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Busman747 27-08-2007 22:01

Celebrate a Wedding....Kill a Dog!
 
I am spitting mad...............

I assume that there has been a Muslim wedding today, Good on them, hope they have a happy life together...............

BUT!!!! Why should we have to put up with sporadic fireworks going off since one o' clock this afternoon??:mad:mad:

I used to have a German Shepherd that HATED loud bangs but now have just two cats that have been frantic and scared stiff for most of the afternoon. My neighbour has a dog that has been barking almost non-stop for the past 8 hours, poor thing is probably frightened to death, Probably most, if not all animals in the area have been going through the same thing, totally wrong, totally out of order!!

Everyone knows to keep their pets inside on Nov 5th for a duration of around 5 hours..........but how do you adapt to a foreign religious group that do not respect a country of "pet lovers" and can cruelly frighten the life out of dogs and cats any time of the day or night just because they are having their celebrations? This is wrong ...........and needs to be addressed by the government or by the Local Councils!!

WAKE UP!!! Those in power, Stop this NOW!! Let the happy couples celebrate their union, BUT NOT by scaring our pets to death!!!!!!!!

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that the mere touch of a dog means that a Muslim must quickly take a wash as he or she is unclean, If this is true, it shows that the Muslim religion is totally unsuitable for the life in England. I can't imagine the likes of Mani worrying too much about a Highland Terrier trying to make love to his shins while he is being bouncer for a local nightclub........but for the devouted, and non-westernised, It would be a terrifying experience, Muslims generally can't stand Dogs or too a lesser extent, Cats!

HELLO......... This is a pet loving country.....:mad:


Lilly 27-08-2007 22:10

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I know what you mean Busman. Some pets do suffer terribly when fireworks are being set off. My mum's neighbour has to get tranquilisers from the vet for her dog in the run up to Nov 5th. It's an absolute pain every year. At least we expect it in November though and we can prepare. I never knew until now that Muslims have been having fireworks at their weddings, obviously we have no way of knowing when these weddings will be happening so our pets have to suffer. :( There's no consideration is there?
I think that fireworks should only be allowed on 5th November, or maybe during that week but no more than that.

katex 27-08-2007 22:13

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Eeew hek Busman, you are angry, aren't you. Gotta' point though . is a little startling. Used to work in Man. just around the corner of China Town and they set off these fire crackers as a celebration; as it was in the midst of the IRA bombings era, of which I was close to two of them, wasn't very good for my heart rhythms .. so understand perfectly why the dogs were bewildered and scared :(

Busman747 27-08-2007 22:16

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 464642)
I think that fireworks should only be allowed on 5th November, or maybe during that week but no more than that.

Thank you lily, this is exactly what I mean, we can prepare for Nov 5th, but cannot anticipate an Islamic wedding with fireworks during the rest of the year....:mad:

cashman 27-08-2007 22:17

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Busman that has been a sore point with me for years, once mentioned it to a councillor, complete waste of time,didnt want to know, suggest you try it, would be interested in the re-action you get?;)

Mick 27-08-2007 22:18

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This might help Busman
Firework law


Under section 1 of the Protection of Animals Act 1911 it is an offence to cause any unnecessary suffering to any domestic or captive animals. The penalty on conviction is a fine of up to £5,000 or up to six months imprisonment, or both. Enforcement of this section of the Act rests with Trading Standards, the Police or the RSPCA as appropriate.

katex 27-08-2007 22:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 464649)
Busman that has been a sore point with me for years, once mentioned it to a councillor, complete waste of time,didnt want to know, suggest you try it, would be interested in the re-action you get?;)

Was it that Siddique guy ? :D:D

Busman747 27-08-2007 22:20

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464645)
Eeew hek Busman, you are angry, aren't you. (

Yes katex, going out to the back yard, I was taken aback by the loud bangs that eminated from our neighbourhood!!

cashman 27-08-2007 22:21

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 464650)
This might help Busman
Firework law

ta mick just had a quick glance, the question i have now is WHY is this law being completely ignored by the authorities?

cashman 27-08-2007 22:22

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464652)
Was it that Siddique guy ? :D:D

no the councillor was a lancastrian i'm sorry to say.:(

cmonstanley 27-08-2007 22:25

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theyve being going off for weeks i wonder if the local bobbies are doing anything about it because im sure its against the law to fire off fireworks in residential areas or was that another useless legistlation that nobody can be bothered to enforce .they must have money to burn lighting them in daylight i would love to shove one where the sun dont shine whoever they are because they are getting on my nerves now..:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Busman747 27-08-2007 22:29

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[QUOTE=mick;464650]This might help Busman
Firework law


"Consumers, along with retailers, have new responsibilities. Fireworks will only be widely available during the weeks leading up to Bonfire Night and a few days before New Year's Eve, Diwali and Chinese New Year. For the rest of the year, you will only be able to buy fireworks from shops that are licensed to supply them."

