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panther 04-07-2007 17:58

weekly bin collections to start again.....
 
in blackburn!

Weekly Bin Collections To Start Again (from Lancashire Telegraph)

wonder if it will catch on over here, im not bothered if it doesnt, since the fortnightly scheme, i reduced my bins from 4 a week to 4 a fortnight:D
thanks to me recycling:D:rolleyes:

garinda 04-07-2007 21:42

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I'm quite happy with fortnightly collections.

I think the people who complain of more vermin being around, have a screw loose.

Wheelie bins have attached lids, unlike the old dustbins and black sacks, which were easy pickings for any dog/cat/fox worth it's salt.

Lilly 04-07-2007 21:50

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We struggled somewhat with fortnightly collections when my daughter was in nappies,particularly in the summer months.Let me tell you,the honk of fortnight old poo in a heatwave was atrocious.Every time we opened the bin lid we would pass out.We couldn't cope in the end and had to resort to putting the nappies in a bin bag in the car and taking them up to the tip in between collections.We used to drive up to the tip with pegs on our noses and all the car windows wound down! Anyway,now she's 3 and out of nappies we manage fine on fortnightly collections,no problem:D

blazey 04-07-2007 22:00

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I struggle every bin night with our bin and we recycle too. I dont know what is going wrong but my mum seems to manage filling loads and loads of bin bags and I'm the one who has to take them out on bin night.

I knocked the bin over the overnight accidently and wasn't strong enough to pick it back up, plus i had a pulled muscle that night in my kneck. Was a nightmare pulling it back up but I eventually did it.

Im normally at my boyfriends house all the time and they have 3 wheelie bins just to fit all their rubbish in, they fill three tin can tubs and more than their paper bag.
Glad I dont have to put all that out on bin/recycling night though. I still have to put bin bags just out as they are unless someone has space in their bin. The bin men never complain though.

WillowTheWhisp 04-07-2007 22:02

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Yes the houses across the road from us have sacks because the bin wagon can't get up the back to deal with wheelie bins and they have steps up the front.

I know a weekly collection will only confuse me now but I do think it's preferable.

MargaretR 04-07-2007 22:03

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I live in a flat and I have a bin to myself - dont make much waste - would take me 6 weeks to fill it *- and I only put out recyclables every 4 weeks.
*Ps - but the bin men still empty it fortnightly even though its only got 4 carrier bags in it

Royboy39 04-07-2007 22:06

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 444521)
I live in a flat and I have a bin to myself - dont make much waste - takes me 6 weeks to fill it - and I only put out recyclables every 4 weeks.

If you have a flat on the ground floor you will have a bin.
The second and subsequent floors if there are any will not have bins.

Lilly 04-07-2007 22:07

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 444525)
If you have a flat on the ground floor you will have a bin.
The second and subsequent floors if there are any will not have bins.

What do they do with their rubbish then?:confused:

blazey 04-07-2007 22:08

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 444526)
What do they do with their rubbish then?:confused:

chuck it over the side ;)

MargaretR 04-07-2007 22:09

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My flat is up a flight of 13 steps/ 1st floor

Royboy39 04-07-2007 22:09

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 444526)
What do they do with their rubbish then?:confused:

They have to store it in sheds until collection time.

Lilly 04-07-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 444531)
They have to store it in sheds until collection time.

What in,if they haven't got a bin?:confused:

Royboy39 04-07-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 444529)
My flat is up a flight of 13 steps/ 1st floor

Where is the bin?

cashman 04-07-2007 22:12

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could happily live with fornightly, if was provided with PROPER RECEPTICALS, the sack full of cans etc n the blue box with glass is bloody useless, has to be carried through the house (dripping wet) in this weather, late at night, cos the yobbos scatter em all over the garden if it happens to suit em, and the collection is very early morning. why the hell we do not get 2/3 wheelie bins like other councils do is totally beyond me, n beyond the cretins at HBC. my daughter lives out of Hyndburn has a baby (plenty of crap) and her 3 work fine.:mad:

Tombraider 04-07-2007 22:12

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My bin smells terrible at the end of the two weeks with 70 odd dirty baby nappies in there.

MargaretR 04-07-2007 22:14

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 444536)
Where is the bin?

Outside the front door - but the other 3 flat occupiers keep theirs at the back - I prefer mine at the front because there is no vehicle access at the back and it means they drag their bins a long way on collection day.

