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panther 25-06-2007 09:09

Unisex toilets plan for schools
 
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Unisex Toilets Plan For Schools (from Lancashire Telegraph)

as if thats gonna work, boys toilets bloody stink!!...no offence:rolleyes:

andrewb 25-06-2007 09:21

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Are they under the influence that people only bully those of the same sex?

WillowTheWhisp 25-06-2007 09:22

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This is not a good idea. In fact I am horrified.

lancsdave 25-06-2007 09:28

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I think the first comment on the article although clearly tongue in cheek says it all;

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I wish i was young and back in school again, why go to a maths class when you can check out chicks in the toilets.
Absolutely stupid idea and once again decisions made by people working in some government office totally removed from the real world :mad:

WillowTheWhisp 25-06-2007 09:48

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Gordon Birtwistle, leader of Burnley council says it all: "It could lead to all sorts of sexual advances. It's a recipe for disaster."

davo69 25-06-2007 11:34

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shocking .........

Margaret Pilkington 25-06-2007 11:44

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 439962)
Gordon Birtwistle, leader of Burnley council says it all: "It could lead to all sorts of sexual advances. It's a recipe for disaster."

I wholeheartedly agree, it is a recipe for disaster.
Where do they get these loony ideas from?

Less 25-06-2007 11:49

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Well I wonder if this and the trend to name a child after the place it was conceived, will we get a glut of children called Twyford?:confused:

Or maybe the boys will just be called John?:D

cashman 25-06-2007 12:01

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whats the annual salary of the "clowns" that think of these great ideas?:D more than ordinary hard-working people i bet!

***Mr D*** 25-06-2007 12:05

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Stupid idea.

Only way that could possibly work if it had lockable cubicals only.

cashman 25-06-2007 12:12

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 439985)
Stupid idea.

Only way that could possibly work if it had lockable cubicals only.

thats no option, unless yer to young to remember the many public toilets with lockable cubicles.

jambutty 25-06-2007 12:21

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They’ve got to be joking.

This is taking sex equality a step too far.

Lilly 25-06-2007 14:59

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When I was at primary school the toilets were unisex in the infants,separate in the Juniors.I think separate is much better though all the way through school.

ploppysirploppy 25-06-2007 15:50

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Not a good idea at all.... where will kids hide while playin Kissy Catch!
But really... it ain't a good idea... you can just imagine what sort of 'bullying' would go on... especially with the girls...ya know... maturing into women?
Lea
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***Mr D*** 25-06-2007 16:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 439987)
thats no option, unless yer to young to remember the many public toilets with lockable cubicles.

Of corse Im to young.:)

Never frequented these types of places though, id sooner hold it in till getting home.:D

blazey 25-06-2007 17:00

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Strange idea and I dont really know what I think about it. Bullying generally seems to be within the same gender from my experiences... girls bullied by girls, boys bullied by boys. I wonder if they think perhaps if they were same sex then the opposite sex wuld step in...

However most people know that isnt the case as often the opposite sex tends to do the cheering on bit...

They're going to make public toilets for transgender/transexual people as well soon, its in a proposed bill at the moment, equal rights and all that. I don't know what I think of that either. Is it liberating them or treating them as if their too different to use the same toilets?

MargaretR 26-06-2007 09:47

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I was horrified at the prospect at first, because, being female, I remember how menstruation was a subject to be hidden, even from your own gender.
My mother hid her ST towels half way down in the bedding box. As a child I found them accidentally and wondered what they were - never asked - sensed the subject was taboo. Now tv advertising has liberated the topic.

This proposal for unisex toilets may work against bullying -IF
Girls and boys have seperate lockable cubicles.
Girls do not want to sit on seats 'sprayed' by boys. Neither do girls want to walk past a row of urinals where boys are busy comparing sizes :D

davo69 26-06-2007 10:45

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quicky behind bike sheds toilets will be much warmer and some were to sit

WillowTheWhisp 26-06-2007 12:21

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I thought all public toilets had lockable cubicles. The ladies do anyway. I wouldn't like to use one that didn't.

blazey 26-06-2007 15:00

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You dont change your sanitary towel in public, your behind the door of the cubicle. All toilet doors have locks on anyway and I'm sure these nwe unisex toilets will.