Cheers mick for your research,................so why do I not see blue lights flashing in the region of Willows Lane tonight? The statement above is completely flawed, does that mean that if I approach a company "licensed" to sell fireworks, I am ok to let them off at any time of the year??


katex 27-08-2007 22:39

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Well certainly the Chinese set their firecrackers off at any time of the year .. mmm feel a campaign coming on.

garinda 27-08-2007 22:54

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I think the setting off of fireworks should be illegal except on November 5th.

Any excuse and whoosh there up there.

MargaretR 27-08-2007 23:00

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Fireworks are explosives and should be banned TOTALLY
-- well you wouldn't let your neighbours use gelignite or semtex , so why gunpowder -- all are explosives and hazardous when not under expert control

carpon 27-08-2007 23:31

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After having a quick glance through the firework regulations of 2004,Quote:

"fireworks will be safer, less noisy and can only be let off at certain times."

I thought that this act of 2004 was brought in to address the problems caused by the use of fireworks outside the boundaries of acceptable and permitted use?:confused:

I too have had problems relating to the use of fireworks(for purposes other than Guy Fawkes night) by some of my neighbours (both asian and white) and have thankfully managed to persuade most using these fireworks to stop using them, after explaining that they were causing distress to my dog. With those who have been less co-operative, I have issued a polite but stern warning, that should they continue to use the fireworks,I would have no option other than to contact the authorities.

Whilst the latter action may be deemed to be a little confrontational and hasn't won me many fans in the popularity stakes, Up to press I haven't had to contact the authorities as those concerned have heeded the warning.

That being said, it's really up to you how far you are prepared to go. I personally am not intimidated by most,but I realise some do feel wary in such circumstances.:)

steeljack 28-08-2007 02:58

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464670)
Well certainly the Chinese set their firecrackers off at any time of the year .. mmm feel a campaign coming on.

disagree on this , the only time I know when Americans of Chinese descent ( being PC here :rolleyes:) set off fireworks is the Lunar New Year , sometime in February. The Vietnamese/Laotians/Cambodians do it later , around the spring equinox to celebrate Tet
What gets my goat is the 'regular' New Years Eve celebration when every piece of white/brown/black American trash thinks its ok to go out and shoot guns into the air , (bullets go up, bullets come down) from what I read in the news and on this site it won't be long before this comes your way ......:confused: :confused:

Ber999T 28-08-2007 03:26

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Cheers steeljack for that foresight will have to make sure I got good quality kevlar helment on 24/7.

DOCUMENT AND REPORT ALL firework discharges to Police, Trading Standards, council and see if RSPCA want the info so that files can be built up and used if same person/shop crops up within any investigation. Think there is a weblink on police site to report some things and this could be one of them.

panther 28-08-2007 08:14

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muslims can do what they want when they want im afraid, ...I thought it was illegal to let off fire works before november:confused:, but no its after 11pm before 7am.....anytime!

jackyalex 28-08-2007 21:41

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i didnt think you were allowed to light a fire during the day either because of the smoke,would the fireworks not be in the same class due to the smoke?

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 21:48

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 464955)
i didnt think you were allowed to light a fire during the day either because of the smoke,would the fireworks not be in the same class due to the smoke?

You do know that our laws don't count for anything with some people don't you? If they are implemented the claim is often that it is racially motivated, so we have a no win situation once again!!:(

jackyalex 28-08-2007 21:57

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the law applies to all whatever race you come from, i hate it when its one rule for one and another rule for another ,i have a german shepard too and he goes mad at fireworks,lucky round here its only once a year

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 22:43

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 464972)
the law applies to all whatever race you come from, i hate it when its one rule for one and another rule for another ,i have a german shepard too and he goes mad at fireworks,lucky round here its only once a year

But as last night proved the law doesn't apply to all unfortunately!!:(

WillowTheWhisp 30-08-2007 22:08

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You can't even call them fireworks - not as we know fireworks with pretty colours and nice sparkles. They are just hideous loud bangs and should be BANNED.

BERNADETTE 30-08-2007 22:19

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 465620)
You can't even call them fireworks - not as we know fireworks with pretty colours and nice sparkles. They are just hideous loud bangs and should be BANNED.

I think that is highly unlikely to happen, we can't be seen to be racist!!!:(

WillowTheWhisp 30-08-2007 22:23

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Isn't it awfully racist to permit one race of people to do something which adversly affects others?

BERNADETTE 30-08-2007 22:58

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 465633)
Isn't it awfully racist to permit one race of people to do something which adversly affects others?

I am agreeing with you Willow, that is the reaction we would get if the police tried to implement the law!!:(

cashman 30-08-2007 23:17

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 465663)
I am agreeing with you Willow, that is the reaction we would get if the police tried to implement the law!!:(

that would be funny, but its true.:(

BERNADETTE 30-08-2007 23:29

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 465679)
that would be funny, but its true.:(

Like you I only deal in the truth and hopefully I don't offend anybody in the process!:(

cashman 30-08-2007 23:34

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 465690)
Like you I only deal in the truth and hopefully I don't offend anybody in the process!:(

well i reckon if people are offended by the truth- TOUGH.;)

BERNADETTE 30-08-2007 23:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 465694)
well i reckon if people are offended by the truth- TOUGH.;)

My sentiments exactly!!:D


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