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ploppysirploppy 09-07-2007 12:07

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I've just briefly watched the footage of Kevin Davis on the news. I'm crying and thinking how sick these people can be.... :(
Lea
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Less 09-07-2007 12:10

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Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 446317)
I've just briefly watched the footage of Kevin Davis on the news. I'm crying and thinking how sick these people can be.... :(
Lea
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???????????:confused: Thanks for that would you care to expand on what you are talking about?

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 12:14

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I was wondering too.

garinda 09-07-2007 12:15

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 446319)
???????????:confused: Thanks for that would you care to expand on what you are talking about?


I haven't seen the news today either, so Googled this.

BBC NEWS | England | Gloucestershire | Victim had to make hostage video


Thwy do send like inhuman sadists.

Lolly 09-07-2007 12:19

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Why do people do this sort of thing!??

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 12:19

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You're a better googler than I Rindy. I kept getting something about an ex-MP.

I too am shocked and horrified at what those three did.

SPUGGIE J 09-07-2007 12:38

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What they did was horrific and the murder charge should never have been dropped as they definately had something in mind. Want to throw up at the thought of this happening. :mad:

jambutty 09-07-2007 12:42

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I am so disgusted at what happened that words fails me.

davo69 09-07-2007 12:53

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shocking went all cold reading it

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 13:01

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Technically the murder charge had to be dropped because it could be argued that they hadn't planned to kill him and had he not been epileptic then he would still be alive but I think death was probably a blessed release for him under the circumstances and it's a pity they couldn't have been given longer sentences.There are not adequate words to describe such depraved examples of humanity.

Doug 09-07-2007 13:06

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Horrific. I hope the lad is now at peace, as for the vile bastards that have done this; I think these people should have a bullet to the back of the head.

cashman 09-07-2007 13:25

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 446348)
Horrific. I hope the lad is now at peace, as for the vile bastards that have done this; I think these people should have a bullet to the back of the head.

agree entirely Doug, no doubt some fool will say that we are wrong to think like this.

Doug 09-07-2007 14:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 446353)
agree entirely Doug, no doubt some fool will say that we are wrong to think like this.

Not be first time Cashy. There's always a few. For many years I have believed in the absolute right to life and that no man as the right to take a life of another, but. I am sick to the back teeth of seeing depraved acts like this going unpunished or excuses being made for such actions. Shoot the bastards and have done with it

ploppysirploppy 09-07-2007 14:07

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Sorry about not explainin' it..... it really angrys me... I agree with you all
Lea
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SPUGGIE J 09-07-2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 446367)
Sorry about not explainin' it..... it really angrys me... I agree with you all
Lea
x

Under the circumstances the anger hindered you and understand why. The scumbags got of lightly and its a pity their incarciration will be 5 star compared to what the poor victim got. :mad:

Wynonie Harris 09-07-2007 15:06

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Another terrible crime...another totally inadequate sentence...seems like we've been here before, many times.

How long before the silent majority in this country tell the politicians with one voice, "forget about the do-gooders, listen to US and crack down on the criminals...hard!"

SPUGGIE J 09-07-2007 16:57

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 446382)
Another terrible crime...another totally inadequate sentence...seems like we've been here before, many times.

How long before the silent majority in this country tell the politicians with one voice, "forget about the do-gooders, listen to US and crack down on the criminals...hard!"

Not much chance of that since the way the law is structured the aledged perpitrator has my rights than the victims. Its bonkers because whatever party gets in they will not uphold any pledge on this in my view huge and important issue.

panther 09-07-2007 17:24

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:mad:just seen this on bbc news, that poor man and what he went through, the poor sod trusted anyone and this is how he's treated.........disgusting!:mad:

SPUGGIE J 09-07-2007 17:30

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If he was imprisoned by them and was epileptic and he had no access to his medication then to me that is deliberate and intentional therefore is murder. If he was free he would be taking his medication and therefore more likely to survive an attack.

***Mr D*** 09-07-2007 17:44

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Sick, just Sick. :mad:

My thoughs go out to his family.

garinda 09-07-2007 17:49

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I wonder if these 'people' were smacked as children?

If they were, they weren't smacked hard enough.

panther 09-07-2007 17:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 446420)
I wonder if these 'people' were smacked as children?

If they were, they weren't smacked hard enough.

i agree with that one;)

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 18:18

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 446411)
If he was imprisoned by them and was epileptic and he had no access to his medication then to me that is deliberate and intentional therefore is murder. If he was free he would be taking his medication and therefore more likely to survive an attack.


Spot on Spuggie. They were the direct cause of his death no two ways about it as far as I can see.

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 18:20

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 446420)
I wonder if these 'people' were smacked as children?

If they were, they weren't smacked hard enough.

