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Yes I am;because I am a non smoker and I hate smelling of second hand smoke when I get home after being around smokers in an enclosed space. I also don't value having my health compromised by selfish smokers who don't respect my breathing space.
But you smokers also my sympathy as it's obviously a very difficult habit to break.

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A sledge hammer to crack a nut in my opinion.There was no need for a blanket ban.They could have left it to Landlord's discretion or a designated smoking room equipped with big fans for ventilation would have sufficed.We're stuck with it now though aren't we?Only about 3 weeks left before it comes into force.

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i totally disagree
seperate areas provides a safe haven for all without taking away the human rights of smokers

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Ok i smoke - and i agree with it. Been to Dublin after the ban came in and i liked it. Stood outside with the rest or in the smoking area with the patio heaters and underneath the brollys. Preferred it. You dont smoke as much because you have to get up and stand outside away from your friends.

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Got to agree with it really.

Just need to ban alchol in public places and we on to a winner.:D

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A lot of Pubs have applied for planning permission to build "smoking shelters".
All buildings are to display the correct No Smoking sign or risk being fined, that includes churches which is a bit over the top.
The ban has got to be a move in the right direction, just think of all the money HM Gov will loose as people give up the weed.

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Yes I'm ready.

I'm never going out again.:D

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I think its brilliant, i am a smoker and that way it will be easier to stop smoking, nice one

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A lot of people who I have had this discussion with have said this, and my argument is alcohol doesnt affect other people's health! Unless they get absolutely off their trolley and start fighting of course lol.

MMM i think u are wrong on that one im sorry to say but alcohol does affect ur health long term with liver diseases

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Yes, I'm looking forward to going out and not coming home stinking of fags.

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not in favour, but it dont matter, the powers that be will do what they want,when they want as usual, n theres sod all anyone can do about it.:p

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I have voted yes on this poll even though I am a heay smoker myself.

The only thing that naffs me off is the fact that it is well known that modern extractor units availble have been proved to carry away the smoke, smell and danger to non-smokers. Only costs, bullying and smug attitudes that have prevented these going ahead.

The one thing I will miss is the 'withdrawing to the lounge with my coffee (eeeks caffeine :D) after a lovely meal in a restaurant' but am looking forward to the socialisation that will be created by the heated patios in the pubs.

Labouring a point yet again I will now campaign to rid the world of such perfumes as Giorgio (award for worst),Kenzo, Paco Rabanne, Moschino, Burberry, Angel, Stella McCartney, Vanilla based and Ghost which has some ingredient which causes me to fell nauseus, physically wretch, wheezy, chesty,sneezing unlimited, dizzy and generally extremely unwell. It also clings to my clothes and can smell it until they are washed. Amazingly, still have this incredible sense of smell. My colleagues at work now know better than to wear such a perfume when in my presence all day. Smell it when in town as people walk past me and wonder what they find so attractive in this obnoxious so called 'delight to their nostrils'.

Seriously, does affect me extremely badly.

Yes, roll on July 1st .. don't mind at all.

Have taken a vow never to comment on this subject again.. just invites the bigots/ganging characteristics in us all.

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Lived with it up here for 15 months so nowt new to me. Benifits will show but might take 6 months. :)

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Yeh, was definitely a benefit to me whilst up there in Glasgow few months ago..Exhibition Centre /hotel .. met loads of lovely people whilst chatting/being chatted up :D:D outside. Felt the benefits within 24 hrs. LOL

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My neurologist encourages my habit, by saying it lessons my tremor. In fact I should ask for cigarettes on prescription.:D

I probably will give up one day, but being a contrary Mary, not when I'm expected, or told to.:)

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are we TWINS or what?:D;)

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As far as I'm aware there are 3 places that wil not come under this new law and that the affected people will still be allowed to smoke freely and without too many constrants


1. For fear of "more this is against my human (cold turkey) rights" claims the prisons are, I believe, exempt.

2. The clients detained within the walls of the secure Hospitals.

but not the staff I might add.


and because its a case of "Do as I say and not as I do"











3 the House of Commons and the House of Lords



sounds about right

break the law go and have a fag;

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What's going to happen in prisons?

