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Bowley Scout Camp Rapist!
Michael Drinkwater, 36, is beginning an indefinite jail sentence after he admitted first attacking his victim when she was just 13 years old.
He raped her 14 times over two years and also indecently assaulted her 13-year-old friend at Bowley Scout camp in Great Harwood. Burnley Crown Court heard how Drinkwater, of Exchange Street, Accrington used sex toys and "dirty dare games" and thought there was nothing wrong with his behaviour. ...and this man could be back on the streets in under 5 years - Scout Camp Sex Fiend Jailed (from This Is Lancashire) Should people like this ever be released? What are the alternatives? Suz x. |
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I don't like the idea of him being on the loose again in 5 years.
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dont like the thought of him being released,as i live close to exchange st,he should have got life,
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I have the same feelings as everyone else about this but I wonder why it went on for 2 years without the girl ever reporting his actions. Surely if she was so upset by what was happening she would have, at the very least, kept away from him. The article says it only came to light when he texted one of her friends and she told what she knew. It doesn't excuse him in the least but it does seem an odd situation.
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Strikes me as very odd too;I know the bloke from years ago and he was always quiet and unassuming;I would say shy to be honest. You have to wonder why the victim kept going back ? How can you be raped that many times? It doesn't make sense to me. I am not making a judgement (before anyone leaps on me) but it seems odd.
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Get the impression too that this bloke was slightly mentally backward .. only an assumption of course.
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sorry, but the girl could have been frightened or anything we dont know, what i do know is the slime bag should be casterated, or crushed under a rock.5 yrs is a joke.:(
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Perhaps the girl didn't tell anyone because she was afraid to? Perhaps he'd warned her not to talk about it? I know of a family whose daughter was sexually assaulted and they only found out years later when something else came to light. She had always been too afraid to tell because he was a trusted family friend and he had warned her that she would be the one who would be punished.
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Rape is Rape! 13yrs is 13yrs, it dont get any simpler than that.
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If it's an illness then money should be supplied to ensure they are taught right from wrong, if however, it is an incurable ailment then surely they should face the ultimate penalty to protect the innocent. I, as most normal men, keep my body in check around children so should they! |
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It's easy, from a distance, to try and understand why people put up with continual abuse.
Why do, mainly women, continue to stay with violent and abusive partners? Bastards like this use every psychological trick at their disposal to carry on abusing. They target those they think they can control, confuse, and play on their fears, insecurities, and even their sexuality. I hope his fellow prisoners make his incarceration memorable. |
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I knew him when we were growing up. IIRC he was slightly deaf that seemed to make him come across as as Lindsey says "slightly backwards". I got the impression at that time that he 'played' on it
With regard to being a trusted position, I'm not sure if people who help with youth groups like scouts need to go through any form of checks. I was looking to do soem volunteering through work in schools to help with IT skills and had to do a CRB check before they were even interested in me applying. |
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I don't think that helpers must have to go through the CRB check. There are 'leaders' at a youth club my daughters have been going to and I don't think they have been screened - I know our Sunday School teachers aren't and yet I am a school governor and we are. I wonder where they draw the line?
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What do the screens even involve, is it just checking if you have a criminal record?
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Good point Cyfr. There may well be people who have done all manner of things but never been suspected who then go on to get clearance to work with children.
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When I did mine I had to provide info on where I had worked, where I had lived, any criminal convictions including motoring pointsand something else that escapes me at the moment. These are sent away and your past is double checked (I know as someone I hadn't seen in 10 years told me that they had received a call about me when I bumped into them in town)
As you said though, any accusations wouldn't come to light unless someone mentioned them and even then I guess it would only be hearsay |
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And if there had never even been any accusations? We will just never know how many people get away with abuse because no-one but the abused child ever knows.
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I guess thats the price we pay, flip it to the other side how would someone prove that they had never done anything that they could be acused of?
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OK, but lets look at this particular case, the guy in the opening post of this thread. If he'd had a CRB check would he have been rejected? I doubt it because no-one would have known that he'd be likely to do any of what he did until he actually did it would they?
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which was my point exactly. teh fact that he was presumed innocent meant even if he had been CRB'd then he would have been cleared. The point of my post was what could you do to protect against this, nothing springs into my mind
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My daughter is a Guider (Brown Owl for a local pack). Anyone who helps in any capacity, in Scouting/Guiding, has to be CRB checked first. She, herself, had to supply a copy of her own CRB certificate to my granddaughter's school when she volunteered to go on a school trip as a helper. As you rightly point out, though, the person who hasn't been caught has no record so someone could, in theory, have been getting away with abuse for decades - and still be regarded as "trustworthy".
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chop is bloody hands off and is togger see what he can play with then!!!!!!!!
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I thought that everyone who comes into contact through paid or voluntary work has to be CRB checked.At our church all the sunday school teachers are checked,all the brownie/guide leaders,choirmaster,anyone who works with children in whatever capacity,they're all CRB checked.In schools all the staff,including office staff and welfare are checked too. |
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The CRB check will show if they have any convictions, also if there is any intelligence held on them from the Police National Computer, the Dept for Education and Skills or List 99 (List 99 is a sensitive and confidential document and access to it is strictly limited to individuals responsible for checking the suitability of applicants. The purpose of List 99 is to enable employers to safeguard against employing a barred person. It should be emphasised that not all those on the list are perceived to be a danger to children).
It's a good way of safeguarding against those with a history, as it is a background check. It can do little to assist with someone who has no history of such behaviour. Suz x. |
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Obviously it isn't compulsory in some situations, which doesn't really make sense. If there's an assumption that people who run youth clubs or teach in Sunday Schools must be innocent then perhaps all the priests and what have you who have been convicted of abuse should be an example that it ain't necessarily so.
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I have deleted all the libel and closed the thread until more info and verification has been found don't want accyweb getting into trouble now do we
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