And they aren't even getting punished enough now for the horrible things they did to this poor chap.

Gayle 09-07-2007 18:29

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 446420)
I wonder if these 'people' were smacked as children?

If they were, they weren't smacked hard enough.

Aren't people who were abused more likely to become abusers - so suspect they might have been smacked a bit too much.

garinda 09-07-2007 19:26

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 446449)
Aren't people who were abused more likely to become abusers - so suspect they might have been smacked a bit too much.

I don't think smacking is abuse.

cashman 09-07-2007 19:36

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 446449)
Aren't people who were abused more likely to become abusers - so suspect they might have been smacked a bit too much.

dont agree with that at all, big differance between a smack n a hiding, no wonder societys gone to pot.:rolleyes: sometimes a smack is necessary even though it hurts you more n them.

Less 09-07-2007 20:02

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Oh now come on you namby pamby crowd, obviously he is the exact example, he obviously deserved what he got but the administrators of this punishment have been given a raw deal, or have I been wrong all my life?

When will those of you that are against Capital Punishment admit that there are some people that can never be saved and we would be better without them? :mad:

Gayle 09-07-2007 20:29

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 446485)
dont agree with that at all, big differance between a smack n a hiding, no wonder societys gone to pot.:rolleyes: sometimes a smack is necessary even though it hurts you more n them.


By using the phrase 'smacked a bit too much' I was saying 'a hiding'.

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 20:43

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Quite often it's kids who have never been disciplined and who have walked all over the adults in their lives who then go on to think that they can do the same throughout their life and end up abusing others when they don't get their own way.

I would love someone to do some serious research into this. Maybe then we'd get sense at last.

mallard 09-07-2007 21:48

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Yes i saw that my self,and it was sick how can they do this.

SPUGGIE J 09-07-2007 22:33

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 446504)
Quite often it's kids who have never been disciplined and who have walked all over the adults in their lives who then go on to think that they can do the same throughout their life and end up abusing others when they don't get their own way.

I would love someone to do some serious research into this. Maybe then we'd get sense at last.

Chances are they have done the research but darnt release it to the public because it will undo all the work the do-gooders have done. Lilly livered moderates sowed the wind and now we reap the wirlwind and they are in hiding.

WillowTheWhisp 09-07-2007 23:37

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I'm inclined to agree with you there Spuggie.

Rosebud 09-07-2007 23:42

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 446490)
Oh now come on you namby pamby crowd, obviously he is the exact example, he obviously deserved what he got but the administrators of this punishment have been given a raw deal, or have I been wrong all my life?

When will those of you that are against Capital Punishment admit that there are some people that can never be saved and we would be better without them? :mad:


Never because capital punishment is not the answer. I do not wish to save these people nor do I wish to kill them.

Wynonie Harris 10-07-2007 07:32

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 446634)
I do not wish to save these people nor do I wish to kill them.

So what do you wish to do with them? Perhaps you think the sentences they were given are adequate? With time off for this and that, I'm sure they'll be out in a few years, ready to wreak havoc on some other poor sod. Perhaps you think that's an acceptable state of affairs?

cashman 10-07-2007 10:13

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 446634)
Never because capital punishment is not the answer. I do not wish to save these people nor do I wish to kill them.

Please enlighten us with the treatment then.

SPUGGIE J 10-07-2007 11:21

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 446634)
Never because capital punishment is not the answer. I do not wish to save these people nor do I wish to kill them.

Now thats a very large contrediction there and I cant fathom out why.

We dont have to kill them so sentance them to life without parole and in solitary confinement. Oh sorry cant do that its against their human rights to do that. They caused the death of a vunerable innocent person with their actions videoed the humiliation starved him oh and dont forget tortured him. Where were his human rights in this?

Sitting on the fence is not the answer because that has lead to half the problems we have because people cant/wont say/do anything about it!!

WillowTheWhisp 10-07-2007 11:35

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 446726)

Sitting on the fence is not the answer because that has lead to half the problems we have because people cant/wont say/do anything about it!!


How very true and this is one fence which needs to be demolished before things get even worse.

Stanaccy 10-07-2007 20:46

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Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 446634)
Never because capital punishment is not the answer. I do not wish to save these people nor do I wish to kill them.


There is half a statement I agree with :). Capital punishment is never the answer as all it does is lower ourselves to depths of the protaganist.

Also it is a self defeating ideal. (How many times can you kill someone, if they kill once they are more likely to kill again as there is no more that can be done.)

Yes these 3 scumbags should be banged up for a good length of time and let the general prison populace know how they killed this poor unfortunate soul. Yes prison is meant to be a punishment but it is also meant to be a rehabilitation.

So yes rehabiltate but also make them suffer in the meanwhile.


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