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BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Bid to ban 'racist' Tintin book

these books where written years ago.......why complain now?

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because NOW theres all the PC brigade etc,etc, Panther,long ago there was "gollys"on jamjars, sambo- savos, and enjoyable kids books n stuff, and most folk were happy with it.:rolleyes:

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I can see where they are coming from. However I don't think it should be banned, just viewed from a historical perspective, and understand that it was written when Belgium was an imperial power, and that happily we've moved on.

Most of Shakespeare would be banned too, if we were to be totally politically correct.

Tintin in the Congo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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i can see where there coming from as well bud- the NUT HOUSE.:rolleyes:

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He named his white dog Snowy...more proof of his leanings!:D

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I remember the golly wogs, (rag doll),cant seem to see them in the shops anymore:(
also didnt they ban the pic of one on the jams too? dont know why!

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yep they banned the jam jar labels, had a scotch/west indian mate around that time who fell about laughing at the stupidity of it. forgot to add- his daughter who i saw about 3 yrs ago has kept 2 cuddly toys from her childhood, a teddy bear,n a gollywog.

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its a wonder they havent banned black jacks , the sweet:rolleyes:

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Robertsons who produced the jam thought it politically correct to withdraw
the Golly image from their products...They were not banned.
Golly badges are sold by several dealers and are in great demand.

Robertsons Golly Badges

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I'm sure Garinda is composing the e-mail as we speak.;)

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As stated, I don't think it, or any book, should ever be banned. Prohibition sets a dangerous precedent.

I think it is daft.;)

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what about bar bar black sheep?

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I wonder if the quote from one of the inmates from 'Porridge' would fit with the P.C. Brigade?

Tin Tin may be old fashioned now, but then I dare say attitudes have changed since books such as Biggles where written, after all his friend was 'Ginger'.:)

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we can still buy golly dolls
but we cant ask for a golly wog
aint life simple

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Till Death Us Do Part, thats another isnt it, alf garnett was the ultimate racist, but it wasnt a big deal back then!

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[quote=garinda;447606]I
Most of Shakespeare would be banned too, if we were to be totally politically correct./quote]

That would be ablessig but most of the PC Brigade will turn a blind eye to this having had a classical education. Then there are TV programs like dads army etc will they ban them? They ban things so as not to upset minorities but what about the minorities that have lived all their lives with the stuff being banned.

I say bring back Golly. :D

Had one ase a kid. :D

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have never agreed with "Alfs" phylosophy on things, but the guy used to crack me up, its called having a sense of humour! something somefolk would be better for learning to have.:p

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You need a licence to have a sense of humour nowadays as it is no longer taught. Does it also mean that all the American stuff that refers to "ethnic bashing going to be banned? "

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Unfortunately Willow the P.C. Brigade always prefer Hysterical to Historical, they don't seem to understand that the general public have enough intelligence to work out for themselves that they are the attitudes people used to have, they won't give us the benefit of the doubt that a cartoon character started over 70 years ago won't change us all into raving bigots.

By the way when you were a child and watched Tom and Jerry did it ever persuade you to pick up an axe and slice a cat into pieces? I'm sure your answer is the same as mine, which is no, because you knew it was just an animation, but the P.C. brigade won't allow your children to watch such horrors in case they are influenced!

Dang me but ain't they stupid?

:D

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thats exactly what i meant willow, and as Less put it Hysterical instead of Historical, they are just a set of smallminded people that think folk are too thick to see the differance, Whose too Thick?:D

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Of course the question is just who is it that is actually offended by such things as the golliwog and tin-tin?

This puts me in mind of the debate we had some time ago on the subject of Britain apologising for its part in the American slave trade. Funny, I don't see representatives from North Africa standing up and offering to apologise to Great Britain and Spain for the Slave Raids of the sixteenth century - must be something only us whiteys are expected to do. But then that is the trouble with holier-than-thou attitudes - they don't usually stand up to much scrutiny.

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Remember the name of the dog in the Dam Busters? There is some good stuff on the ludicrous extremes that political correctnes can go to in George Carlin's newest book, "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops."

I always thought that political correctness on any issue (racism, sexism, homophobia), if taken to extremes tends to trivialise the real issues. The problems are real, deal with the problems and the nitpicking about language and images will go away, quietly, on its own. It is much more important, for example, to deal with the issue that women are still making less money than men in the same occpation than it is to campaign for the renaming of manhole covers (personhole!!!!), or to tell kids of the person in the moon, or warn them of the boogeyperson.:eek:

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I have always enjoyed reading Tin, Tin, the author got accused of being unpatriotic during the war because he was forced to work for a pro-Nazi paper during the second world war, but if you read what he actually says, he got away with all sorts, because they were too stupid to see what he was saying.