Its alot of fuss over nothing when yiu think about. Disabled toilets are unisex and you dont hear them complaining!

garinda 26-06-2007 19:14

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Perhaps they'll be like some of the unisex loos in France, with attendents to brush you down, wipe your hands with a warm towel, and proffer an array of colognes.

Any tips could be given to school funds.

davo69 27-06-2007 06:44

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they do that in most of the gents toilets in blackpool now

WillowTheWhisp 27-06-2007 07:31

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 440304)
You dont change your sanitary towel in public, your behind the door of the cubicle. All toilet doors have locks on anyway and I'm sure these nwe unisex toilets will.

Its alot of fuss over nothing when yiu think about. Disabled toilets are unisex and you dont hear them complaining!

It's not so much the doing of your own private requirements behind your own locked cubicle door that's the problem.

It's the young hormone driven teenagers of both sexes being in a place where they can lock themselves into a cubicle together which screams out NO! NO! NO!

The perfect location for sexual harrassment too. The shyer more retiring girls would not want to have to 'go' when there may be a crowd of lads loitering outside the cubicle door.

Disabled toilets are different. They tend to be one cubicle only with outside access and one user at a time.

panther 27-06-2007 08:38

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well i dont fancy taking a pee knowing some young lads are stood there listening, its a stupid idea..but i must admit i used to use the mens in the night clubs because the loos were full;)

WillowTheWhisp 27-06-2007 08:39

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I remember it being against some regulation or other not to have seperate toilets for men and women in the workplace.

blazey 27-06-2007 17:47

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 440630)
It's not so much the doing of your own private requirements behind your own locked cubicle door that's the problem.

It's the young hormone driven teenagers of both sexes being in a place where they can lock themselves into a cubicle together which screams out NO! NO! NO!

The perfect location for sexual harrassment too. The shyer more retiring girls would not want to have to 'go' when there may be a crowd of lads loitering outside the cubicle door.

Disabled toilets are different. They tend to be one cubicle only with outside access and one user at a time.

Thats assuming teenagers are sex mad and anti-social. If teenagers wanted to have sex in toilets, do you think a sing on a door stops that? There is the same risk of being caught having sex in a cubicle with or without a little person on the door.

Sexual harassment doesn't class as lads standing outside a cubicle door either.

I don't know how old you are but you clearly have a big gap with the younger generation as you seem to think they're too antisocial to go to a unisex toilet responsibly. Gives me the impression its the older ones who'd kick up a fuss about unisex toilets, sounds like the younger ones would just get on with it, which is more likely as the younger generations are brought up in a faster developing society than the older generations who are afraid of change without thinking of every negative aspect imaginable to going as far as assuming young people just want to lock themselves in with eachother in the toilets.

At primary schools both sexes experiment in the cloakrooms, at high school they go to the cinema, believe or not once they leave they do it in the privacy of their own homes. Very few are going to be running to the toilets for a quicky. Theres nothing actually giving them less oppurtunity now before the unisex toilets are in place.

Perhaps in the older generations people DID have to sneak for a quicky where ever they could? Is that what it is?

park381 27-06-2007 17:58

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Is this not a hm-gov directive, will it not save space, and reduce building costs :D

WillowTheWhisp 27-06-2007 23:17

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This member of the older generation never sneaked a quickie anywhere. I'm one of those who believe that sex should be reserved for marriage. Thankfully there are still some of the younger generation who think that way too. There are unfortunately far more teenage pregnancies in this country today than there were when I was a teenager. In fact I read today that we're the worst country in Europe which I find rather sad.

