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MargaretR 06-06-2007 10:09

Disguised mobile phone masts
 
Some people have concerns about wave transmissions (including me).
I have been websearching (what all retired folks have time for :) )
and I have found this site
'Sitefinder' Mobile Phone Base Station Database
Here you can find out on a map exactly where every phone mast is and its spec. So that 'funny looking tree' or 'totem pole' at the end of your road might be a mast - here you find out.

I have found 3 masts within 300 metres from me - only one was visible.
I am still undecided whether this should give me cause for concern. My websearching is ongoing.
Meanwhile I have been researching 'counter measures' which I could use if I decided there is a health hazard and found this-
QLink - Homepage
but at £70 a go - needs careful thought.

I am posting this because we citizens have the right to know where they are and what sort/volume are the transmissions. Some of you are experts on radio transmissions -I'm not - but hope that those of you who are will take a look at the masts in our town, and offer their opinions/advice.

maxwell silver 06-06-2007 10:39

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Just the one near us at the side of the old Church con.Saw this a while ago as i walk past it every day & thought it was somekind of phone transmitter.Needless to say this being Church they have'nt even bothered to disguise it:rolleyes:

garinda 06-06-2007 11:12

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Never mind, the windmills will soon dissipate any harmful radiation.:D

WillowTheWhisp 06-06-2007 11:14

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There are a couple in that no mans' land kind of area between Chester St and the old Springhill school. Those are the nearest to me.
Lot of people much nearer to them than I am.



There was a prog on TV a little while ago which showed far more emissions from wifi equipment than from phone masts.

entwisi 06-06-2007 11:28

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Its also out of date, According to that site the Orange mast near me is GSM only. Its been UTMS enabled for well over 2 years

SPUGGIE J 06-06-2007 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 432548)
Never mind, the windmills will soon dissipate any harmful radiation.:D

Are you sure the windmills are not going to have a mast or 2 hidden in them? Besides they might be a gov plot to scramble our brains boosting the signal. :eek:

SPUGGIE J 06-06-2007 11:41

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I thought there was only 2 in Grangemouth but there are 8 in the town within a mile of me and 13 within a mile and a half. These things are springing up faster than speed cameras and cctv. :eek:

entwisi 06-06-2007 11:45

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aye but look at the signal strength meter on your phone!!!

:D

harwood red 06-06-2007 12:43

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I have one just over 100 metres behind my house.... but then I knew that before I looked

accymel 06-06-2007 12:43

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2 near me in the hillside can see them anyways funny when theres a storm thats where the lightening springs down to - yup i dont have problems with signals:D

SPUGGIE J 06-06-2007 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 432565)
aye but look at the signal strength meter on your phone!!!

:D

Yeh and its scary very scary. Yet I didnt expect so many so they need quite a few to keep a strong signal which means its the number of masts that causes the so called radiation problem not an individual masts.

cashman 06-06-2007 13:26

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dont honestly know where any of em are, care even less,:p

entwisi 06-06-2007 13:49

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but what about all those TV radio waves that have been frying our brains slowly for teh last 50+ years!!

Wifi = microwave
Mobile masts = Deep Fryer
TV = Slow Cooker


:D

MargaretR 06-06-2007 13:53

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Done some more browsing - found 'Freiburger Appeal' (german doctors) which led me to our own docs -
Mast Sanity - Clusters

this is getting scary - I will see if I can get one of those Q link pendants on ebay.
This is the article in todays Indepensant which started me off on this topic
My war on electrosmog: Julia Stephenson sets out to clear the airwaves - Independent Online Edition > Lifestyle

MargaretR 06-06-2007 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 432594)
but what about all those TV radio waves that have been frying our brains slowly for teh last 50+ years!!

Wifi = microwave
Mobile masts = Deep Fryer
TV = Slow Cooker


:D

That explains why us Silver Surfers find many of the younger generation odd - our brains werent cooked during development :D

jambutty 06-06-2007 14:26

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If you mobile phone users want to continue using your new toys you will have to put up with the masts.

Disguising them so that they blend into the surroundings seems like a good idea to me.

But progress has decreed that wifi came into being and that is more scary. Not so much from any perceived radiation, which there is, but from the uses it can be put to.

