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Just reading reports of car being driven into terminal building:

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Car on fire crashes into airport

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Blimey ! Am I being cynical in saying it doesn't look like a "random accident" ?

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it wud b extremely unfortunate if it was a coincidental incident but i dont think it is....

thankfully these attacks so far have been rather amateurish like the 21/7 ones

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Mani my friend,let's hope it stays that way !:(

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My friend is flying back to Glasgow this weekend to visit his parents, after moving to Gran Canaria.I think (hope) his flight is tomorrow.

I hope no one is hurt. It's only small airport, and I've flown from their countless times.:(

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i think they'll re-route his flight to another scottish airport

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...rport2_203.jpg

"I saw a Jeep Cherokee apparently as if it was trying to get right through the doors into the terminal building.

"There were flames coming out from underneath then some men appeared from in amongst the flames.

"The police ran over and the people started fighting with the police. I then heard what sounded like an explosion."

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Sounds really bad :(

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Deliberate........4 people arrested.
Driver set himself of fire..........No other injuries reported.
Now it's 3 people detained.

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Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened.

He said: "There was an Asian male. He was lying on the floor and he was on fire, the Jeep was on fire as well.

"The fellow got up and started fighting with police. I managed to knock the Asian fellow to the ground and four police officers got on top of him."

He added: "His whole body was on fire. He was quite a big fellow and was disorientated otherwise I wouldn't have been able to knock him down."

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Totally off thread I know, so appologies.

We were flying from Glasgow to Milan via Heathrow. We remembered we were having tea the next afternoon with my friend's Nona, so we went to the shop in Glasgow airport to purchase some little Scottish gifts for this nice old lady.

As Nonna spoke no English, and we can only swear and order drinks in Italian, the gifts were greatfully received, but we were too giddy to try and explain that the tartan headcsarf she'd decided to wear was actually a tea-towel.:D

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As the car driver and passenger are still alive maybe they will be able to tell us their motives. Did they do it for Allah or have they just got a personal grievance against Glasgow Airport? :(

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wicked pic

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1553907.jpg

i dunno maybe they didnt let em take that extra 5kg thru to their holiday in afganistan?

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an interesting if rather stupid theory behind the recent car bombings...

could it be a protest against the smoking ban?

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It says the car and the man was already on fire, it could've possibly ben a dropped cigarette that caused them to lose control, and they attacked the police in their panic ;)

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I hope you dont use evidence like that when you make silk.

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If she was defending them she well might. :D

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I don't think a silk would take that on

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I agree about the defence but anyone who rams a vehicle into a building that is heavily populated, sets the vehicle on fire and then sets fire to himself in front of many witnesses is a lost case. Lawyers of whatever rank can be assigned to the case and will be running a mile from this one.
I hope he is made to serve his sentence in a straight jacket.

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News now says an Asian man attacked police, while totally covered in flames, shouting 'Ala'. They were also carrying molotov cocktails, so I think the 'dropped cigarette' theory is out the window.

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It was a joke, don't take it seriously.

I think the line of defence they'll use is the prosecution trying to figure out what the motive was for attacking that airport, though clearly a key theory would be is that its not been targetted as yet, wont have as high security and its unexpected.

Strange why to attack though, suicide arsonists?!

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Well a very jokey response to a serious issue.Perhaps it's the stiff upper lip syndrome.
Meanwhile my bottom one is quivering as we a re due to fly out in the next few days!

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:mad:i usually like to have a joke but this is serious . i dont think this thread warrants jokes .they are saying if they got through the security barrier they would have killed hundreds of people plus there was another thwarted bomb attack in spain .apparantley one of the terrorist scum is dead.these are terorrist scum you cant call these people freedom fighters or anything else they have no objectives they just want to kill as many people as possible for the sake of it.if it wasnt for the heroes today and last week we would be looking at innocent deaths people just going about there daily business heroes the bomb disposal guy who risked his own life,the guy today who risked his own life by tackling the terorrist scum,

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I now here that Liverpool's John Lennon Airport is closed for the night!

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most airports are now as there is an attack immenent:eek::(

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wonder what day that thomson guy was travelling?

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I'm curious why they would target Scotland? Is it just because there is less security? I have more questions comments but fear I can't ask without it sounding right.