mrjdallen 10-07-2007 14:46

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i work in school and that idea is so wrong, its like unisex chaning rooms at some swimming baths

mothernature 12-07-2007 13:51

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What idiot thought this up? I asked my children about this and they are horrified at the idea. Girls don't want to share toilets with boys especially when they are learning to cope with their body changes. According to my daughter it was bad enough having toilets next to each other. The boys were always trying to sneak in and because the teachers didn't have the powers to deal with them the girls eventually took to standing guard at the main door. Cubicles are not safe enough. All public toilets I've used or cleaned have open tops and the doors are easy to crawl under. Bad Bad idea. Where's the common sense gone from this government?

mrjdallen 12-07-2007 14:03

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Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 447695)
What idiot thought this up? I asked my children about this and they are horrified at the idea. Girls don't want to share toilets with boys especially when they are learning to cope with their body changes. According to my daughter it was bad enough having toilets next to each other. The boys were always trying to sneak in and because the teachers didn't have the powers to deal with them the girls eventually took to standing guard at the main door. Cubicles are not safe enough. All public toilets I've used or cleaned have open tops and the doors are easy to crawl under. Bad Bad idea. Where's the common sense gone from this government?

i totally agree - i work in a school and as the boys and girls are next to each other and both have doors on before entering there is a toliet lady on duty

mallard 12-07-2007 14:14

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What,s happend to the people to day and whats going on at the schools the way we was when we was there as gone by now and i think the kid will be running them for them self,s in a bit.

Eric 12-07-2007 15:16

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 440436)
Perhaps they'll be like some of the unisex loos in France, with attendents to brush you down, wipe your hands with a warm towel, and proffer an array of colognes.

Any tips could be given to school funds.

I remember those ... Back in 1970 I and a couple of friends from the wilds of Saskatoon visited England, got roaring drunk, and somehow ended up in Paris ... vistited Les Invalides and in due course needed to take a leak ... lo and behold, a unisex bog .... actually it was one of the nicest bogs I had ever been in ... much better than the bog at Accy Grammar were we had to go to puff on our woodbines.

But I do think that taking a leak, or a dump, is a private thing ... some people I know will try to hold it until they get home, so that they can sit on their own flush. Communal urination and defecation are enough challenge for a lot of folks ... unisexing it may make it more difficult.
But, kids today are definitely a different generation ... just as different from us as we were from our parents. They will be able to handle unisex bogs ... but this still does not make them a good idea. (The bogs, I mean, not the kids:))

jambutty 12-07-2007 16:11

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much better than the bog at Accy Grammar were we had to go to puff on our woodbines.
We at the Ossy tech Eric could only afford Bar One, Double Ace, Nosegay and on the rare occasion Park Drive. We would practically kill for a Senior Service, Players or Capstan.

Some guys smoked "Bend Down Virginias" or "Guttersnipe" but only when it hadn't rained.

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2007 16:42

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BTW, just thought I'd add that I may well be an old fogey but I'm far from out of touch with youngsters of today as I have two teenage daughters, one 16 and one almost 13 and they think this is a bad idea.

Eric 12-07-2007 17:02

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 447740)
We at the Ossy tech Eric could only afford Bar One, Double Ace, Nosegay and on the rare occasion Park Drive. We would practically kill for a Senior Service, Players or Capstan.

Some guys smoked "Bend Down Virginias" or "Guttersnipe" but only when it hadn't rained.

Were double ace the ones that came in packs of four for 6d? I still remember carrying a pin so that one could stretch out the dockers. My grandad smoked Capstan Full Strength, and I could sometimes nick one of those. I think that the smell of fag smoke was the only thing that made the bogs bearable.:eek: But I do remember a little bullying in the bog ... nothing serious, stick some new kid's head in the flush and pull the chain ... maybe a kick in the butt as he gets his hair washed for free.:)

jambutty 12-07-2007 17:28

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They came in packs of five in an open ended paper pack. I can’t remember how much they cost but we could get a single for 2d from some shops.

Eric 12-07-2007 17:38

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 447769)
They came in packs of five in an open ended paper pack. I can’t remember how much they cost but we could get a single for 2d from some shops.

Now I remember ... they were Domino ... they came in an open ended paper pack too. You had to be careful how you held the suckers or all the tobacco would run out.


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