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lindsay ormerod 02-07-2007 19:47

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I kid you not folks . What used to be " Poundshrinker" on Broadway next to the fruit and veg shop is gonna be a huge charity shop . " Sense" have acquired the lease and shopfitting work is underway now. Great eh??

garinda 02-07-2007 19:51

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This is what HBC promised us!

The regeneration of Broadway has now attracted the big players.

Talk about specialisation!:(

park381 02-07-2007 19:52

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 443496)
I kid you not folks . What used to be " Poundshrinker" on Broadway next to the fruit and veg shop is gonna be a huge charity shop . " Sense" have acquired the lease and shopfitting work is underway now. Great eh??

Great News, at last the re-development of Accrington Town Centre, no need for the Whitebirk Retail Centre Now :D :D

harwood red 02-07-2007 19:54

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you'll be sorted you can get your white goods there instead..


nice john travolta suit anyway :D

garinda 02-07-2007 19:54

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 443501)
Great News, at last the re-development of Accrington Town Centre, no need for the Whitebirk Retail Centre Now :D :D

If Whitebirk goes ahead all the retail spaces in Accy will be charity shops.

lindsay ormerod 02-07-2007 19:54

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Oh we do specialise G; pound shops, charity shops and pie shops ! I am baffled that they had no other takers for that unit; the rent must be really low as it's been empty so long and it's not a bad size. It's privately owned btw, but all the same,surely we deserve better than this ???

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 20:14

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Another one???

AccyMad 02-07-2007 20:22

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I'll probably get shot down for this cos yes I know we have an abundance of charity shops already, but I work for Sense in one of their residential homes and we really are , for want of a better word a 'specialist' charity. For instance the home we have in Accrington is the first of it's kind this side of the Pennines, we provide a service specifically designed for providing deafblind people with a safe and secure environment to live in, and we really do need every penny we can get to keep this service going.

Less 02-07-2007 20:34

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 443536)
I'll probably get shot down for this cos yes I know we have an abundance of charity shops already, but I work for Sense in one of their residential homes and we really are , for want of a better word a 'specialist' charity. For instance the home we have in Accrington is the first of it's kind this side of the Pennines, we provide a service specifically designed for providing deafblind people with a safe and secure environment to live in, and we really do need every penny we can get to keep this service going.

I think you'll find that the people that have commented so far have nothing against 'Sense' or any of the other many charities that have taken advantage of our town centre. It is the fact that what once used to be a thriving little town centre that supported a diverse amount of shops popular both with locals and visitors from surrounding towns has had it's heart ripped out and is only a shadow of the bustling local community that it used to be.

This isn't the charities fault, they are taking advantage of empty shops and the rebates that being a charity offer because of the mismanagement that has occurred in Accrington over the years.
:o

blazey 02-07-2007 20:34

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Oh good, I wish every shop in accy was a charity shop, I would have a great time :D

Whys everyone else so glum about it? Cheap goodies are the best, and one mans junk is another mans treasure so they say!

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 20:37

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Omigosh I think I'm in danger of agreeing with Less again! There must be something wrong with me but I don't feel ill. :D

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 20:40

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 443536)
I'll probably get shot down for this cos yes I know we have an abundance of charity shops already, but I work for Sense in one of their residential homes and we really are , for want of a better word a 'specialist' charity. For instance the home we have in Accrington is the first of it's kind this side of the Pennines, we provide a service specifically designed for providing deafblind people with a safe and secure environment to live in, and we really do need every penny we can get to keep this service going.


How sad that such a worthwhile and necessary thing should have to be dependant on charity. It's a topsy turvey world we live in. I didn't even know we had such a specialised home in the area AccyMad.

blazey 02-07-2007 20:45

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Perhaps if people where taught to give to charity more like in Islam for example and it was made important in families then there wouldn't be need for shops as well filling up all the lots in the towns. Most people will prefer to teach their children to save their money than to 'waste' it, so its no surprise that charity shops are so wide scale and depended upon. People seem to only give if they recieve something in return.