Brian

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Go ahead LancYorkYankee it doesn't stop anyone else!

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we all know why they dont care where they target they just want to kill as many people possible they are scum cowards :mad::mad:

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it says on the news that it might be because the queen and othe dignatries were in scoltand at the scottish parliament..?
but other than that I have no idea why target scotland either...unless it was some crazy asians (as reported) jumping on the ' I want to be a martyr and have a 1000 virgins waiting for me ' bandwagon as it was quite a botch job as they said on fox news..

they have also said that one of the suspects who was taken to hospital was found to be wearing a suspicious device...

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Go for it Brian..........This has brought home to all American, British and all right minded people of the world what savages these animals are.
Is it not time that these people and their followers are brought to book.
If they get a bloody nose for their activities in any part of the world they rely on the sensationalism of the world press to get them off the hook.
Let the punishment fit the crime. Ask all the questions you want Pal.
If you can get in between the nonsense one liners from Garinda

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I may have stated this before,but if Paradise/ 1000 virgins et al is such a certainty,why oh why aren't the Terrorist bosses at the front of the queue when it comes to volunteering?
When they can answer this I will (as my late father used to say )show my a***in Burton's window.

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you see the leaders are more westernised than us its all about money they use the islam as an excuse its like bin laden why did he have all those operations to keep him alive and then order suicide bombers to bomb and kill the answers in the question :rolleyes:

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it was the start of the scottish childrens holidays LYY, thats good enough reason for murdering scum like these, fortunatly it failed in its purpose.

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suicide belt found on one of the bombers.the one in hospital just shows how brave the members of the public and security services were tackling him.bring back torture and find out who else is out there ready to bomb us.as cashman says its the beginning of the school holidays one of the busiest days of the year. they were trying to kill and maim as many men woman and children as possible.scum :mad:scum:mad:scum

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Women suicide bombers are the worst! They are meant to get to be like queen or a higher regarded virgin if u may.

People throught history have done stupid, pointless things due to religious beliefs. Jihadists aren't the first and they certainly wont be the last of them.

Its a shame because traditions in religion like this continue throughout history but traditions such as building magnificent monuments to celebrate peoples lives/deaths and temples for the religious beliefs no longer seem important.

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Brian's my big Brother, Mr Sulky chops.;)

Here you go again, using yet another thread to have another dig.

A grown up would realise it's time to get over it.

Jealousy is such an unhealthy trait.:(

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Okay, it just shows how ultra cowardly these "b**^$$#^&(bad guys)"are. I mean, I could understand them attacking America and England as we are the ones "in this." I abhore any attacks on civilians but especially on a country that hasn't been as involved as others.

I mean, I really kinda expect an attack on Washington, DC, or other symbolic area. Wouldn't a more "appropriate" (not meaning it right please) battleplan be to attack the great satan. Or one of the great satan's military bases. Yeah, I know it would be difficult but wouldn't the difficulty factor earn them even more skanky virgins ( . . . can you have a skanky virgin?).

Okay, as you can see, I'm probably not being properly understood but I hope my "thoughts" can be somewhat desciphered.

Brian

Cute response up there bruv Rindy!:p

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i was listening to the radio on the way to work and they had some scottish MP/intelligence guy and he said this shows the fact that parliment has been so caught up in protecting london that it didnt bother with the rest of hte uk

they wouldnt have got near heathrow or gatwick but the fact of the matter is glasgow etc was seen by them as an easier target than london.

which is totally true. they get a slight whisper and tanks are bought outside heathrow with concrete barriers and all manchester et all get is metal bars from the ground.

whats really amazed me is the amount of eye witness acounts that started coming almost instantly.

i'm just glad there was no serious injuries - i was workin at a hotel tonight and kept having a look around on the street just in case. parked my car right infront of the doors and i'm normally not one to fluster easy.

apparently a car and its occupants were arrested on the M6 in cheshire too

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LYY - it wouldnt make sense for terrorists to go anywhere near a major landmark or a high potential target like a base as they know they wont get near it. thats why in iraq u hear of bombs going off in marketplaces etc public areas and more chance of gettin a result.

