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Unmarried couples who split up should have the right to claim financial support from their former partners, under recommendations released today..thats the news today, what do you think?, i think yes especially if they have lived together for years!!
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didnt this used to be the case though? and they stopped it? common law husband/wife etc? but i think that was just for the house and belongings wasnt it
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i think it underminds the value of mariage
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Personally I feel that individuals should stand on their own 2 feet.
In my last long-term relationship, he moved in with me - I owned the house, already had all furniture & appliances etc., & earned more money than him, so under these new recommendations when I kicked him out he could claim financial support from me? Over my dead body! |
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no agree with davo,nowt against co-habiting,thats up to them,but if you aint in the club,you shouldn't expect full membership benifits.:rolleyes:
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It's a bit of a farce in this country that marriage is seen as the best thing a family can have, with the state giving married couples benefits over non-married couples.
It doesn't make any sense at all apart from living up to dated traditions. Couples should be able to have legal standing even if they do not wish to get married. |
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If cohabiting couples were to have the same rights as married couples it would need all kinds of legislation to enable it to work, such as how long they were together, whether or not they shared one or two homes etc. At the moment people have a choice if they want the rights which each type of relationship offers, and I think that is good.
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I wasn't aware that the state has any benefits specific to married people. The married tax allowance was the only one I knew of and thats long gone. :confused: |
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For me, people should choose whether to marry or not because of their views on the concept of marriage - not how much legal power they will have if the relationship ends - and so both options should have equal rights. Garinda is right in saying that big legislative changes would have to be made but I think it would be beneficial to a more secular society, with an increasing amount of people wishing to have legally recognised relationships without the religious tags of marriage. |
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i never thought marriage was about legal rights
benefits or money thought it was about commitment loyalty and trust this can be achieved without contracts of any kind |
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turn it around n 2 single pensions equate to more than a married couples pension, so ya win that way, stop bitching n accept whats right.:p
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Depnds if one of the couple has done sod all for years and the other half has been supporting 'em.
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ive been co habiting for the last 13 years, we have bought a house together, had 2 lovely children, allways worked,what would marriage change for us,people nowadays are only interested in the financial aspects of life instead of just getting on with it come what may
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Marriage is a fine old institution but not one I will be entering again ! |
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well im not married, and have been with my partner for for 12 years, we have 2 kids, and doing fine thankyou, i know people who have married and its all ended in divorce, so i think whats the point, its only a peice of paper, and very hard to get out off if the relationship breaks down!.
it should only apply to people with kids, thats all, just to carry on supporting them,, its the kids who need it!,, at the moment if my partner suddenly dies, i would not get widows pension, or anything else,...i think it should change for all, we should still get it if married or not, but only if you have been co-habiting for years and have children:) |
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I have been with Daddiboo for over 11 years now we both work and we have done everything together we have 2 children and 1 more on the way we have bought a house together and cars and all the furniture in the house and everything else that life brings on the way the only thing we havent done is get married I agree with what else has been said throughout the thread that Marriage means different things to different people. I dont see why people who are not married but have lived the same way as married people for longer than some people are actually married for should not be treated the same way with the same benifits as married folks.
And then theres the small matter of Divorce which seems to happen all to offen these days messy costly divorce who needs that eh! |
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Divorces vary like marriages vary.
My 1st divorce after 10 years of marriage was amicable and cost £15 because no solicitors were involved. The maintenance of 1 child was agreed and legalised in the courts (without solicitors) My second divorce after 8 years was a horrendous battle which cost me a hell of a lot emotionally and financially. My 3rd was a cohabitation relationship which lasted 17 years. I recommend cohabitation for childless couples. There are safeguards which you can put in place, such as joint ownership of property, and making a will in each others favour. I would not like the existing laws on that changed. If you have children in the relationship it is better to safeguard them by marriage. You will be able to continue to live in the matrimonial home until the youngest is 16 - essential to provide them with some small element of security during the (maybe) turbulent divorce. PS experience has taught me that nothing is forever - or, you are very lucky if it is |
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Why should anyone who doesn't enter into a legal contract have any legal rights to another's property?
