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cmonstanley 16-07-2007 21:36

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:banslide:with all these idiots walking around with fighting dogs and irresponsible dog owners who thinks it is time we brought back the dog licence .i think we should..make people accountable for their actions with dogs.

Wynonie Harris 16-07-2007 21:38

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I quite agree, and if they do, I'm sure your owner will get you one right away!

cmonstanley 16-07-2007 21:39

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:Banane31::Banane31::Banane31:cheeky oldsnapper:D:p:D:D

accymel 16-07-2007 21:41

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 449970)
I quite agree, and if they do, I'm sure your owner will get you one right away!

:rofl38: nice one wynonie hehehehehehehehehe:Banane21::Banane09:

cmonstanley 16-07-2007 21:45

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 449973)
:rofl38: nice one wynonie hehehehehehehehehe:Banane21::Banane09:

if you dont be serious ill be forced to have another poll:Banane10::):D

Ianto.W. 16-07-2007 21:47

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Yes, seven and a tanner will be a great incentive to stop the dog owners letting their dogs crap all over the town.;)

mallard 16-07-2007 21:51

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well what if some of us what dont have a fighting dog and a dog whats not vicious and should we come in this zone,under fighting dogs.

accymel 16-07-2007 21:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 449975)
if you dont be serious ill be forced to have another poll:Banane10::):D

............. awaits new poll:Banane23::D

Ianto.W. 16-07-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by mallard (Post 449978)
well what if some of us what dont have a fighting dog and a dog whats not vicious and should we come in this zone,under fighting dogs.

Fighting dogs are as I have stated on numerous occasions, just an extention of their owners personality bullys.

lancsdave 16-07-2007 22:00

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 449976)
Yes, seven and a tanner will be a great incentive to stop the dog owners letting their dogs crap all over the town.;)

Sorry for the slight thread wander but why are dog owners fined ( allegedly ) for not pooper scooping yet horses can **** all down the middle of the road and the owners don't have to do anything ?

katex 16-07-2007 22:03

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Can't see what difference is would make cmonstan, was surely going on before .. think dog owners have become more resposible anyway what with the new dog 'excrement' laws, dogs on lead, etc. Sure it was going on before anyway.

Can't really remember why it was abolished in the first place; was it just economics .. cost of issuing ?

shakermaker 16-07-2007 22:06

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 449983)
Sorry for the slight thread wander but why are dog owners fined ( allegedly ) for not pooper scooping yet horses can **** all down the middle of the road and the owners don't have to do anything ?

Because most of these horses are police ones :rolleyes::mad:

Should see the site after some Stanley games where the Police make the club to have their 'assistance' present, charge us for it, & then let their horses drop loads all over the gaff!

Ianto.W. 16-07-2007 22:06

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 449983)
Sorry for the slight thread wander but why are dog owners fined ( allegedly ) for not pooper scooping yet horses can **** all down the middle of the road and the owners don't have to do anything ?

Fair question and they don't need a licence either, it may be something to do with the class system. Considering horse manure is full of Tetanus in it's raw state, it is more of a health hazard.

katex 16-07-2007 22:08

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 449983)
Sorry for the slight thread wander but why are dog owners fined ( allegedly ) for not pooper scooping yet horses can **** all down the middle of the road and the owners don't have to do anything ?


Well, who would want to argue with an animal that size :eek:

***Mr D*** 17-07-2007 09:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 449968)
:banslide:with all these idiots walking around with fighting dogs and irresponsible dog owners who thinks it is time we brought back the dog licence .i think we should..make people accountable for their actions with dogs.

With all these idiots walking around dropping litter, Urinating, damaging everything on a friday sat Night should we make people accountable for their actions when the cannot handle the ale.

jambutty 17-07-2007 14:14

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Not another sneaky tax!!!

Yes katex, the Dog License was abolished because it cost more to collect than was collected and it was all but impossible to police.

If the government in its infernal wisdom does go down the “Dog Tax” road to make it cost effective I guess it would need to be at least $50 and that would upset the golden oldies.

As much as I agree that horse owners should clear up after their horses dumping in the road there is far more dog muck around than horse muck. Then there is the rhubarb and roses to consider. Maybe horses should wear nappies like they do in Blackpool.

In fact if you think about it bird crap is far more widespread than any other crap (apart from the crap that comes out of Whitehall and Westminster). I mean there’s millions of the feathered friends. Bird droppings will eat through the paintwork on your car if left on long enough.

MargaretR 17-07-2007 15:19

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The best solution is dog nappies
Cyberbooth #111 - Dog Diaper

West Ender 17-07-2007 18:06

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Who would enforce dog licences and how would they do it? You rarely see a policeman on foot these days but, if you did, would he have time/be bothered to ask to see your licence if you were out with your dog? Would you be required to produce it at a police station within 7 days?

Dog wardens could do it, at a pinch, but when did you last see one of them? I've seen dogs out wandering the streets in some areas, often packs of them, but I've never seen anyone round them up.

It would be the same story as in the days when we did have dog licences. The good, responsible owners would buy them and renew them. The irresponsible ones just wouldn't bother.

garinda 17-07-2007 18:07

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It should be the people who are licenced.:D

grego 17-07-2007 18:15

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I hadn't realised that you didn't need a licence anymore, I dont think you can compare dog muck with horse manure, horse manure doesn't smell even half as bad, its not meaty, it rots better and is good for the garden.