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Hang on here.. Glasgow is part of the UK.. by saying England are the ones "in this" do you mean Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not "in it" ? The vast majority of MP's from Scotland,Wales and Ireland voted for "the war against terror"...it may be worth remembering that Tony Blair is Scottish by birth and Gordon Brown is certainly Scottish, they are or have been the Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom.. Scotland is part of that union.

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Brian, as Mancie posted, the Britain's armed forces are made up of people from all over the UK.

Sadly it was only this week that two twenty year olds Scots were killed in Iraq.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Edinburgh and East | Scottish soldiers killed in Iraq

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So is your affliction but that does not bother me.
I have been grown up quite a lot longer than you,if you cant read that in the posts I'm sorry.
I think it's quite obvious I don't think much of your humour, smut, inuendo's
and arrogance. What does bother me is that you keep getting away with it.
If this post results in a removal or a ban so be it.

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Please feel free to report any of my posts that break forum rules.

I didn't report the post were you broke the rules, by not posting in English, by the way. I thought a friendly warning would be more civilised.:)

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Yes, I realize the scope of the UK. I just mean a hit in England would be more front and center. As would a hit to Washington DC over Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Okay (still asking questions rather then making a statement), during the conflict with the IRA. How often was Wales or Scotland bombed or terrorized? I really don't know this answer but thought it was mainly England and Northern Ireland being attacked.

Brian

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It was England and Northern Ireland Lyy and mainly the big cities and towns that the IRA attacked Manchester, London and Brighton

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I can't think of any IRA terrorist attacks that were in Scotland or Wales (?).

They did also hit what I suppose were soft targets in England, by which I mean places that had very little security systems in place, such as Warrington in Cheshire.

I heard three bombs go off whilst living in London. Hyde Park, Harrods, and Victoria Station, the last being the one that killed a customer of mine.

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Have you forgotten the IRA bomb which caused the rebuilding of a large section of Manchester centre?
AND the day that Accrington centre was cordoned off when a car boot full of the stuff was found on the car park of a tyre sales place off Eastgate?

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Me?

No. I'm like an elephant, I never forget.:D

I didn't mention large metropolitan centres that were attacked, like Manchester and Birmingham, and even Brighton, which all had some sort of security system in place, because we hopefully all remember those.

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i think scotland and wales were never hit as the ira wanted to affect the english more than anything. even though there probably were scottish and welsh regiments present in NI they wanted to trouble the english specifically

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...plus, I don't know about Wales, though there were links claimed between Welsh nationalist organisations and the IRA, but there were/are very strong political ties between Scotland and Northern Ireland.

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one of the guys arrested on the M6 is allegedly an Iranian Doctor,from near Stoke,if he turns out to be one of these terrorists then its very disconcerting.:(

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There is a really integrated society in Glasgow. Well as far as Muslims are concerned, I'd better not mention the hatred the two Old Firm clubs have for each other.:D

I really hope it stays that way.

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just read they arrested a guy in Brisbane Australia in relation to all this, looks like for once their getting some good info?

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It Was Reported on tv last night that 5 of the 8 arrested are Doctors working in a local hospital,this just gets worse just who can you trust these days.:confused:

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its a trend that if correct concerns me,cos these scum are known for changing tactics/ targets.:(

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I remember when the IRA has a safe house on Bold Street in Accy, IIRC it had quite a supply stashed there.

Scarey when people in a position of trust and supposed to be healers can so easly change to become murderers.

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If as reported these people are indeed Doctors,then perhaps a rethink is needed on the terms and conditions that govern 'foreign' medical staff working in the UK.
Time to abandon the softly softly approach and time to close the ever open door(if indeed its not too late).
Once again the Government is seen kow-towing to the 'Community'not wishing to offend them by deleting the words Islam and Muslim from any terroist news briefing.
Once again I will state the obvious, We are all the community,we are all at risk and we all should seek to aprehend the culprits whatever our or their ethnic background.
The last day or two underlines the hate that some societies have for the U.K.and our way of life.It's time we all pulled together to defeat this growing threat.

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lets not get carried away no one as been found guilty yet

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No I suppose not ,the blokes in the Glasgow incident were probably lost and took a wrong turn!
But we will have to see,no doubt some of the detained may prove innocent,as the police have to cast a wide net.
My meandering point was that we are all in this together Muslim,C of E whatever and the open door policy is not working.

