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Surely they can't really intend to set fire to this???? :eek:

The pyre of tyres

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Yes they might but I think its a nice piece of art. :D

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Gayle can probably get them a grant for it. ;)

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Are they a law unto themselves in the North of Ireland? it is against the law to dispose of tyres in this manner. The toxic fumes will be terrible for the poor people who live near the fire, surely the powers that be will put a stop to this?

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I don't know where the idea that the Irish are daft comes from.:eek:

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Here's a photograph of a thousand tyres on fire.

Picture of Tyre Fire, Scotswood, Newcastle upon Tyne - Free Pictures - FreeFoto.com


With the wind currently blowing from the west, and this pyre containing much more than a thousand tyres, I suggest we all close our windows tonight.:D

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Ian, don't forget that the "powers that be" are/is Ian Paisley. He's probably going to light it!

Incidentally, nice to see a Union Flag fluttering outside someone's house there!

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Nearly as bad as the reek from the refinary up hear and proberly stinks as bad. :eek: Not ideal and will have enviromentalists throwing a wobbler in the corridors of power.

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Yes but they have the Irish flag on top of the pyre Wynonie (S):D

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Norn Ireland. :D:D

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I think that's because they plan on burning it. ;)

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I hope they're going to plant a few trees afterwards, to make up for all the carbon emission.

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Might need half a forest to offset that much carbon emissions.

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What an awful idea to burn all that. I remember when they used to burn tires in the US way back. It is so very gross in many ways.

Why don't they recycle both the tires and the pallets?

Brian

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Someone in N.I. was charged and fined because he illegally burned tyres.

I wonder why this is allowed to go ahead?


14 June 2007 - Tyrone man fined £400 for burning and dumping tyres illegally | Northern Ireland Executive

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hope they put it live on the internet to view

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Er Willow your not that far from tommy blanks ??

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I've asked politely a couple of times for you to give it a rest. The project has ended, you haven't got one, there's no scope now for getting one, you won, stop banging on about it, it's not funny, the rest of the world has moved on. Please!










PS. The best thing is that you've no idea what the next project will be! :D

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thats gonna stink with all the tyres in it?
if the tyres werent there they could have chucked some spuds in and them squashy things.......oh god ive forgot what you call them:(....lol

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marshmallows?

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thats it:D

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There will be more than that going up tonight.

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:D No I'm not but the wind must have been in the other direction because I didn't know a thing about it until I read it on here.


Sorry Gayle - I did try to whisper it quietly. Personally I wasn't totally against the idea of one, just against the ideas we'd been presented with and the suggested location. I would have loved a really nice something in a more appropriate setting.

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bloody hell

i remember when tblanks the other month was on fire the fumes were a HUGE health hazard

this is going to b off the chart!

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as well as the dangerous stupidity of it, i think it is really offensive to catholics living there. they are supposed to be attempting to build bridges, its such a shame i think.:(

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Its part of Northern Irelands history Willow. I was going to stay out of this the reason is because i love the 12th July parades all the bands especially the pipe bands. In fact the parades normally start in June and the big build up to the 12th and 13th July parades.

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I know it's part of the history Jen but the problem is that in a lot of people's minds it isn't history. When it inflames (pardon the pun) animosity between people then perhaps it's time to reassess. I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well here so please forgive me if I'm not. It just saddens me when history is used as a way of having a go at people now. If it could be kept in perspective that would be fine. I cringe when the Orange paraders insist on marching through 'Catholic areas' though. When I was a little girl the sound of a big bass drum seemed menacing to me.

When I was in Ireland in my late teens early 20s, because I have an English accent, I was occasionally confronted by people who didn't know me who would tell me what 'you people did to us'. At such times I would point out that not only did I personally never do any of it, but my ancestors were also being 'done unto'. Mind you, it should have dawned on them because I knew all the words to the rebel songs and could play the bodhrán. ;)

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I agree with you willow - they shouldnt march through the catholic areas even though my cousins will and do disagree. It is their history though and thats the problem. You are not the only one thats had trouble like that. I went to Belfast on a day out with my cousins daughter and while we were waiting for the bus to go back to my cousins i said lets go in the pub while we are waiting. We had half an hour to waste. Seeing as i was the one who was legally allowed to go in the pub i was the one who went to the bar. When we went in it was packed and people were talking and laughing i went to the bar and asked for 2 halves of lager please. The whole pub went quiet you could hear the tv in the corner. The barman served me and i went over to where my cousins daughter was sitting. I sat down and the first words she said to me was drink up the sooner we get out of here the better. She spoke very quiet so her voice didnt carry. Mine being the true lancashire accent said why and carried. She said this is a catholic pub and we need to get out of here. After she said that it was the quickest half i ever drank. While we were in there the pub was quiet as can be. My cousins daughter went out of the pub first - and as i closed the door the volume went up again people started talking and laughing. I have never been made to feel so unwelcome in a pub before and never since.

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History is history whether people like it or not and traditional commemorations are always held in the highest regards even if they are offensive. It'll take alot more than attempting to build bridges to stop people continuing traditions.

