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ok firstly i want to say that i'm all for OAP/under-18 discounts - not as if they work etc

but there was an interesting piece on how package holidays were now coming under age-discrimination etc because of the new laws - hols such as the 18-30's

the convo went on how the group that was pushing for this was doing it for the oldies but said they didnt want to lose the privledges of OAP discounts etc

but surely if ur gonna apply one rule for one thing then the same should be applied

its not as if an oap at the cinema would take up less space than a full fare payer. or on the bus or the hairdressers etc

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Agree the pensioners have earned the right but I always thought that 18-30 was a niche market.

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I'm fed up, why just pensioners? I am quickly heading that way but whenever I turn to an 18 year old lady, she always says sod off you dirty old man, now is that discrimination? OF COURSE IT IS!:(

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:rolleyes:

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You can roll your eyes as many times as you like, but when I was a dirty young man they didn't object. :confused:

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Do you think being single should comes under some sort of discrimination too ? .. they don't half load the price. Even the 'singles holidays' are still loaded. Course understand this business wise, not spending as much money on the other facilities, but now most hotels just charging for the rooms , much better idea, if there is a family in that room .. but maybe still should get a discount if only me in the room . :confused: Bit like council tax really, but at least get a discount there for being one occupant.

As for the 18-30's .. I think a great idea, keeps them away from us pensioners and holiday companies can furnish their programme accordingly.
Never felt, in any way, discriminative. Some people, eh ?

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Single room supplement is the most unjustifiable charge ever thought up. Several times I have paid extra to have a room smaller than my bathroom, where I was 'under the eaves' so could only stand up in half of it!!!
I would love to go on a cruise but the single supplement mark up is 50%!!!
Singles ARE discriminated against, and since there are more and more singles around the holiday/hotel industry ought to get it sorted.
(Less -fancy a cruise? - do you have the 'black tie' outfit?)

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Think most rooms are now designed with at least a double/twin beds in them, but the cost of servicing a room does not cost any more, re linen, etc., in fact more.. more use of towels, etc.,when full occupancy ('cept the mini bar of course :D ) It is the money spent in the restaurants,etc., that is the deciding factor for these loadings.

At one time you could get a hotel room in the U.K. double with single occupancy rates; still more, but a compromise. However, talking abroad here and they are all designed for full occupancy on the whole. The argument will be that the single rate charge is the correct rate, but discounts for more people in the room .. weird.

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LOL .. more like the black t-shirt so doesn't show the beer stains.

Oh hek !! now I am in trouble .. his repartee can be somewhat cutting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm off.

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Kate - he isnt on line this minute - the suspense is killing - wonder if he is going to the meet at the Queens - should be an interesting encounter (maybe a 'brief encounter') :D

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I have had some very 'pousy' single rooms AND paid over the odds for the privelege of having a room next to the lift/boiler room/anywhere else that is unsavoury and without a view.......and is so small I could almost go to the lav without getting out of bed, a room that is so small it has to be furnished with a doll sized teacup and kettle.....no room to store my suitcase...need I go on?

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Well, not sure what colour those are ... good innit talking behind his back.:p

Maybe we should get together Margaret .. I was lucky enough to go on a cruise with a friend last year, and no way could I have afforded it on my own. If you look, most shipping lines charge more than 50% around 75% excess. There are these offers from companies that specialise in singles, but usually get inside cabins and definitely would not consider without a balcony room .. just not the same. Pensioner discounts do not even come into the equation with holidays abroad .. well, not that I have noticed anyway.

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I haven't had pensioner discount on anything....but come next month I am going to have one of those NOW bus cards......and am I going to take advantage of it?

Ooh, I lied....I DID get a seniors discount to get into the Eden Project......It still wasn't worth the price.