If you are locked in a cell for twenty three hours a day, aren't you allowed to smoke?

I'd better start being good, or at least make sure I'm never caught!:D

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Well I'm a non smoker and I hate coming home smelling of smoke but I think a blanket ban is a bit too much. I think it will be the death knell for some smaller local pubs.

If a pub serves food then absolutely make it no smoking, if it allows children in then again, absolutely no smoking but if it's a pub where only drinkers go to for their pint after work or lunchtime then I think there should be an application process to allow some pubs to be smoking pubs.

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It is a bit of a strange state of affairs were you can locally go to a number of crack dens in the area, yet from next month you won't be able to have a drink and a cigarette anywhere except in your own home.

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It's not fair is it? The scum that drink all day,don't contribute anything to society and get violent can carry on doing just that because that's allowed but auntie Ethel can't go in her favourite cafe and have a ciggie with her cup of tea while she chats to her friends as she has done for years.When did anyone ever smoke 10 fags one after the other and then go and kick some innocent person to death? The law has its priorities all wrong.Very unfair.

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That why I said drinking in public should also be banned.

I wonder how many pubs will actually be 100% compliant, As im sure last orders in a lot of pubs is 11,12pm and I have been in a few lock ins.;)

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I voted yes ... even tho' it's not really any of my business. Ontario has had a blanket ban for over a year. After a few months it ceases to be much of an issue. I was a heavy smoker (two packs a day {50** for more years than I care to count). It almost killed me, whenever I feel the urge to light up I look at the scars I have from the surgery. However, I think that rather than punishing the addicts much more effort and cash should be directed at making sure as few people as possible start the habit.

The thing that really bothers me about the issue is the attitude of the "smoking nazis", holier than thou crusaders. With these a**holes smoking becomes a moral issue, smokers to them are somehow not as good (in the moral sense) as non-smokers. This is the wrong attitude. A smoker is an addict to a legal substance, he is not, and should not be treated as, a criminal.

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i see that the bus shelter which are enclosed have now gone signs up not to smoke!!
what about phone boxes can you smoke in them?

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if bus shelters or any smoking shelter as three solid sides its against the law

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so why should none smokers not have the right to go in the same cafe and not be poisoned no one dies of passive drinking

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next you wont be able to smoke in your own home!

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if you have children why not

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Most Pubs have at least two bars/rooms why could they not just have one for smokers and one for non smokers ?

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I know you are not poisoned by alcohol because the bloke next to you is having half a lager but when someone who has been drinking all day starts a brawl and finishes up kicking someone to death then that someone has,in effect,died of passive drinking.They've died due to the actions of a drunk and it might not have happened if drink wasn't involved.

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I've been wondering about that too.How long before your neighbour can sue you because you're having a fag in your garden and the smoke is coming through their open window in the summer?
How long before the house insurance won't insure you for fire if you're a smoker?

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At present a lot of adults go to the pub to enjoy a cigarette and a drink but after 1st July they'll probably be staying at home more,smoking at home more.That's not benefitting the kids,at least by smoking in the pub the children were protected from it more than they will be from 1st July.

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There was something on the news the other week that Liverpool City Council were to ask their tennants not to smoke in their houses for at least 1/2 an hour to an hour before being visited by council workers! Now that's going a bit far

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what about children that get nothing because parents spend there money on cigs .it should be down to choice i agree when your old enough to make that choice.if the cafe as signs to say smoking allowed throught the building then thats up to none smokers to go in or not same goes with pubs not being argumentive just two sides

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As of Saturday you won't be able to smoke at the tables outside Annies Cafe in the Victorian Arcade, which is a bit daft, and even though the owner apparently wanted to allow smoking there.

The only place that smokers in Accrington will be able to eat and smoke is at the tables outside the cafe opposite the Town Hall.

