Harry Not Going To Iraq
 

They wont let him go, says he is a target and a danger to others serving with him!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...266073,00.html

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Every soldier is a target. Now tell me he aint getting preferencial treatment the mardy baby!!! What did he join the army for to party with his pals or do the same as others join for?

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They say its not his choice he wants to go but they saying he cannot go it has just said he is very unhappy about!

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i dont see the point of him bein in the army then

surely u join the army not to b left in the uk when ur regiment goes out.

what would b cool is if he does go but the press only get told once he's served his term

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The insurgents would know were to find him any as the press wouldnt be far away. They would follow him like a dog follows a bitch on heat.

Two min visit and they could say he has been to Iraq.

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He would have been so proud.:D

http://www.nndb.com/people/540/00004...eshewitt02.jpg

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If he cant go to Iraq then 6 months in Belize or even better the Falklands would do. Neither place is known for its parties and heavy nightlife. :D

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who is dad ? :rofl38:

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spuggie - well surely if they can keep a visit by tony blair/bush secret they can keep his wearabouts secret and legally keep the press away... nah?

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he should quit if he is not allowed to do the job he went in for

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I can imagine the old biddies in the queues now.."ooh that prince Harry,wanted to fight for his country you know,but the army would'nt let him.Real hero,he was.Not like rest of 'em,no"
So there you go;hero if he goes,hero if he does'nt.:rolleyes:

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I understand the reason why he can't serve in Iraq.:rolleyes: All I question now is should he be in the army at all. What use is an army man who can't be deployed?:confused:

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I agree Panther, maybe it shouldn't have become common knowledge.

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I don't think it's his decision. He should stick by his word and quit though which is what he said last time he was asked.

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He should go and tell me why he did not go at the beginng my nephew did when the war started at first but they harry out then did they things must quite for him to go

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I think,Willow, it is because the basics of this war are very different....the tactics of the enemy are more like the tactics of guerilla warfare.
I can't say that I am surprised at this outcome....and rather than parents of service personnel howling about their children being worth less than the Queen's son, they need to get it into perspective....that if Harry had been allowed onto the front line, then their sons would have been at even more of a risk......all the insurgents would come out of the woodwork to try to be the one that blew the Queen of England's son to kingdom come.

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well said margaret couldn,t of put it better myself totally agree with you

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Thanks for that lilly. It certainly makes sense to me.
And IF Harry doesn't like it, then he should do what he has threatened all along, and resign his commission

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is that not what this war needs get them out in the open then deal with them my sisters lad came back from iraq couple of months ago he got dis armed him and two of is regerment and whent on the run lucky to get away with there lives he is no suffering .back home but is reg want him to go back if you are in something you should be in no half measures

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AL QUIADA, cant abide royalty, but it was the only sensible road to go down. should imagine most
of the serving soldiers will feel a bit safer.

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must make them feel why they have not been given same protection

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The Army/MOD's explanation was although Andrew faced real danger in the Falklands, the risk of kidnap, because of who he was, was minimal, compared to the situation in Iraq.

Perhaps he can be one of those soldiers in the sentry boxes, outside his Grannies. The only danger there is from over familar American tourists.:D

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gotta say both were terrible, but how long has iraq gone on in comparrison. plus they were not fighting insurgents in the falklands, at least you knew who the enemy were,dont make it any better for friends of mine that lost loved ones in the falklands, but i would still maintain iraq is a damn sight worse.

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if its good for harry then we should pull all are troops out and give all them protection..........but after all did they not go in to protect.

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Like no one else is

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Seems he's damned if he does go and damned if he doesn't. At the end of the day it should be his and his regiment's decision, if the rest of his men would feel safer without Harry with them because there would be increased danger to the rest of them with him there then that's how it should be but that should be down to them to decide.

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thats way too sensible an idea to EVER be considered.;)

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The poor chap is in a no win situation as was said earlier, the royalty only pay lip service to the armed forces, to justify the wearing of the uniform on official parades. It is in my opinion a sensible decision as 'our lad's' would only have been placed in a more war escalated position, lets face it the royals are not even safe here never mind in those cesspits. He's done all the 'hard' work after all we all know how tough it is at Sandhurst.:rolleyes:

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Because, as a helicopter pilot, Andrew’s chances of becoming a casualty of war were virtually nil.

If the monarchy had been disbanded years ago as many people thought it should have been, this problem would not have arisen.