I remember that when I was younger we had fairs to sell junk in school, so that we could give it to a charity. Now school funding is also low in some cases that the schools need to raise money for their own equipment and it defeats the whole lesson of giving to charity in a way.

lancsdave 02-07-2007 20:53

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 443554)
Perhaps if people where taught to give to charity more like in Islam for example


You mean like foreign aid ? :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2007 20:56

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Many people on limited budgets rely on charity shops for things, and if it benefits the charity then that is good too.
I give many things to charity shops........I don't have a lot of money to give to charity but I try to do my bit by recycling goods which are no longer necessary, but are too good to throw in the rubbish.

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 20:56

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In our church we have one day a month of fasting and the money we would have spent on food goes into a fund which worldwide helps out with all sorts of things from floods to famine and earthquakes etc. I think it does help teach children to think of others beyond themselves.

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2007 20:57

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I think Blazey means the 'tithe' system where they give one tenth of their earnings to the poor.

davo69 02-07-2007 20:57

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how much money gets to the charity?

blazey 02-07-2007 20:59

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 443564)
You mean like foreign aid ? :rolleyes:

I dont actually know what foreign aid is but in islam one of the pillars if that they should give to charity regularly.

I feel bad about it for them really as alot of them sign up for those direct debit charities that stop you in blackburn town centre and if I was to be completely honest, there is no way I would ever give to them, especially not with my bank details in the middle of the street.

Most of the muslim girls at college whom I know openly give to charity and always help out with the charity events at college. Its mainly the asians that do the charity work in comparison to the white students.

Didn't a local MP say around the time of Caneze Riaz' death that it is a time for communities to come together and learn rom eachother? Charity was one of the points brought up.

WillowTheWhisp 02-07-2007 20:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 443569)
I think Blazey means the 'tithe' system where they give one tenth of their earnings to the poor.

They do have an 'alms giving' thing as one of the pillars of their religion though don't they? I think it's an admirable think to incorporate into one's way of life.

;) we do the tithing bit too.

garinda 02-07-2007 21:00

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Slightly off topic, so appologies, but whilst trying to lull myself to sleep last night, I was counting how many stalls we've lost from the outside market, since the powers that be decided it would be a good idea to move it, in the name of regeneration.

Toy stall, three fabric stalls, six fruit and veg stalls, three shoe stalls, two greeting card stalls, plus a corset seller, a roast chicken stall, and a cheese stall, from the lock up units on the way into the market from Peel Street.

Anyone think of anymore?

blazey 02-07-2007 21:01

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 443569)
I think Blazey means the 'tithe' system where they give one tenth of their earnings to the poor.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 443567)
Many people on limited budgets rely on charity shops for things, and if it benefits the charity then that is good too.
I give many things to charity shops........I don't have a lot of money to give to charity but I try to do my bit by recycling goods which are no longer necessary, but are too good to throw in the rubbish.

Yes thats what I meant and yes, I also try to give alot of old books to charity once I've had use for them, as books are quite expensive and its good that you can let others have yours for cheap and rummage throug theirs! Being on a students income (very little as unable to work right now) I make alot of use of charity shops! Unfortunatly for me not one charity shop in accy had any pans the other day, but now I am getting some for free thanks to a very charitable person on the forum :)

davo69 02-07-2007 21:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443574)
Slightly off topic, so appologies, but whilst trying to lull myself to sleep last night, I was counting how many stalls we've lost from the outside market, since the powers that be decided it would be a good idea to move it, in the name of regeneration.

Toy stall, three fabric stalls, six fruit and veg stalls, three shoe stalls, two greeting card stalls, plus a corset seller, a roast chicken stall, and a cheese stall, from the lock up units on the way into the market from Peel Street.

Anyone think of anymore?

slightly off topic?