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2 more arrested in Blackburn

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I guess that anyone ordering large amounts of Calor Gas will now come under suspicion.

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As was said earler, no one has yet been charged, but if people who have taken the Hippocratic oath, to save and preserve life, are now involved with terrorism, something is very, very wrong in our society.

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Seems all 8 people arrested where connectd with the NHS. Not Good.

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well i always called em butchers,its not so funny now.:(

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"It was written in the Koran that all nations who should not have acknowledged the Muslims authority were sinners. It was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise." Abd al-Rahman al-Ajar, emissary of Tripoli, speaking to Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in 1785. Islam has always been a religion of conquest and submission. It's an old story.

We tried bribing the Muslims back then to leave our merchant shipping alone. Didn't work, any more than this PC nonsense will now.

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It was on the news this morning that the two arrested in Blackburn are no longer being held under the terrorist act. Seems all they were doing is farming cannabis :)

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so are you saying that we shouldnt call them terrorists/suicide bombers ?:confused:
what else do you call someone who tries to drive a car which is on fire and full of gas bottles through/into an airport full of people ?
its already been stated that the botched car bomb jobs in london and the one in glasgow are linked and done by the same people.. and that fact that one of the glasgow bombers is being held at the top security police station in glasow which is the one police station where you dont get put for nothing...

or was it all a big mistake and they got lost and crashed whilst reading a map ?

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They may not have been found guilty yet but if they are so hell bent on what is "aledgedly" said in the Koran then lets serve up justice that way to them. We pride ourselves on being civilised and the injured ones were treated at the hospital where they worked no different than if it had been another member of the public.

The Scottish Sun is running a campaign to get the 3 people that help tackle them medals and a site was set up in honour of one of them though the stress of it all has meant he is off work at the mo.

John Smeaton - Hero For Our Time · One Brave Weegie Takes on al-Qaeda

Something radical is needed because these numpties seem hell bent on causing death and destruction any way they can. Lets hope that Westminster has a major rethink and finds a way to stop this before they do. If they had succeeded in Glasgow it is innocents that die all because the Gov of the day aint got a set of balls and is crawling to the PC brigade and so called Human Rights laws. I have the right to live in safety free from the threat of violence and harm as does my daughter but the gutless goons in London value the rights of the wrong doers over mine. I wonder what they would do if they were sued by someone under Human Rights laws because they didnt feel safe and that the Gov was the reason they didnt feel safe?

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All they were doing is farming cannabis.... Hm and they will now probably moan that they were arreseted for the wrong offence... and no doubt get shed loads of cash: :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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john smeaton is the man of the moment - just an ordinary guy who ran at and belted the crazy guy who was on fire and put him on his back after he got out that jeep and attacked the police!..
his interview is now legendary and were broadcast live not long after it happened..watch them if you want a giggle as his description of events are colourful to say the least..a normal guy telling it as it is - in the normal way !

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I just saw a brief mention of taxi driver Alex McIlveen - another gentleman who ran over to give the two guys in the SUV a thumping. When he returned later to retrieve his taxi, he found a $60 parking ticket waiting for him! Also, the police confiscated his clothes, including an expensive pair of sneakers and doctors have told him that he kicked the men so hard that he damaged a tendon in his foot.

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one of the guys arrested at glasgow has now been charged.

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no prize for guessing which one?:D

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No **** sherlock. Wonder how much money this women gets paid for this job :mad:

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A lot of cash for not doing much apart from playing politics.

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know i'm a sarcastic git but the guy was running away from the burning 4x4 on film, also burning himself,which weve all known n seen,all week. how much more evidence do they need.:rolleyes: plus there was a rake of witnesses.

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I'm sure there will be a technicallity he can get off on. Probably forgot to dot an I or cross a T on the charge sheet

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just heard the doctor arrested in brisbane at the airport HAS been charged with supporting the London bomb plot. seems like a possible result this time?

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I like others find this absolutely appalling beyond belief. Wonder if they had brought any of their intended victims into their hospital, would they have helped to 'patch them up' so to speak or just refused .. on what grounds would they have given ?

Or was it their intention to do a runner if it had been successful? The mind boggles.