I heard on the jolly old wireless the other day that a university is considering bathing the whole campus in wifi so that they can keep track of the students. Presumably the photo ID card will have a chip in it. The reason behind this intention was that in the case of an emergency or a fire the position of each student would be known.

Now let me see when was the last time that a university had an emergency or a fire?

How long before the whole country is swamped in wifi and we will all be forced to carry an ID card just so that the powers can be can tell who is where and when?

BEWARE for Big Brother is forever getting closer and closer.

entwisi 06-06-2007 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 432598)

this is getting scary - I will see if I can get one of those Q link pendants on ebay.

Goodness me, that is complete and utter snake oil.

If you want to throw £70 away chuck it at me, I'll protect you with my super aura enhancing nanobots. Guaranteed to protect you from shysters, mobile phones and bad luck

MargaretR 06-06-2007 14:44

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 432608)
Goodness me, that is complete and utter snake oil.

If you want to throw £70 away chuck it at me, I'll protect you with my super aura enhancing nanobots. Guaranteed to protect you from shysters, mobile phones and bad luck

I am going to 'snipe' one at less than a tenner (hopefully) - worth a try.
I do know that my health has gone downhill rapidly in the 4 years I've lived here - might just be old age, but less than a tenner is worth the chance that it might do me some good (clutching at straws ?)

entwisi 06-06-2007 14:55

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So you trust a company that can't even count to 3?

Quote:

The QLink is worn around the neck and is powered by the wearer. It requires no other power source. It is engineered with three main components:

The resonating cell has been programmed with SRT™ to resonate permanently with the optimum life-giving frequencies for the human energy system

The copper coil shapes the subtle energy field conducted by the resonating cell into a sphere surrounding the body. In effect, it creates a field that filters out unwanted energies.
Err, thats two in my book

WillowTheWhisp 06-06-2007 14:58

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Before blaming wandering waves for deteriorating health consider other possibilities. Do you consume anything which contains aspartame?


What's SRT?

MargaretR 06-06-2007 15:02

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I have read their website too - I am a meanie -I research before I even spend a penny (hmm - tenner). There is also an article about them on the 'Bad Science' website.
I have always been a sucker for 'things mystical' - my avatar is
Morgan-la-Fay

MargaretR 06-06-2007 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 432620)
Before blaming wandering waves for deteriorating health consider other possibilities. Do you consume anything which contains aspartame?


What's SRT?

I dont consume any food additives - make my own bread, biscuits and cakes to avoid transfats, drink filtered water, make my own yogurt and never eat ready meals, buy mostly organic and eat home cooked food without microwaves --
I should be fighting fit shouldnt I? :D

WillowTheWhisp 06-06-2007 15:08

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Quote:

SRT is Sympathetic Resonance Technology, a pioneering branch of quantum physics. The Q link pendant acts as a tuning fork that resonates with the ideal note at which the body's energy system should hum.

We should all hum? That's nice to know.

MargaretR 06-06-2007 15:12

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 432625)
We should all hum? That's nice to know.

Or 'OHHM' chant as buddists do, or use a natural deodorant crystal (use that too)

WillowTheWhisp 06-06-2007 15:22

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I am now fully converted to natural deodorant crystal and one day when I forgot to take it to the bathroom I used a roll-on instead and it felt all yucky.

shillelagh 06-06-2007 15:39

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i havent got one near me

WillowTheWhisp 06-06-2007 16:00

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Maybe that's a selling point.

garinda 06-06-2007 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 432624)
I dont consume any food additives - make my own bread, biscuits and cakes to avoid transfats, drink filtered water, make my own yogurt and never eat ready meals, buy mostly organic and eat home cooked food without microwaves --
I should be fighting fit shouldnt I? :D

Maybe it's the post health food cigarette, you're having after your meal?:D:D

MargaretR 06-06-2007 16:29

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 432642)
Maybe it's the post health food cigarette, you're having after your meal?:D:D

LOL - As Mrs Fawlty would say "I knooow"
Zyban brought me out in lumps - patches gave me itchy blotches.
I am trying !!! (but then you gathered that already :D )

SPUGGIE J 06-06-2007 18:05

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To think for the past few years I blamed the petrochemical industry and now after looking at the site its those blasted masts irradiating what bit of grey matter that still works. :(

mallard 06-06-2007 21:57

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They have to put them up some were its like mobil,s phones,computer,s the world is changing very quickly with the things we have to day so we put up with it are not thats the way things are.