What's so terrible about marriage? I've heard so many people say they can't afford a wedding - blah-blah-blah - or do it when their children are school age etc., as if marriage was purely about "The Big Day". It isn't. It's the ultimate commitment and, even if you're not the romantic type, it's saying to the world at large and the Law of the Land, "I'll stay with this person". It can be a big, expensive fuss or 15 minutes at the Registry Office - they're both as binding. Sure, it can go wrong but so can cohabitation and maybe that makes walking out just a little bit easier - and a little harder on the one who's dumped. Cohabit if that's what you want but don't expect a free ride if you won't buy a ticket. |
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Surely people can commit to each other without being married? Just because you decide not to marry doesn't mean you expect to break up. |
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From one who has been stung by this co-habitting situation it's a definate NO! from me.My ex-partner contributed nothing towards our home and now has the audacity to expect half of something she paid nothing towards!! She was the one who was unfaithfull,she was the one who left.I'm currently in the legal wrangling stage and it is a minefield!! I think the laws concerning Co-habitting should be clarified (regarding financial rites in the event of the relationship breaking down) especially where Children are involved,with financial circumstances been taken into account(i.e. WHO contributed What??) Fortunately there where no children as a result of my relationship with my ex. ,as sadly it's the kids who suffer when any marraige or relationship breaks down.
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Why should people be bound together by words just because you as a couple feel it right for you doesnt make it right for everyone!!
Im not married but as i said before we have been together since we were teens and 3 kids and a house and numerous cars and so on we are still toghether and going strong maybe we should go and make those vows just for the stuff we would get if we were i would get a new ring, a new dress and shoes and a certificate oh and a share of his pension. Nah i still cant see those as being good enough reasons to go and marry and everything else we already have! There are lots of different situations in which people live with houses, without houses with kids and without. Its funny how mostly people who think it should be allowed are the non marrieds and those who dont think it should be allowed are the married ones it would be interesting to see the ages of the people with their thoughts is it mainly younger people who agree? (by the way its not an assumption just curious). |
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Unless people are religious and want to make a commitment in the eyes of God, then why get married for the sake of a bit of paper.
If people want to get married then fine but i don't think people should be pressured into doing so. I'm sure the ridiculous amounts a wedding costs can be put to much better use. A couple in a long term relationship should have all a married couple gets. |
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I have no problem with couples whether they are living together or married.........but how many times have you heard either one or the other say that they "don't want the commitment?"
They get a mortgage together, they have children together, the two biggest commitments anyone is likely to take in their lifetime but one adult (tends to be the male) will not show their commitment to the other through marriage and leaves the other partner on an insecure footing. In my opinion, if a couple choose to live together and raise a family outside of marriage, the financial rules that govern married couples should also apply to them. Why should one partner have an easy option of opting out of a relationship? The other partner will be just as distraught married or not. |
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A lady should keep a hand on her tuppence, until the man puts a ring on her finger.
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Anne, why should a wedding cost a ridiculous amount? My son married 8 years ago, in a Registry Office, a short but pleasant ceremony with just a few guests. They had been living together for 13 years but decided to make it "permanent". He wore his nice suit, my daughter-in-law bought a dress she's worn loads of times since, and we had a meal at a local hotel - we all paid for our own. The wedding cost very little but they are as much married as anyone else. There's no more commitment in wearing a white dress and a veil and having a huge party, that's just a display.
I said before, it's the choice of the individuals whether to marry or not but it's a question of legality. When you consider that same-sex couples have fought for, and got, the right to have a legal contract drawn up to give them "married" rights why should those who won't legally commit themselves have those rights by default? Call it marriage or what ever you like, no contract - no rights. |
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My advice to anyone in that situation is promise them the earth and deliver nothing, if ever keep your head in the sand made any sense in a marriage/partnership split situation it does. Stall them put sick notes in, get shut of what you can and don't turn up at court. Play the same game as the solicitor, he will soon chuck his hand in when the cash stops comming. Anyone requiring advice off an expert, free of charge, I have afternoon sessions in the Brook's Club every afternoon, 3.30-7.00.;) |
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Cheers for that Ianto.W. ! Karma duly sent :)
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if theres kids involved then thats fair but should the women be leeching off her partner for longer than needed
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