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2007 21:03

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I think the people who do work for charity and don't mention it to anyone are the ones who should be acclaimed.
Blazey just because some of the Caucasian students do not appear to be doing any charity work doesn't mean they aren't......they may just be a bit more reticent about it.

lindsay ormerod 02-07-2007 21:04

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I have nothing against any of the charity shops or the charities behind them; I always fill the sacks that come thru the door for British Heart foundation or whoever and I give regularly to charities of my choice; my point was that a once thriving shopping street is now occupied by 4 charity shops already and another one opening; yet there is nowhere in Accy to buy sensibly priced work clothes or shoes !

blazey 02-07-2007 21:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443574)
Slightly off topic, so appologies, but whilst trying to lull myself to sleep last night, I was counting how many stalls we've lost from the outside market, since the powers that be decided it would be a good idea to move it, in the name of regeneration.

Toy stall, three fabric stalls, six fruit and veg stalls, three shoe stalls, two greeting card stalls, plus a corset seller, a roast chicken stall, and a cheese stall, from the lock up units on the way into the market from Peel Street.

Anyone think of anymore?

Its not just moving it thats caused the problem. Its being to by very cheap new goods in chain stores like asda, particular when it comes to fresh foods like fish, fruit and veg, and meat, plus it appears much better as its in cleaner surroundings.

garinda 02-07-2007 21:05

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New road sign.:D



WHERE CHARITY BEGINS....

WELCOME TO ACCRINGTON AND DISTRICTS.

shakermaker 02-07-2007 21:07

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I'd rather have a Charity shop than a pound shop any day of the week.
Saying that, I don't even bother looking around Accy anymore, even though it's only 10 minutes walk from my house.
Now Music Zone is gone, Accy is left with a pointless chain of pointless shops.
Even established stores like WH Smiths have very poor stock in Accrington.
It's a crap state of affairs.

Give me Oldham Street in Manchester any day.

blazey 02-07-2007 21:08

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 443577)
I think the people who do work for charity and don't mention it to anyone are the ones who should be acclaimed.
Blazey just because some of the Caucasian students do not appear to be doing any charity work doesn't mean they aren't......they may just be a bit more reticent about it.

I mean on charity days at college. I was on the student commitee, i'd notice if any of them were helping behind the curtain, but again, its the coloured girls who step forward to offer ideas and think of charities to raise money for in the first place.

I must say I never think to do charity events either, I would be one who suggests to do it for our own better education funding and equipment. However I would say I give quite alot to charity as I buy nearly everything from charity shops. Most students in general at college dont tend to be so happy to discuss charity shops as me :p im always quite pleased with my bargains!

blazey 02-07-2007 21:09

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 443583)
I'd rather have a Charity shop than a pound shop any day of the week.
Saying that, I don't even bother looking around Accy anymore, even though it's only 10 minutes walk from my house.
Now Music Zone is gone, Accy is left with a pointless chain of pointless shops.
Even established stores like WH Smiths have very poor stock in Accrington.
It's a crap state of affairs.

Give me Oldham Street in Manchester any day.

I miss music box as well and all I ever did was sit around and natter all day. Cant wait for them to sort the shop back out again.

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2007 21:13

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Pensioners too, go to the charity shops. Last year I took 3 winter coats...nothing wrong with them I had just got fed up of them.....and one elderly lady (I have to be careful here, because I now fall into that category...but she was older than me)bought two of them and said what a God send it was, to find something warm that she could afford.

blazey 02-07-2007 21:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 443592)
Pensioners too, go to the charity shops. Last year I took 3 winter coats...nothing wrong with them I had just got fed up of them.....and one elderly lady (I have to be careful here, because I now fall into that category...but she was older than me)bought two of them and said what a God send it was, to find something warm that she could afford.


Oooh I got a lovely wool coat that was practically new, a debenhams one, and I paid £3.95 for it. Its a really good coat but I dont wear it too often now as I think it makes my bum look big! It will certainly be a god send in the winter though!