Yes compared with today it isn't something we can be comfortable with, (we've learned a bit since then). He worked in his period, no matter what, Tin, Tin was always on the side of the good just like the 'Lone Ranger', or 'Superman', let's face it, they are part of an ancient idea which most of us seem to have forgotten.

(For example, opening a door and allowing a Woman through first, try it today and you're called a sexist Bast*rd or some form of pervert, Don't do it and you're an ignorant sod).

P.C. has gone too far, let's have the image that women want us to molley-coddle them, and put them back in skirts so that we can enjoy the difference, otherwise life will continue to be confusing for everybody.

:)

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I think it is time we started a movement to ban the 'Politicaly Correct Brigade', Whoever they mighn't be, yes just who are these cretins?:confused:

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I don't think "cretin" is appropriate: try "intellectually challenged".:rolleyes:

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You can't challenge something that's not there, these 'idiot savants' would make excuses for Adolf Hitler, ask them how they stand on 'President' Mugabe, better known as Mr EBAGUM.:rolleyes:

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I feel that there are some good points made in this thread and by constantly trying to eradicate any reference to black people and the past, we are in danger of erasing the positives along with the negatives. For example, Al Jolson was an actor who appeared in the 'first' synchronised sound film.

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Surely this is about what people find offensive and how it affects them.

As I understand it Herge himself was rewriting his books up to his death changing items he felt were wrong now.

No we shouldn't ban books as that makes us no better than the nazis who burned them. However these should be (as others have said previously) set down as how things were seen in the past.

For historical changes just read Conan-Doyle or Agatha Christie. The views of the upper class at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th were repulsive to say the least.

AS regards my thoughts on Mugabe, he is a murderous brute who should be made to suffer the fate he is putting his own nation through as do all the leaders of ZANU PF.

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Al Jolson was a good Jewish Man, colour and race has nothing to do with the thread, I for one am not racict, but i'm begining to wonder who is, the whites or the blacks?

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Wasn't Al Johnson Jewish?

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Ooops sorry Ian :D

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Jewish and black? He must have experienced some horrendous discrimination! :eek:

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Al_jolson.jpg

No not black

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http://www.bigbandbuddies.co.uk/imag...y%20davies.jpg


Sammy Davis Jnr was Jewish and black (Jewish by conversion).

Al Jolson was a "Black and White Minstrel". His real name was Asa Yoelson.

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Hehehe.... ;)

Did anyone see that episode of Love Thy Neighbour, where Eddie thought Al Jolson was black? :D

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Yes, Nigger.

That's Guy Gibson's dog's name in the film, not you Eric!:D

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Some of my best friends are....


Belgians.:D

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I was going to say.... that's a bit strong. ;)

Unless of course 'you're down with da homies on da streets'.

Respect!

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Actually, if anyone's interested in the 80th Anniversary of the Jazz Singer and in knowing more about the silent-to-sound transition in Hollywood, there's a cracking set coming to DVD in October. You'll need a multi-region player, but I would think most people have those now.

DVD Times - The Jazz Singer 80th Anniversary Edition (R1) in October

Won't interest many I wouldn't think, but it's got me drooling. :)

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I wonder if the same fuss would have ensued if Tin Tins dog had been black instead of white?

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Yes, because it would have been called Blackie then, instead of Snowy.;)

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What if it had been black and white, would they have called it 'The Minstrel Show':D.

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No, it would then be called Michael.




















(As in Jackson.):D

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Ha Ha HA:D White flag is up Gary, can't follow that:D

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I would never have assumed the vocative ... or is it the ablative? I guess you are the kind of guy who plays Trivial Pursuit (invented in Canada by the way) for money:D

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ok ,(a thread wander) I could never get the TinTin thing , I'm an Asterix type , but .....no matter what , to walk into someones home and find books available for perusal is a wonderous thing , the number of times I have been invited into someones home and the only printed thing laying about is the TV guide saddens me , don't people read anymore , I'm amazed at the number of people , especially those with youngsters at home who dont have a bookcase of some sort in the living area, and the scary thing is ......it's the more successful types (the ones with money) who have either the fewest or no books laying around .
ok rant over , I was in bed and my mind was turning his thread/theme over , got up , re-booted my PC and decided to share my thoughts .........
and so .. back to bed :confused: :confused: ;)

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