Lilly 04-07-2007 22:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 444538)
could happily live with fornightly, if was provided with PROPER RECEPTICALS, the sack full of cans etc n the blue box with glass is bloody useless, has to be carried through the house (dripping wet) in this weather, late at night, cos the yobbos scatter em all over the garden if it happens to suit em, and the collection is very early morning. why the hell we do not get 2/3 wheelie bins like other councils do is totally beyond me, n beyond the cretins at HBC. my daughter lives out of Hyndburn has a baby (plenty of crap) and her 3 work fine.:mad:

Some people only have very small back yards and would not have room for 3 big bins.We don't have to carry our blue box through our house as we have a side gate but I sympathise with anyone who has to cart the box through their house.It must be awful when it's dripping all over your carpet.:(

cashman 04-07-2007 22:27

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 444542)
Some people only have very small back yards and would not have room for 3 big bins.We don't have to carry our blue box through our house as we have a side gate but I sympathise with anyone who has to cart the box through their house.It must be awful when it's dripping all over your carpet.:(

ours aint that big lilly,but can see what yer saying,can also understand the problem for those with flats etc, my main point is this council understands buggar all.;)

harwood red 04-07-2007 22:31

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got to say though I actually agree with him :D I love fortnightly collections. only having to drag bin out once a fortnight... but think we should have smaller wheelie bins for recyclables

garinda 04-07-2007 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 444521)
I live in a flat and I have a bin to myself - dont make much waste - would take me 6 weeks to fill it *- and I only put out recyclables every 4 weeks.
*Ps - but the bin men still empty it fortnightly even though its only got 4 carrier bags in it

The other people I know who live in flats in Hyndburn have either their own wheelie bin too, or shared wheelie bins. I can't speak for Blackburn, as happily I don't live there.:D

There are less and less black bags left about as a result, and you see less of them ripped open by dogs/cats, and therefore less likey to attract vermin, in my humble opinion.:)

cashman 04-07-2007 23:22

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There are less and less black bags left about as a result, and you see less of them ripped open by dogs/cats, and therefore less likey to attract vermin, in my humble opinion.---------------------------------------------- agree on that also in the "old dustbin holes" attracted more vermin than the wheelie bins.

garinda 04-07-2007 23:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 444582)
agree on that also in the "old dustbin holes" attracted more vermin than the wheelie bins.

Any hungry mut could have one of the old bins over, and the lid off, and be enjoying a dog's dinner, in seconds.:D

davo69 05-07-2007 08:55

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ther is me my wife 18 year old son 15 year old daughter and for us we have no problem with fortnightly collections we recycle so much now are bin is still not full.but i do agree when you have babies its not fun with nappies

lindsay ormerod 05-07-2007 09:36

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My neighbour uses some kind of nappy recycling scheme; she has clean terry nappies delivered and the dirty ones taken away, think it's once a week. Not sure on the cost but it's got to be more enviro friendly and maybe works out even cheaper ??

mothernature 05-07-2007 09:57

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I live in this dismal town called Blackburn and believe you me fortnightly collections are awful. Even though I'm vegetarian and don't use many things that can't be recycled my bin stinks something rotten. Cat litter and dog faeces being the main items thrown away. As for the little boxes they provide for recycling mine is full within a couple of days because of pet food tins. I'd be in real trouble if my kids were still at home. Just a thought as well, has anyone tried washing out the tins with the pull rings. I attempted to do so when the scheme first started and learnt pretty quick not to do so with anything but a dish brush. Even those get cut to shreds after a few washes.

Royboy39 05-07-2007 10:35

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Blackburn with Darwen collect refuse from 60,000 properties.
80% (48,000) have wheelie bins, 20% (12,000) use council issued refuse sacks.
Households have to self store the bags sometimes for up to two weeks.

Hyndburn have a question and answer page about collections:

Refuse in Hyndburn - Your questions answered

garinda 05-07-2007 10:36

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 444663)
My neighbour uses some kind of nappy recycling scheme; she has clean terry nappies delivered and the dirty ones taken away, think it's once a week. Not sure on the cost but it's got to be more enviro friendly and maybe works out even cheaper ??


If you are feeling green, and not just at the thought of washing all those nappies (:D), here's a link to LCC's site, which has details about collection services in the county, and which will help keep your wheelie bins smelling fresher, and our landfill sites from being full of disposable nappies.


Lancashire County Council Environment Directorate: Waste Management

MargaretR 05-07-2007 10:44

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What is wrong with washing terry nappies yourself?
The solid soil is first removed by a toilet flush and then they are placed in a bucket of water with disinfectant until they total a washload.
When I was working mother with a child aged 13 months I found the time and it is certainly much cheaper than using disposables.

garinda 05-07-2007 10:56

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 444674)
What is wrong with washing terry nappies yourself?
The solid soil is first removed by a toilet flush and then they are placed in a bucket of water with disinfectant until they total a washload.
When I was working mother with a child aged 13 months I found the time and it is certainly much cheaper than using disposables.