Pensioners are the nice ones who tend to give their books back to the charity shops :D got to love them for that.

mani 02-07-2007 23:39

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i just took around 3 black bin liners of clothes to that salvation bin in asda car park - full of either mine or the daughters ex clothing

or would it have served a better purpose in a charity shop?

panther 03-07-2007 06:06

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i like looking in the pound charity shop:D, cuz im a tight git!!
but accy doesnt need another one, all we need now is a tower and we will be like blackpool:)

davo69 03-07-2007 06:45

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 443673)
i just took around 3 black bin liners of clothes to that salvation bin in asda car park - full of either mine or the daughters ex clothing

or would it have served a better purpose in a charity shop?

much better at a charity shop .super markets recycling are sometimes private business and the clothes dont get reused as clothes

park381 03-07-2007 07:19

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 443505)
If Whitebirk goes ahead all the retail spaces in Accy will be charity shops.

Not far off that now in Accy centre :rolleyes:

park381 03-07-2007 07:22

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 443506)
Oh we do specialise G; pound shops, charity shops and pie shops ! I am baffled that they had no other takers for that unit; the rent must be really low as it's been empty so long and it's not a bad size. It's privately owned btw, but all the same,surely we deserve better than this ???

Would have thought our "Council" would have had some thing to say about yet another charity shop.

park381 03-07-2007 07:25

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 443536)
I'll probably get shot down for this cos yes I know we have an abundance of charity shops already, but I work for Sense in one of their residential homes and we really are , for want of a better word a 'specialist' charity. For instance the home we have in Accrington is the first of it's kind this side of the Pennines, we provide a service specifically designed for providing deafblind people with a safe and secure environment to live in, and we really do need every penny we can get to keep this service going.

We have a thriving Blind Society in Accrington, they recently refurbished their premises on Bank st at a cost of some £95,000+ funded by their own charity work.

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 08:19

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Yes but does the RNIB have a capability or facilities to help those who are blind and deaf?

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 08:20

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 443681)
i like looking in the pound charity shop:D, cuz im a tight git!!
but accy doesnt need another one, all we need now is a tower and we will be like blackpool:)

We could stick one on the Coppice and call it a Panopticon (sorry Gayle, I couldn't help myself.);)

park381 03-07-2007 08:44

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Could all be part of the masterplan.
Accrington Observer - Town's masterplan will be vision of the future

Note the comments of Councillor Jean Battle at the end of the article

AccyMad 03-07-2007 09:15

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 443580)
I have nothing against any of the charity shops or the charities behind them; I always fill the sacks that come thru the door for British Heart foundation or whoever and I give regularly to charities of my choice; my point was that a once thriving shopping street is now occupied by 4 charity shops already and another one opening; yet there is nowhere in Accy to buy sensibly priced work clothes or shoes !

Yea I realise that Lindsey and I know you weren't having a go at the charities who have these shops, just thought I'd give a bit of background to this one as I hadn't heard of them until I got the job I now have

grego 03-07-2007 09:17

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I've nothing against charity shops but dont want a town centre full of them, there's nothing in Accrington to attract the shoppers who want to spend their money, sad really to see the town centre in the state its in.

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 09:18

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When I saw the headlines outside the paper shop I was silly enough to think that some plans had actually been drawn up and that something was going to happen at last. :D I should have known better shouldn't I?

When I read the article it turns out to be another non story about meetings about plans to have a meeting to make some plans.
:rolleyes:

AccyMad 03-07-2007 09:22

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 443695)
We have a thriving Blind Society in Accrington, they recently refurbished their premises on Bank st at a cost of some £95,000+ funded by their own charity work.

Yes I know they do, my grandma was very much an active member of the Blind Society when she was alive but deafblindness is totally different.Our five residents are all registered as deafblind, they also all have severe learning difficulties & display varying challenging behaviours.

***Mr D*** 03-07-2007 10:05

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Suppose a charity shop is better than an empty shop.

davo69 03-07-2007 10:12

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more charity shops and pound shops there are will not encourage big shops and names to the town center the council by allowing it to happen are in my opinion driving the big guns away.

Less 03-07-2007 10:15

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 443737)
Suppose a charity shop is better than an empty shop.

Yes, but if you planned to open a shop of your own would you want to be surrounded by charity shops or be part of a bustling business community made up of like minded people? I think most people with money to invest would head for a different and busier centre.