And why shouldn't people celebrate their own religious battles? I know religion is a big thing in ireland and this could obviously be taken in a very offensive way but at the end of the day, religions can offend people without celebrations like this but we dont disregard and hide our own religions to keep others happy do we?

I am roman catholic and I think some religions are unreasonable and negligent to human life, but i dont think my own feelings towards that should stop people from forming their own choices and morals and if they want to celebrate that then its upto them. I cant avoid being offended by things, so i just learn to live with it.

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Has it ever occurred to you that we are no longer in a country that has shared favour of bonfire night and other traditional english celebrations? Bonfire night is just as stupid and dangerous, and no, I try to avoid going out on bonfire night if i can, but my younger sister likes to go.

I don't particularly have any major worries about my religion in the ountry but right now muslims all over are worried that they are going to be stereotyped as terrorists/extremists. Our country isn't as simple and safe as one would like to think unfortunatly, and there is also just as much outspoken views against peoples religions here as there are in ireland, it just isnt as black and white and its not as easily split down the middle.

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But surely Blazey even you can see the difference. Bonfire night isn't anti-muslim. :rolleyes:

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As far as I am concerned the tire pyre wasnt anti catholic either, it was celebrating their own successes of their own religion.

Bonfire night is just as stupid as burning one huge pyre. Bonfire night is condemning a group of people who wanted to rid of the houses of parliament, 'terrorism' one might like to say, but why do we burn effigies of a 'terrorist' one night of the year like its a necessary ritual?

I'm not linking Bonfire night as anti-muslim, hence why they were in seperate paragraphs. But right now we might as well have a war against their religion as so many people in the country now think of the term terrorist as linked with islam. British people are just as shallow minded as these people lighting pyres and chanting against the catholics in ireland and rubbing it in their faces.

We celebrate the fact that we won the war but what about those from those countries that now live on our doorsteps because of our new cultural acceptance. Does anybody actually give a damn about who they offend?

Catholics in ireland may fear walking to a protestant pub, but you cant even say what you really think on a community forum without being flamed for being an outsider/ a student/ too young to understand, how different do you people actually think you are from these tyre burning protestants?

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Yeah, why did the Ku Klux Klan have to stop hanging those darkies from the trees and burning crosses?

After all it's just a historic tradition.

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Which just shows how little you know about what they are celebrating. It's not 'a success of their own religion'. :rolleyes:

I don't think most people who have bonfires and fireworks here on November 5th even consider the historical significance particularly let alone think of it as burning a terrorist.

Good because bonfire night couldn't be considered anti-muslim by even the dimmest of right wing fascists. That's my point. You seem to liken bonfire night here to the bonfires in N. Ireland celebrating the Battle of the Boyne. My point is that the former is a largely forgotten historical event here which most people cannot even relate to whereas the latter is very much alive and well in the minds of many in N. Ireland.

When do we do that? I'm not aware of any war winning anti-German celebratory events taking place annually in this country.

Very different indeed. Here what we actually do is discuss issues and some try to point out things which they feel others may have misunderstood. Most of the flaming which I have noticed lately has come from newer members who dislike the fact that sometimes existing members disagree with them on some points. Being a student doesn't automatically mean someone is ignored. Some students have made some very interesting and well informed posts. How do you define an outsider? How far outside do you want to go? Brian comes from Culpeper Virginia but he has never been flamed or ignored for not living in Accrington. Same goes for our other US members.

The majority of people have enough common sense to make distinctions between disagreeing with a point in a post, an opinion expressed or an inaccurate fact or two and actually attacking the individual. I'll agree that not everyone does that and that from time to time people 'pounce' on a person rather than a post but it's the exception rather than the rule and does not tend to be the behaviour of most of the 'old hands' and regulars.

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sometimes i completely despair,why shouldn't people celebrate a slaughter is what youve just said,so if osama n his cronies start celebrating 9/11 thats fine with you? if you cannot see what yer advocating i feel sorry for you.

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What, we can't do this anymore? Don't tell my rebel neighbors! :p:p

(Yeah, may be a bit of bad taste but wasn't able to give ya Karma Rindy for the pure shock value!). I did appreciate the sentiment and the parallel). It was a very dark and evil time in the American South! As I said in another thread, using God to justify evil against a fellow man is just dreadful!

Brian

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Thing is though blazey if you walked into a pub in northern ireland and it was a 'protestant' pub you'd be fine because of your english voice - people over there used to say to me thank you for going over and being there on holiday (this was when the troubles were at their height) because id gone over there and not bothered about being stopped and searched when i was travelling in a car or going into a shop etc. It was because i'd gone into a catholic pub and it was the english voice - you would have had exactly the same reaction because you had an english voice. Mind you i was told later that by the time i'd come out of the pub that the ira would know who i was, where i lived, where i was stopping, why i was over there etc. Even though i never told anyone my name. I was told that a few times when i went over there. I once went over the border in my cousins car with her son driving. We went thro one border point and had some fun there over the owner of the car - thats another story though. We came back through a different border point in a different county - and we were waved through. Ok this was the army but to be waved through without being stopped when ive gone through the same border point and come back through the same border point and been stopped it was a bit different.