You're right, there's nothing wrong with washing them yourself, generations of women did it.

It is certainly the cheapest method, and the most environmentally friendly.

Apparently it will take five hundred years for a disposable nappy to decompose in a landfill site...yuk!:eek:

entwisi 05-07-2007 11:58

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We looked into the recycleable nappies when Siobhan was born. They cost more than buying brand name nappies and then the enviromental impact is rarely considered correctly. the disposable will take years to decompose(although they are using better materials now and research means it will only get better) but they use no energy in that process, in fact, they produce methane which can be captured and used. The 'green' nappy scheme uses cloth nappies with a liner(made of teh same stuff as nappies) which is thrown away or flushed down teh loo. However the material parts are washed and sterilised before reuse which uses energy to heat the water and run the machines, detergent which is finding its way into the water table via rivers and streams often to the adverse effects on local wildlife etc. There is also the collection and delivery wagons burning fossil fuels and emmitting all sorts of dodgy gases(both in running and the initial manufacture/decommissioning of said vehicle) to make sure that you have your clean supply.


Its a shame that people very rarely consider the complete environmental impact of something before claiming its green status. I have recently started car sharing with a guy from Burnley. He drives a Toyota Prius. He bought it for its 'green' status. now I've enlightened him regarding just how dirty they are end to end lifecycle he's rather embarrassed about the whole thing. e.g. my 180,000 mile Volvo on LPG is significantly 'greener' /mile than his car will ever be.

cashman 05-07-2007 12:46

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 444709)


Its a shame that people very rarely consider the complete environmental impact of something before claiming its green status. I have recently started car sharing with a guy from Burnley. He drives a Toyota Prius. He bought it for its 'green' status. now I've enlightened him regarding just how dirty they are end to end lifecycle he's rather embarrassed about the whole thing. e.g. my 180,000 mile Volvo on LPG is significantly 'greener' /mile than his car will ever be.

he may consider dumping you ian,somepeople are like that!:D

blazey 05-07-2007 12:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 444681)
You're right, there's nothing wrong with washing them yourself, generations of women did it.

It is certainly the cheapest method, and the most environmentally friendly.

Apparently it will take five hundred years for a disposable nappy to decompose in a landfill site...yuk!:eek:


Yeh and in this day and age men should get their equal share of washing them too, so its even easier than before.

garinda 05-07-2007 13:15

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 444723)
Yeh and in this day and age men should get their equal share of washing them too, so its even easier than before.

I was talking from a historical perspective, in the pre-disposable nappy age.

When Daddies went a huntin', and Mummies stayed at home and looked after Baby Buntin'.:D

Lilly 05-07-2007 15:23

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 444663)
My neighbour uses some kind of nappy recycling scheme; she has clean terry nappies delivered and the dirty ones taken away, think it's once a week. Not sure on the cost but it's got to be more enviro friendly and maybe works out even cheaper ??

One of my neighbours uses this service too.Even though my daughter's only 3 it wasn't around when she was born.I would look into it and consider it if I were to have another baby though.Nothing wrong with washing them yourself,women who had babies years ago had to do this,they had no choice as disposables had not been invented.

***Mr D*** 05-07-2007 17:12

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I think it should be once a week. I nearly always have over spill.

I blame the manufacurers of products, so much waste for such little product.

Also having people come round quite often with there added rubbish, take away, shop items ect it builds up.

blazey 05-07-2007 17:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 444731)
I was talking from a historical perspective, in the pre-disposable nappy age.

When Daddies went a huntin', and Mummies stayed at home and looked after Baby Buntin'.:D

Yeh I understood what you said the first time, I just added that women can still cope even better as men do their share of household and family things these days aswell.

panther 05-07-2007 18:45

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some men do there share, most dont;)

lancsdave 05-07-2007 20:15

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 444853)
some men do there share, most dont;)


Very stereotypical, and years out of date :D

WillowTheWhisp 05-07-2007 21:09

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From reading this thread it's obvious that there is no one solution which would suit everyone.

We would have difficulty finding somewhere to put more than one wheelie bin but I do wish they would collect recyclables from round the back like the wheelie bin. We are fortunate in that we live close enough to the end of the row as to make carrying the stuff round a viable option. It must be awful for the people who have to carry dripping wet filth through their house. It's not as if they could store the containers inside and keep them clean as they have to go outside on collection day anyway and it could be teeming with rain.


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