***Mr D*** 03-07-2007 10:27

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 443744)
Yes, but if you planned to open a shop of your own would you want to be surrounded by charity shops or be part of a bustling business community made up of like minded people? I think most people with money to invest would head for a different and busier centre.

Totally agree with you on that one. but surrounded by empty shop may give a worse impression.

Bit like Warner Street, the bottom end near the arcade looks bad as it empty all the trade has gone. even the stationers (tattersalls) that I can remember being there, well as far as I can remember.

Catch 22.

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 11:17

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Has Tattersalls gone? Crikey I hadn't noticed that.

***Mr D*** 03-07-2007 11:50

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443764)
Has Tattersalls gone? Crikey I hadn't noticed that.

Yes.

Looks sad down the bottom now.

blazey 03-07-2007 12:31

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 443774)
Yes.

Looks sad down the bottom now.

There is a damn good little cafe there though that does cracking hot dinners for lunch time! Jacket spuds and lots of yummy fillings, fresh sandwiches hot and cold. Mmmm my boyfriend showed me that shop. yum yum.

I can't say i'd mind if accy was taken over by charity shops but then, as a student, theyre brilliant for me, and they're good for the older people. The ones in the middle have all the basic shops, and you got to remember that the larger chain stores just aren't coming to accy as they make more money investing more into online stores than little stores that could be a liability.

***Mr D*** 03-07-2007 13:03

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 443790)
There is a damn good little cafe there though that does cracking hot dinners for lunch time! Jacket spuds and lots of yummy fillings, fresh sandwiches hot and cold. Mmmm my boyfriend showed me that shop. yum yum.

Yes that is a good cafe, the guy that ownes it is also sound.:)

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 13:54

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Which cafe is that? Have I been missing out on an Accy cafe? I only know the one in the Arcade round that way and the butty/pie shop. Is that a cafe too?

***Mr D*** 03-07-2007 14:38

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443818)
Which cafe is that? Have I been missing out on an Accy cafe? I only know the one in the Arcade round that way and the butty/pie shop. Is that a cafe too?

Divine its called, used to be Soup.

blazey 03-07-2007 15:21

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 443849)
Divine its called, used to be Soup.

I'm not thinking of that one, that ones further up. Therea right litlte one further ndown near the barbers (if thats still there) and its got a breakfast bar type thing inside and a little table. Right nice little place.

Theres a new mother and baby orientated cafe down from argos as well, though everyones welcome, its a bit more expensive but nice place to go for a coffee.

grego 03-07-2007 15:28

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I haven't tried that new mother and baby one yet, though its good that there's one geared up for breast feeding, some of the cafes dont like you going in with a pram so at least I know I'd be welcome there.

blazey 03-07-2007 15:31

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 443872)
I haven't tried that new mother and baby one yet, though its good that there's one geared up for breast feeding, some of the cafes dont like you going in with a pram so at least I know I'd be welcome there.

Its very spacious and clean, the only reason I went in is because I saw I had a friend from high school working there and I fancied a natter :p the lady who runs it is very nice aswell and I believe she has some stuff for sale in the back rooms but obviously I never ventured in that far. Its only been open a few months.

grego 03-07-2007 15:43

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I'll have to give it a try next time I'm down town.

lindsay ormerod 03-07-2007 18:09

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Cafe/sandwich place you are on about is Bishop's ;next to the Warners. Extremely good value and great variety of sarnies !

blazey 03-07-2007 18:51

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 443933)
Cafe/sandwich place you are on about is Bishop's ;next to the Warners. Extremely good value and great variety of sarnies !

Yeh thats the one! Its really good prices and its all filling. There's nothing worse than buying your dinner and it not filling you up.

WillowTheWhisp 03-07-2007 19:06

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That was the one I was thinking of when I said I just think of it as a pie and butty shop. I forgot about the breakfast bar.

blazey 03-07-2007 19:08

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 443956)
That was the one I was thinking of when I said I just think of it as a pie and butty shop. I forgot about the breakfast bar.

When you said that it made me think of the cafe inside the arcade, because thats all I go there for, i never sit in. That cafe do the BEST butties but u have to sit down with it or you slop all the salad down yourself!


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