The solution today or rather yesterday would have been not to allow any of the royals to join the armed forces.

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True but we have to find something for these layabouts to do. I dont think being roving ambasadors would help either.

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He has a real job. The fact is the generals and politicians have stopped him from doing it. Or don't you ever read the news, Jambutty?

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They are saying some military figures said he had lost credibility in the service and predicted he would ultimately resign his commission.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...266152,00.html

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You can certainly say that some of the royals only pay lip service to the armed forces but I really don't think you can say that about Harry. He seems to have been really committed to it and worked hard. Think we have to cut him some slack on this, I don't think it's his fault that he can't go.

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I have had rather mixed feelings about this...

first of all when all this came out i was all for him going to iraq.. but as time has materialised im now well and truly against it and the decision made is appropiate.
As you all know my son is in the army and like many other mothers on here who have sons serving then im sure im not alone.
I am more than relieved that harry is not going to iraq, not only for his own safety but mainly for the safety of his fellow lads whom he has trained with and become a family within themselves..

The media have made it impossible for him to go , THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN INFORMED..but i still feel that ,,umm wasnt that the intention of the royal family to let them know ? knowing the outcome...

If my son were serving along side of harry then i would have been on pins ..Its not Harrys fault .. the firm knew what they were doing and harry is just another skittle to knock down... build him up make him feel worthwhile then make it impossible for him to carry out his duties by publicising his intentions.... umm royals ..get rid ...

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A reassuring statement , Maybe you should tell that to a someone who uses this sight on a regular basis and lost her husband whilst he was piloting a helicopter gunship out there (Falklands) 25 years ago this weekend . :( :( :(

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Has anyone thought about this from the other angle?

If Harry did go then in might draw out more insurgents to be dealt with. I thought part of the problem over there was no one to shoot at most of the time. Harry would be good 'bait' and might actually help.

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i cant see the point of not letting him go its not as if he is next in line to the throne, and if he does get shot its not much of a waste,as every soldier who has been to iraq runs the same risk of being shot,pity they dont send his dad charlie boy,then if he gets shot at least this country will get a decent king with willy boy.

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He's not being sent according to the Army because of the increased risk to the men under his control. It's nothing to do with his place in the line of succession to the throne. The late Duke of Kent, Prince George, was killed whilst serving in the last World War.

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Whether you agree with him being sent to Iraq or not, here's an excerpt from the statement made by General Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff.

There have been a number of specific threats – some reported and some not reported - which relate directly to Prince Harry as an individual. These threats place not only him but also those around him to a degree of risk that I now deem unacceptable. Now that I have decided that he will not be deploying with his Troop, the risks faced by his Battlegroup are no different to those faced by any other Battlegroup or other of our Servicemen in Iraq.

Full statement:http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...eptableCgs.htm

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prince george was killed in a flying accident when is plane crashed in scotland,not really a war victim more of a casualty of bad flying in bad weater conditions,and lets face it every soldier in a war zone situation is at risk even if harry does,nt go, it was even worse in n.ireland even the kids threw things at you,one minute they are your friend and the next tey are chucking bricks at you,if you join the army you expect to run the risk of being sent to a war zone,if you are born with a silver spoon in your mout or not

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I don't think Harry had a problem going to war, more the people around him...he is supposedly very disappointed and concerned about where that leaves him regarding his career in the forces!!

I have mixed emotions about him going or not going but do think it was more about putting his fellow soldiers at increased risk

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Speaking from my own experience, and not a newspaper report, the present Duke of Kent was a Captain in the Royal Scotts Greys, when I was in the Royal Signals, seconded to the 4/7 Dragoon Guards. This scruffy 'officer' inspected us on 'Muster Parade', he stopped at my side and said "what were you before you joined the army trooper" I said "signalman sir, happy". Do not ask how long I was on 'Jankers', royals my backside!

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That was gross insubordination. I trust you were on jankers for a very long time

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You should know what contribution these royals give to the armed forces Teleaf, if the idiot had have got my title right in the first place I would have been more polite. That clown did not know the difference between a trooper and a signaler!

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That's still no excuse for giving lip to a Rupert.

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When I were in Rupert was a very appropriate name for them, I assume anyone can be one now not so in my day i'm afraid.;)

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It also put's me in mind of what I said to the SQMS when I was 'clearing camp'he said"what are you going to do now your leaving the army son" I said"cartwheels down that road":D.