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I will have to wait until I see whether those new teeth I am getting will be up to all those juicy fillet steaks which will be on the menu (slavering!!!)
I think Less might be feeling a bit intimidated by us single mature ladies discussing his underwear. He would have to pass a 'muster' test -ie -he mustn't have any cringe factor - I am hoping for too much from him?
I will put up with a lot from a man with a GSOH :D

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That could be classed as a chargeable extra in some hotels and very useful if you have been drinking all night :D

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Since we have to pass the time until Less returns to this thread-----
I have had a Now pass for along time - flat rate 50p -due to surgery on my rt foot. Coastlinks Express runs trips to Fleetwood, Clevelys, Blackpool, Morecambe, Southport -Last year over 60's could go for £1 return - this cheap rate was due to be abolished but Hyndburn residents are likely to have this cheap rate continued following a petition to the council (from a good reliable source - just happens to be an Ex of mine :D )

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Yes, I have been told that too....and I was told recently by a coach driver that we will be able to use these cards nationally within the next year.
That would be good, as I take my disabled mum to the Isle of Wight and the public transport there is very expensive

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Well, I'll meet the 'Over 60's' criteria come June....so I think I might just take advantage of some of those rides out.

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I only once booked a single room at a hotel in Malta. Having paid extra, as one must, I found the room was tiny and I would have had to move the bed to get at the ironing board. I complained, loud and long, to the hotel management and next day they gave me a beautiful double room at no extra cost.

I go to Malta regularly, choice of 3 hotels, and as I usually go April and/or October I don't pay any single suplement on a double or twin room. I've learned that complaining if things are not right - and sticking to my guns - works wonders but I very rarely have anything to complain about.

I think they should leave 18 -30 holidays alone. I like to know which resorts cater for them, so I can avoid them. :D That's one of the reasons I like Malta - Club 18-30 don't go there.

Finally, discounts for pensioners. The only place I get one is B & Q where I have a card to get 10% off. Everything else seems to get more expensive, like BUPA which I had to give up when I turned 60 and went semi-retired. Their charges go higher the older you get and it was becoming astronomical. Also next year I will probably have to pay more for my holiday insurance as I will be 65 in January. Presumably they think that after my birthday I will be far more likely to drop dead on holiday. It's the excitement, you know, being in "furrin parts" at such an advanced age. :rolleyes:

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I dont mind being charged extra when I get a double room with double the towels and double the tea and coffee ration, but those poky single rooms are no better than dungeons.
I must add that I have only found them in UK hotels.

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Not really discrimination ... just shows that she is sober and has 20/20 vision:eek:

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LOL - oooh Eric your wit never ceases to captivate me -:iloveyou:

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Less -see what happens when you keep a lady waiting -(ficlke b****ds aren't we ?)

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In answer to the above questions:-

Yes, I have a black tie outfit I always wear it on special occasions such as when out creosoting the fence.

I also have a black tie that goes with my black tea shirts for the times when I have to go to funerals of dear friends that I have outlived. (funerals are appearing a lot more often on my social calendar these days unfortunately, so be warned!).

As for the implication that I wear black t-shirts to hide the beer stains,
How dare you madam! I don't spill beer, (I do however find black is a good colour against curry stains).

The colour of my briefs should not be discussed in polite society, it is for that reason I always turn up at accyweb meets, COMMANDO.

As for single room surcharges, don't be a 'billy no mates', always go with a friend.
:p

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18-30 is definitely a niche market, I never went on them (even when I was 18-30). I cannot stand holiday reps, who are full of false peppiness in order to get you to go on beer cruises to supplement their income by selling trips. I do think that OAPs should get some discounts, IMO, if I live long enough to be an OAP I reckon I'll have earned a discount or 2.