Shouldn't be much of a wait for a table on a day like today though.:D

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Hynburn Homes have also requested you don't smoke in your own house if any of their employees are in the house.

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LMAO........this must be a wind up:rolleyes:
what else they want a red carpet!?....:mad:

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No wind up :D

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well thank god i dont smoke or have a council house, they are now taking the pee pee!

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That's the thing isn't it?It's all going too far.I believe that you won't be able to have a fag in your house if you've got workmen in because it's their workplace,you can't smoke in your car if you're giving a colleague a lift even if they are a smoker too! How that's going to be policed I don't know but why has it been taken to such silly levels?:(
My friend works in a prison and all the inmates can have a fag because prisons are exempt as it's their home but it doesn't apply to the staff.It's all wrong.From this Sunday if you have a fag in a public place you'll be fined,refuse to pay the fine and you'll be chased for it,refuse at all costs to pay the fine and the ultimate punishment for you will be prison.....where you'll be able to smoke to your heart's content:D

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Its the same with rest/nursing homes the residents can smoke all they want but the staff cant smoke .

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I know,I've got another friend who works in a nursing home and she was saying how she normally has a brew and a fag with one particular old lady on her break time but she won't be able to from next week.They'll be able to sit together and drink tea,the lady will still be allowed her fag but my friend won't,even though they'll be sitting next to each other in the same room! Where's the logic in that?:mad:

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true mick....exemptions for bedrooms in hotels, and for care homes, hospices and prisons.

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i wonder if you can smoke on railway platforms??

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No

Smoking in English public places will be prohibited from 1 July, bringing the country into line with similar bans in Scotland and Wales, with a blanket ban on lighting up on all 1,900 station concourses, ticket halls, covered and uncovered platforms, footbridges and subways, as well as retail and food outlets.

The legislation will also apply to railway and station offices, canteens and workplace areas covered by the law, although smoking will be allowed on most station forecourts and in uncovered station parks.

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only if enclosed!, so you can have a fag in accy railway platform, unless it states no smoking


also taxis cant have there fags anymore

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Lets get one thing straight – it isn’t a ban on smoking in public places but a ban on smoking in ENCLOSED public spaces or in open spaces where the owner of the public open space declares it a smoke free zone. Hospital grounds, football grounds, railway stations etc.

Just an observation to all those smugly remarking that at long last they can go home without their clothes and hair smelling like an old ashtray. They will now go home with their clothes and hair smelling like an old car exhaust. When are you going to complain about that? If not why not?

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I don't know if there's others wondering the same or if I'm just being a biff but why will people be smelling like old car exhausts?:confused:

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Because the alleged clean air that we all breathe is heavily polluted by vehicle exhaust fumes.

You clothes and hair don’t stink of exhaust fumes Kisser because the fag pollutant masked it. Without the smell of tobacco smoke it won’t be long before your clothes and hair will smell like an old exhaust pipe.

Many years ago when my ex-wife worked in a chip shop during the evenings, she would come home smelling like a chip.

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Don't worry about it ... you will get used to it in no time ... the problem that we face in Canada, one that you guys will face soon, is that the initial no smoking legislation is a sort of foot in the door thing ... soon, the smoking nazis will want to ban smoking in your own vehicle if there are children in the car, in apartments, upwind of a non smoker .... and then the even dumber stuff; Corrections Canada has seen fit to ban smoking in Canada's prisons, and leave the staff to put up with flak from the cons, almost all of whom smoke. I don't think the slap on the wrist punishments that will be handed out will deter the guys serving life. And get this beuraucratic mind f**t: the cons can't smoke, but they can still purchase tobacco, legally in the prison canteen!!!!

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Oh, by the way, July 1st 2007 is also Canada's 140th birthday. Happy Canada Day, eh!

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well i dont stink like a exhaust pipe!, thank you very much!
if i dont go to a friends house (who smokes) i still smell the same as i do when i have been in the shower:D:p

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i never knew that !!:rolleyes:
happy canada day!!!:banjump::wave8: