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cmonstanley 10-08-2007 22:17

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if you were leader of a political party what would be in your manifesto?
im writing my manifesto out so ill add it later;)

Wynonie Harris 10-08-2007 22:35

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 458786)
im writing my manifesto out so ill add it later;)

I'm sure the word is going out in the news rooms of the leading national papers right now to hold the presses as the whole British political establishment waits with baited breath.

garinda 10-08-2007 22:40

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Anarchy in the UK.:)

lancsdave 10-08-2007 22:42

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I'm waiting to see how many bananas you can get in a manifesto :)

garinda 10-08-2007 22:51

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-Legalise prostitution.

-Flat rate of income tax @25% for all.

-Leave the E.E.C.

-Abolish the Royal Family, though her Majesty the Queen would be eligible to stand in the elections to vote for a head of State.

-Make the benefit system unattractive as a career choice.

-Scrap tuition fees and loans for students, and reintroduce the grant system.

-Tax cars more and put the money into improving the public transport system.

-Tighten immigration rules, especially for illegal immigrants.

-Scrap the television licence fee.

-Outlaw sportswear and training shoes, for those not actually playing sport.

andrewb 10-08-2007 22:55

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Originally Posted by TheTimes
Gordon Brown, Prime Minister, a biography by Tom Bower, is a popular choice for Tories, while The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and Alastair Campbell’s The Blair Years are proving to be must-reads for Labour MPs. Lib Dem politicians have preferred to opt for J. K. Rowling’s latest, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

I think i'll take a leaf out of the Lib Dems books, magic tax wands for all!

Mancie 10-08-2007 23:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 458799)
-Legalise prostitution.

-Flat rate of income tax @25% for all.

-Leave the E.E.C.

-Abolish the Royal Family, though her Majesty the Queen would be eligible to stand in the elections to vote for a head of State.

-Make the benefit system unattractive as a career choice.

-Scrap tuition fees and loans for students, and reintroduce the grant system.

-Tax cars more and put the money into improving the public transport system.

-Tighten immigration rules, especially for illegal immigrants.

-Scrap the television licence fee.

-Outlaw sportswear and training shoes, for those not actually playing sport.

Umm... not sure about this manifesto.. "make the benefit system an unattractive career choice" and "scrap tuition fees for students" could be tied in together.... why should a 16yr old slog his/her guts out at McDonalds to have their taxes pay for some lazy Herbert gaining a degree, hike around the world in their "gap year" then walk into a £30k a year job?

andrewb 10-08-2007 23:37

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because when the the 16 year old in Mcdonalds gets older and has a heart attack and gets his life saved by a Doctor he will be happy he paid taxes to put the doctor through University.

Mancie 10-08-2007 23:41

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 458812)
because when the the 16 year old in Mcdonalds gets older and has a heart attack and gets his life saved by a Doctor he will be happy he paid taxes to put the doctor through University.

But he will have already paid for the Doctor through national insurance!.. must have slipped your memory eh Cyfr (typical Tory)

cashman 10-08-2007 23:49

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the working day would be 12-00 till 13-00,with an hour for dinner, would be my first on the list.:p

Mancie 10-08-2007 23:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 458818)
the working day would be 12-00 till 13-00,with an hour for dinner, would be my first on the list.:p

Yeah just like most of the House Of Lords :D

katex 10-08-2007 23:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 458803)
why should a 16yr old slog his/her guts out at McDonalds to have their taxes pay for some lazy Herbert gaining a degree, hike around the world in their "gap year" then walk into a £30k a year job?

What a stupid remark Mancie .. most students have jobs whilst taking their degrees. My son worked at McDonalds whilst doing his A-levels, Blockbuster whilst taking his degree, had a year out whilst searching for job but made manager at a Blockbusters, then part time working for the company he has now a full time career with, whilst taking his Masters.

Not yet earning £ 30k, but not doing bad .. reckon he deserves it. Still has a debt of £13,000 to pay back.

Mancie 10-08-2007 23:53

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 458820)
What a stupid remark Mancie .. most students have jobs whilst taking their degrees. My son worked at McDonalds whilst doing his A-levels, Blockbuster whilst taking his degree, had a year out whilst searching for job but made manager at a Blockbusters, then part time working for the company he has now a full time career with, whilst taking his Masters.

Not yet earning £ 30k, but not doing bad .. reckon he deserves it. Still has a debt of £13,000 to pay back.

Ok Katex .. but do you expect me to pay his debts??
I'm saying everyone of us pays for education up to a certain age..no problem.. but why should everyone pay for someone already well educated who may decide to gain better qualifications when other kids simply have to leave school and earn a living.

cashman 10-08-2007 23:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 458819)
Yeah just like most of the House Of Lords :D

who told you were i reside?:D

katex 11-08-2007 00:08

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 458821)
Ok Katex .. but do you expect me to pay his debts??
I'm saying everyone of us pays for education up to a certain age..no problem.. but why should everyone pay for someone already well educated who may decide to gain better qualifications when other kids simply have to leave school and earn a living.

No, do not expect you to pay his debts at all Mancie. Not saying either that I agree with grants or not .. just objected that you indicated that students were all lazy Herberts that's all, when they clearly are not. Most are willing to work whilst studying to gain qualifications... somebody has to do it as well as the kids that have no incline to go further and finish up working in McDonalds from school, and nowt wrong with that either .. I was very impressed with them as an employer.

slinky 11-08-2007 00:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 458818)
the working day would be 12-00 till 13-00,with an hour for dinner, would be my first on the list.:p

I vote you in cashy x :D:D:D :Banane20:

cmonstanley 11-08-2007 11:05

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1.make it illegal for landlords to own more than 4 houses at a time plus the estate agents who consantly bring areas down by renting out to drug paodophile scum .
2.all houses empty for more than 4 years to be compulsory purchased whatever area they are in.
3.all probation halfway houses to be built or be in empty industrial units[keep the scum away from our children]after all they are our future.
4.build more youth clubs or use alternative accomodation for youth clubs [whatever area they are in .there is a shortage of youth clubs in certain areas i.e oaklea milnshaw.[possibly use urc stanley etc]
5.treat all wards in the borough council equally[certain areas are probably paying less council tax per population and getting more spending on it. why should the average working person be penalised for working and following rules.its not a crime to work.this is only part one;)

Liam 11-08-2007 11:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 458799)
-Legalise prostitution.

-Flat rate of income tax @25% for all.

-Leave the E.E.C.

-Abolish the Royal Family, though her Majesty the Queen would be eligible to stand in the elections to vote for a head of State.

-Make the benefit system unattractive as a career choice.

-Scrap tuition fees and loans for students, and reintroduce the grant system.

-Tax cars more and put the money into improving the public transport system.

-Tighten immigration rules, especially for illegal immigrants.

-Scrap the television licence fee.

-Outlaw sportswear and training shoes, for those not actually playing sport.

what a legend lol. you'd get my vote garinda

cmonstanley 11-08-2007 11:22

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6. ban all international call centres from phoning anybody in britain .if companies want to sell in britain they might as well employ somebody in britain that has a half an idea that no means no.:rolleyes:

andrewb 11-08-2007 11:23

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 458813)
But he will have already paid for the Doctor through national insurance!.. must have slipped your memory eh Cyfr (typical Tory)

Errm yes but not his degree, which is what we're talking about. Not wages and such, right?

Don't just add "typical Tory" on to things, if I was a typical Tory i'd be shouting "Why should people who work in Mcdonalds fund peoples degrees?" from the rooftops, where as im arguing the complete opposite.

So maybe you are the "typical Tory" eh Mancie?

Liam 11-08-2007 11:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 458939)
6. ban all international call centres from phoning anybody in britain .if companies want to sell in britain they might as well employ somebody in britain that has a half an idea that no means no.:rolleyes:

thats a good one aswell. i keep getting people ringing our house who cant even speak english trying to sell me things down the fone.:confused:

cmonstanley 11-08-2007 11:26

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7. bring the advertising laws up to date some companies just tell blatant lies in their advertisements.

cmonstanley 11-08-2007 11:49

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raise the legal age for driving cars and motorbikes to 21 plus make it part of the education system to teach road safety.i.e let them behind a wheel with instructors on private land like an introduction..plus let them know the green issues and the positives by travelling by public transport.

lancsdave 11-08-2007 11:57

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 458952)
plus let them know the green issues and the positives by travelling by public transport.


I think most people know that already, excpet those responsible for running a good public transport system of course.

shakermaker 11-08-2007 12:57

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Wouldn't be able to think up a manifesto for everything, but one point that I think would help [adding on from cmonstanley's & lancsdave's points] would be bringing back nationalisation of British rail and bus companies. Like lancsdave said, if the majority of public transport was worth the effort then a lot more people would use it. Right now it stinks. Quite literally a lot of the time!

SPUGGIE J 11-08-2007 14:34

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 458962)
Wouldn't be able to think up a manifesto for everything, but one point that I think would help [adding on from cmonstanley's & lancsdave's points] would be bringing back nationalisation of British rail and bus companies. Like lancsdave said, if the majority of public transport was worth the effort then a lot more people would use it. Right now it stinks. Quite literally a lot of the time!

I prefer them as they are at the moment but then up here there is only the odd problem and they are pretty frequent. Buses every 10-15 mins to Falkirk trains to Glasgow-Edinburgh-Stirling every 15-30 mins depending on which station I use. Yes there could be improvements but sometimes private ownership can bring out the best as well as the worst in them. As it stands the traffic is that bad and heavy on roads that it dosnt matter if its bus or car you use. Even getting to the train station is governed by the amount of traffic so it might be considered a poisoned chalice to take it on.

garinda 11-08-2007 15:31

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 458799)
-Legalise prostitution.

-Flat rate of income tax @25% for all.

-Leave the E.E.C.

-Abolish the Royal Family, though her Majesty the Queen would be eligible to stand in the elections to vote for a head of State.

-Make the benefit system unattractive as a career choice.

-Scrap tuition fees and loans for students, and reintroduce the grant system.

-Tax cars more and put the money into improving the public transport system.

-Tighten immigration rules, especially for illegal immigrants.

-Scrap the television licence fee.

-Outlaw sportswear and training shoes, for those not actually playing sport.

Plus...

-Withdrawl of British troops from Iraq as soon as is humanly possible.

-Deunification of the United Kingdom. If Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland want their own parliaments let them go it alone. This would prevent the ludicrous situation we have at the moment were Scottish M.P.'s are voting on issues in Westminster that only affects English and Welsh law.

Also we now have the situation were Scottish senior citizens don't have to sell their homes to pay for residential care if they need it, unlike their English counterparts. Also Scottish students don't have to pay for university tuition fees, unlike the English.

-End the drugs postcode lottery. If a patient needs a particular drug treatment, let them have them. This should not come down to where you live, and if the relevant local health authority can afford it or not.

jackyalex 11-08-2007 15:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 459038)
Plus...

-Withdrawl of British troops from Iraq as soon as is humanly possible.

-Deunification of the United Kingdom. If Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland want their own parliaments let them go it alone. This would prevent the ludicrous situation we have at the moment were Scottish M.P.'s are voting on issues in Westminster that only affects English and Welsh law.

Also we now have the situation were Scottish senior citizens don't have to sell their homes to pay for residential care if they need it, unlike their English counterparts. Also Scottish students don't have to pay for university tuition fees, unlike the English.

-End the drugs postcode lottery. If a patient needs a particular drug treatment, let them have them. This should not come down to where you live, and if the relevant local health authority can afford it or not.

all of the above i would vote for except,the taxing of cars,why should i have to pay more tax to go towards public transport,thats why i have a car because its safer and more reliable than public transport,i aint gonna pay for someone else to use public transport,oh and i like the monarchy too

shakermaker 11-08-2007 15:51

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Free heart care after every match for Accrington Stanley fans

SPUGGIE J 11-08-2007 15:54

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 459062)
Free heart care after every match for Accrington Stanley fans

That owt to do with the 1-0 win at Wycombe by any chance???? :p

shakermaker 11-08-2007 15:56

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 459070)
That owt to do with the 1-0 win at Wycombe by any chance???? :p

Yep! Stanley season back in full swing, 3 heart attacks a week :D

SPUGGIE J 11-08-2007 16:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 459038)
Plus...

-Withdrawl of British troops from Iraq as soon as is humanly possible.

Agree

-Deunification of the United Kingdom. If Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland want their own parliaments let them go it alone.

Not economically viable for them to do so despite all the protestations up here.

This would prevent the ludicrous situation we have at the moment were Scottish M.P.'s are voting on issues in Westminster that only affects English and Welsh law.

Ironic is it not based on past historic voting and laws concerning what was deemed good for the Scots i.e. Poll Tax.

Also we now have the situation were Scottish senior citizens don't have to sell their homes to pay for residential care if they need it, unlike their English counterparts.

Yes and the size of the population might be a reason.

Also Scottish students don't have to pay for university tuition fees, unlike the English.

A large number come north to benefit this.

-End the drugs postcode lottery. If a patient needs a particular drug treatment, let them have them. This should not come down to where you live, and if the relevant local health authority can afford it or not.

Fair enough

garinda 11-08-2007 16:30

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 459086)
Fair enough

English students going to Scottish universities do have to pay tuition fees.

Scottish students coming down to study in England don't.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Student fees solution unveiled

SPUGGIE J 11-08-2007 16:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 459099)
English students going to Scottish universities do have to pay tuition fees.

Scottish students coming down to study in England don't.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Student fees solution unveiled

I stand corrected I thought it was the other way round. :o:o:o:o:o:o

garinda 11-08-2007 16:40

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 459109)
I stand corrected I thought it was the other way round. :o:o:o:o:o:o

S'ok. We've had all your oil 'n' gas, now ****** off.:D

SPUGGIE J 11-08-2007 16:46

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 459110)
S'ok. We've had all your oil 'n' gas, now ****** off.:D

Lol mind you when its gone and its import galore then what will you do?? We have enough wind up here for wind farms and might use it. Nuke is not an option at the mo. :D

Wait till the next hosepipe ban and water shortage we will have plenty and might sell at a premium price. :D

cmonstanley 12-08-2007 11:02

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 458962)
Wouldn't be able to think up a manifesto for everything, but one point that I think would help [adding on from cmonstanley's & lancsdave's points] would be bringing back nationalisation of British rail and bus companies. Like lancsdave said, if the majority of public transport was worth the effort then a lot more people would use it. Right now it stinks. Quite literally a lot of the time!

good one but i think its too late for that. i think there should be a integrated network co-ordinator who makes decisions for a timetable of integrated public transport network .any companies who dont meet the network co-ordinator criteria has their contract terminated and has a hefty fine and the money invested back into the network. plus a clause in the contract about the standards of the transport .i still cant believe how bad preston train station and the trains are in the northwest its like travelling in a third world country.the scarborough train is alright but the northern trains are just short of scandalous.

Wynonie Harris 12-08-2007 21:26

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 459301)
i think there should be a integrated network co-ordinator who makes decisions for a timetable of integrated public transport network .any companies who dont meet the network co-ordinator criteria has their contract terminated and has a hefty fine and the money invested back into the network. plus a clause in the contract about the standards of the transport

Have you got a grown-up to write that for you? It's the most sensible post I've ever seen you make! :D

cmonstanley 12-08-2007 21:42

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it took me 3 weeks to compose that little bit of literacy .if you read between the lines it wont make any sense at all because its too logical:p:p:p:p:p

:Banane33::Banane33::Banane33::Banane33:stanley for the play off's with king kenny:banslide::banslide::banslide::banslide::bans lide::banslide:

cmonstanley 13-08-2007 17:13

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9.make fireworks illegal unless at an organised event
10 make people who want to organise an event to have a licence and to have to get it from your local police so they can check you out for a criminal record..

cmonstanley 18-11-2009 19:16

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11.bring the troops out of afghanistan and concentrate on law and order in our own country...

Wynonie Harris 18-11-2009 20:34

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 763698)
11.bring the troops out of afghanistan and concentrate on law and order in our own country...

It took you 15 months to think of that? ;)

cmonstanley 18-11-2009 21:32

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yep lol:D:D:D

Wynonie Harris 18-11-2009 21:37

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 763731)
yep lol:D:D:D

I'll look forward to the next plank of your manifesto platform around March, 2011, then. :D


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