Ianto, where did you get the info re tetanus and horse manure? Didn't realise that, I've been picking it up with my bare hands for years its never done me any harm, anyway must dash and oil my jaw:)

panther 18-07-2007 09:57

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licence for dogs??, free or would it cost something??
if its gonna cost, then no why should the goverment gain again!:(

BUT if its free then yes they should!;)

MargaretR 18-07-2007 10:25

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Dog licences should be as hard to get as gun licences.

panther 18-07-2007 10:27

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450706)
Dog licences should be as hard to get as gun licences.

agree with you there margaret;)

***Mr D*** 18-07-2007 10:28

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450706)
Dog licences should be as hard to get as gun licences.

And why is that.:confused:

MargaretR 18-07-2007 10:35

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 450711)
And why is that.:confused:

So that only persons who are considered capable of responsible ownership will be allowed to have one, and in addition the number of licences allowed in any built up area will be 'rationed'.
PS it is only a matter of time before this country will have rabies in the dog population.

***Mr D*** 18-07-2007 10:39

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450721)
So that only persons who are considered capable of responsible ownership will be allowed to have one, and in addition the number of licences allowed in any built up area will be 'rationed'.

How would people be vetted for this? Age, Class, Ethnic Background?

What would we do with all the extra dogs?

MargaretR 18-07-2007 10:53

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 450725)
How would people be vetted for this? Age, Class, Ethnic Background?

What would we do with all the extra dogs?

1. No age, class or ethnicity - just capacity to sensibly care for and control -- licence can be withdrawn if this condition is breached--eg if the dog is allowed to roam unaccompanied, owner does not collect 'fouling', creation of noise nuisance in the neighbourhood etc.

2. The sceme would need to be phased in so that as dogs die the numbers in any allowed in any built up area are gradually reduced.

Now that we have the Channel Tunnel it provides a route for rabies which is endemic in the feral dogs on the continent. When rabies comes it will involve mass culling of domestic pets.

***Mr D*** 18-07-2007 11:12

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450739)
1. No age, class or ethnicity - just capacity to sensibly care for and control -- licence can be withdrawn if this condition is breached--eg if the dog is allowed to roam unaccompanied, owner does not collect 'fouling', creation of noise nuisance in the neighbourhood etc.

2. The sceme would need to be phased in so that as dogs die the numbers in any allowed in any built up area are gradually reduced.

Now that we have the Channel Tunnel it provides a route for rabies which is endemic in the feral dogs on the continent. When rabies comes it will involve mass culling of domestic pets.

Couldnt see it working myself.

Let say I have a Dog Licence, can I let someone else walk it??

I think Compulsary Insurance would be a better Idea.

Mick 18-07-2007 11:15

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If i have a Golden retriever will i need a colour licence or a black and white one ?:D:D

MargaretR 18-07-2007 11:23

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At present the dog warden spends most of his time rounding up strays. There are too many dogs owned in towns and cities.
If rationing and microchipping of dogs was introduced the warden's job would be control of the register of dogs and the issue and withdrawl of licences. As the dog population will be reduced gradually the costs of such a scheme could eventually be no more than the present costs of a dog warden.

Eric 18-07-2007 11:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 450392)
It should be the people who are licenced.:D

And in some cases, put down:eek:

jambutty 18-07-2007 12:08

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450721)
So that only persons who are considered capable of responsible ownership will be allowed to have one, and in addition the number of licences allowed in any built up area will be 'rationed'.
PS it is only a matter of time before this country will have rabies in the dog population.

The scaremongers said that when the Chunnel opened.

We are still waiting for the first case.

jambutty 18-07-2007 12:17

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Rather than wasting time, money and energy on dog licenses the powers that be should be concentrating on greyhounds and what happens to them when they have finished racing.

The greater majority get put down once their racing life is over at about five years old. Greyhounds live for about 15 years or so.

I accept that some will become domestic pets and I understand that they make very good pets but you never hear about the thousands that don’t get that chance. That side of the industry is kept a secret.

Ianto.W. 18-07-2007 12:42

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 450767)
Rather than wasting time, money and energy on dog licenses the powers that be should be concentrating on greyhounds and what happens to them when they have finished racing.

The greater majority get put down once their racing life is over at about five years old. Greyhounds live for about 15 years or so.

I accept that some will become domestic pets and I understand that they make very good pets but you never hear about the thousands that don’t get that chance. That side of the industry is kept a secret.

Quite true jambutty, a lot of them are put down about 2 years old because the are 'to slow', and also through injury that is likely to affect their speed. It is a disgrace and to my shame as a young man I was involved in greyhound racing as a trainer.:o

cmonstanley 18-07-2007 20:22

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if there was a dog licence it should be run by the rspca and all profits going to the rspca.ive never been to certain areas where theres so many neglected dogs ,fighting dogs ,and just damn dangerous dogs roaming about its only a matter of time when theres a kid mauled .hopefully the latest crackdowns have decreased these dogs..i think all the dog charitys should be involved in the registration of dog licences so the authorities could weed all the illegal breeders of dangerous dogs.......


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