SPUGGIE J 07-06-2007 15:39

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Maybe the changes going on are too fast for most. The way things are going we will have more technology outside than inside and thats getting scary.

entwisi 08-06-2007 06:58

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Technology has brought many advantages, without pushing the boundaries of science and tech we would still be living in caves and the like, its by peoples inbuilt desire to move on that we live such a comfortable and relatively easy life now.

100 years ago I would have been sent down the pit and would probably have been dead before I reached the age I have. Science and technology has changed all that. It is also always going to be an exponential progression curve because as we learn one more thing it adds value to everything that went before. Most things are good, some get twisted into something bad.

garinda 08-06-2007 08:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 432902)
Technology has brought many advantages, without pushing the boundaries of science and tech we would still be living in caves and the like, its by peoples inbuilt desire to move on that we live such a comfortable and relatively easy life now.

100 years ago I would have been sent down the pit and would probably have been dead before I reached the age I have. Science and technology has changed all that. It is also always going to be an exponential progression curve because as we learn one more thing it adds value to everything that went before. Most things are good, some get twisted into something bad.


Apparently this 'easy life' has also made us vastly obese. I read the other day, as a nation, we were far healthier under rationing.

Also children have never been as inactive, playing out less, as well as playing less sport. Though I'm not suggesting sending them up chimneys, or down the pit, as a quick fix to remedy this.:D

lindsay ormerod 08-06-2007 08:21

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Not a bad idea for some of them though Rindy !

Neil 08-06-2007 08:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 432912)
Apparently this 'easy life' has also made us vastly obese.

I hope your talking about yourself lard arse :p:D:D:D:D
I have to work hard to stay the shape I am.

entwisi 08-06-2007 08:55

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On the radio yesterday morning they are blaming Microwave ovens, err as was pointed out by the DJ, Its what you put IN them that matters :D

I bet the country was less obese, healthier I doubt it as kids were still suffering from many dieses that we have erradicated.

garinda 08-06-2007 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 432921)
I bet the country was less obese, healthier I doubt it as kids were still suffering from many dieses that we have erradicated.

I'm not talking about the poverty of Victorian times, but the '40's and '50's, when we had rationing.

Nutritionists compared our diet of today, with that of sixty years ago, and found the latter to be much more the healthier option.

Limited fat, very limited sugar, high fibre/low protein, lots of vegetables, and of course not as many preservatives as we have today, were our 'fresh' food is shipped thousands of miles, and so needs artifical preservatives to survive the journey.

entwisi 08-06-2007 12:40

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I'd agree about all the processed stuff and additives, I persoanlly reckon its this coupled with the massive increase in carbohydrate in our diet. Mix that with a much more sedentary lifestyle now is the real reason for our increasing obesity

MargaretR 08-06-2007 13:01

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A major problem in the 40's and 50's (I lived through it) was air pollution. All the terraced houses (there were far more of them then) burnt coal. There were numerous mill chimneys all belching out smoke too. In winter when everybody needed to heat their homes a short walk outside resulted in soot specks on your face -ladies carried powder compacts to conceal the muck.

On the day after bonfire night you didn't stir out unless you absolutely had to because of thick smog that lasted all day if not longer.In London the smog spells were frequent and notorious for causing deaths. Burnley geographically is in a basin and had the highest rates of suicide because they rarely saw the sun in winter, and a shorter life expectancy due to lung disease (partly due to 'miners lung').

Cigarette smoking was fashionable and accepted because we were not aware that the smoke pollution was damaging.The Smoke Control Act came in the early 60's. Coal was replaced by coke which still gave off fumes but not smoke. Eventually gas and electric fires were used and even later - central heating.

We have now replaced one sort of air pollution with others-
vehicle exhaust fumes (known to be damaging- vehicle ownership was rare in the 40s & 50s) and these high tech microwave and radio emissions ,which we are not sure about ..............YET!!!!.


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