alchohol?

Lets be honest anyone that gets into such a condition that they cannot control their own mind or body, male or female should consider medical help before they blame others for the situation they get themselves into.:(

tadah 28-03-2007 11:57

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To true less. I have no sympathy for people who get that drunk.

Less 28-03-2007 12:05

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Originally Posted by tadah (Post 404341)
To true less. I have no sympathy for people who get that drunk.

I'll over-drink to that! :D

tadah 28-03-2007 12:20

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I have no sympathy for you less!!!!

panther 28-03-2007 12:44

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when i go out, i go out to have a laugh!, not to get laid!!

tadah 28-03-2007 12:45

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Probably a good thing :D

Less 28-03-2007 17:08

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 404354)
when i go out, i go out to have a laugh!, not to get laid!!

Me too, but if I do get laid I look on it as a bonus not something to complain about afterwards, I always have enough sense to say yes if I want to and no if I don't, anyone that becomes incapable of making that choice because of drink shouldn't drink for their own safety.
:p

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2007 20:13

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I was always under the impression that a man who was 'legless' as you put it, would be severely limited in his ability to stand to attention.........and if anyone has ever tried shoving a marshmallow into a money box....well, you'll know what I mean.
Personally i have never ever been SO drunk that I haven't known what I was doing........Have I lead a sheltered life do you think?

mrskitty 28-03-2007 20:48

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 404521)
and if anyone has ever tried shoving a marshmallow into a money box....well, you'll know what I mean.

Personally i have never ever been SO drunk that I haven't known what I was doing........Have I lead a sheltered life do you think?

That marshmallow comment is mint margaret lol Karma for that!
Can i use that in the future please?(hopefully i wont need to haha)

And i too have never been 'that drunk'(and i have certainly not lived a sheltered life IMO),i think its all about knowing your limits.

Ianto.W. 28-03-2007 22:34

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The marshmallow, that is one from the typing pool Margaret:D, I sleep with a drunken woman on a regular basis as long as she keeps her imagination and to her side of the bed it's ok by me. How anyone could derive any satisfaction or expect to give the same to anyone stinking of drink, and probably Garlic is quite beyond me, yuck.

slinky 28-03-2007 22:37

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 404521)
I was always under the impression that a man who was 'legless' as you put it, would be severely limited in his ability to stand to attention.........and if anyone has ever tried shoving a marshmallow into a money box....well, you'll know what I mean.
Personally i have never ever been SO drunk that I haven't known what I was doing........Have I lead a sheltered life do you think?

Roflmao!!!! oh that is classic :D:D:D

cherokee 28-03-2007 22:40

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and if anyone has ever tried shoving a marshmallow into a money box....well, you'll know what I mean.


:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38:


:eek: omg margaret that comment is just so funny:D

Ianto.W. 29-03-2007 04:02

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 404590)
and if anyone has ever tried shoving a marshmallow into a money box....well, you'll know what I mean.


:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38:


:eek: omg margaret that comment is just so funny:D

When last I heard that one, it was girl from the typing pool explaining the results of the honeymoon to her former workmates, as she had married the the ageing boss.:D

grego 29-03-2007 06:20

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I think any woman has to be responsible for their actions drunk or not, I dont think its fair for them to cry rape just because they regret their actions, on the flip side I think men should also assess the situation, surely a man can tell if a women is too drunk and if in doubt dont do it. As for women who unfairly cry rape well I think they should be named and shamed and also charged.
The frightening thing though is there will be some low lifes who will now take advantage of someone drunk knowing they will get away with it!

davo69 29-03-2007 07:32

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bottle of vodka no marshmellows needed lol.

ladies :stop: dont get drunk!

garinda 29-03-2007 10:52

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Unless someone has their drinks spiked, which is a different issue, women should be responsible for their actions, drunk or not.

If anyone drinks too much you have to live with the consequences, regardless of gender.

Margaret Pilkington 29-03-2007 19:30

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Originally Posted by misskitty (Post 404532)
That marshmallow comment is mint margaret lol Karma for that!
Can i use that in the future please?(hopefully i wont need to haha)

And i too have never been 'that drunk'(and i have certainly not lived a sheltered life IMO),i think its all about knowing your limits.

Yes, of course you can use that comment. I have never worked in a typing pool....and I can't exactly remember where I heard that saying.......but happy to have made a few of you on here smile.

Eric 05-04-2007 14:59

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 404354)
when i go out, i go out to have a laugh!, not to get laid!!

But it is nice when the two come together .... :Banane49: I think I made a Freudian slip!!!! Or an unintended double whatsitsname. Must be the snow thats coming down like crazy.


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