Single supplement is the biggest rip off ever, I have taken many holidays on my own in the past, due to being single and having holidays at odd times of the year. I have always insisted that I will not pay single supplement and have got away with it. If a travel company is desperate to sell a last minute holiday they will waive the supplement if you tell them you won't pay it..:D

Fortunately these days I have Sparks...... and can normally persuade him that a holiday is a good idea, so I haven't had to do my 'I won't pay SS' in the travel agents for ages.:)

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although i have & drive a car i use my NOW CARD for a day out with my mates get on a bus return only a pound can't beat it plus it restrict you on how much you can buy (he he ) as for single supplements on holiday, i suppose im lucky ive got a few friends i can nag into coming away with me so ive had no use for them, ...but i do think its unfair to charge just because your on your own i agree with lettie stick to your guns & don't pay it .

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that whole £1 thing is a national govt scheme - it was trialed - it worked ubt for some reason it ended and its still being bought into action sometime soon

but its a new nationwide scheme to get oap's into buses

they're too dangerous in cars - i was on hte mway and there was some old guy driving a HUGE merc at 50 in the 2nd lane even though the first was empty

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Mani....I think that is a huge generalisation there......yes SOME pensioners are dangerous......but not all. I don't think you should lump them all together. There are some very safe older drivers....and some of them have been driving on the roads for many years without any mishaps.

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What can one say margaret you like the rest of them ,you have worked hard for what you have got and payed your tax,s you are entitled to it

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I've got to get this off my chest. ;)

I'm over 60 - a "pensioner" and I refuse to be catagorised as an "O A P". I am not old, don't look old, don't act old, don't feel old. I will happily put up my mental faculties against any of you who are a good deal younger than me - and give you a head start to make it fair. :D

I get so tired of hearing scathing comments about older people, how slow, how befuddled, how pathetic we are supposed to be. Yes, when I was a child, most women the age I am now acted old and looked it but I've got news for you. I'm not into shawls and hairnets and rocking chairs by the fire. I'm not round and roly-poly or skinny and stick-like, I don't wear shapeless clothes or fluffy slippers, I still work for a living and I don't drive like a dithering old idiot. OK? :mad:

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OOOh was Mani being ageist? http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...milies/eek.gif

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now now

take it easy

have a sit down... there we go...

cup of cocoa sir?

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And I applied for my state pension today..........and believe me I don't feel a day over 25.
Young people out there......you too will be a pensioner one day.......and it comes round very quickly.
Like West Ender.....I don't think I look my age......I certainly have an active and enquiring mind and I am not a wrinkly dodderer.

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And I don't drink Cocoa !

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*LOL*

slippers?

a good book perhaps? war and peace may i recommend?

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I don't mind the Peace, but you can keep the war....and I wear Crocs....not slippers. :)

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I didn't mind the cocoa bit - it was the "sir" that got me. I'm not a Sir, Mani, I'm a Ma'am.

I suppose one advantage of being older is you become more tolerant of the young. Well, either that or you belt them round the ear hole. :rolleyes:

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:D I'm not a 'sir' either.

Re: Age discrimination...bus update
 

I have resurrected this thread to update Hyndburn pensioners about the cheap rate coast bus. It is available at £1 return ONLY for Hyndburn NoW pass holders, and ONLY to Blackpool/Clevelys/Fleetwood X82 service. If you fancy changing to the Southport or Morecambe bus when it gets to Blackburn you will have to pay the extra.(unless you have the disabled 'Flat rate' type pass).

This is causing some misunderstandings and extra work for drivers who now have to check your tickets and NoW pass when you change buses on the Boulevard.

Peter Britcliffe extended last year's cheap rate for the X82 service only. Pensioners from outside Hyndburn dont get it, so passengers who live outside Hyndburn feel hard done by.

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Old age is a disease, it's contageous every woman/man/boy/girl on this site will catch it if they wake up tomorrow. Some of you will carry the disease longer than others, nowt painfull about it, in fact it can be damn good fun at times if used to ones advantage, half price hair cuts or a good polishing if you have none free bus travel free prescriptions. I could go on all night extolling the virtues of old age, the only thing your's truly misses about being young is a damn good j***p.:D

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Now now what would the PC brigade have to say about that eh?

threats to the young? tsk tsk :P