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my kids have been protected agaisnt MMR so im glad i got them done,
we all know why its come back , because of parents not giving it to them in fear of Autism:rolleyes:, which i think personally is a load of rubbish!:( measles can be life threatening!!

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I was on holiday when Harry was supposed to have his. Waiting now for a repeat appointment, maybe I should chase it up!?

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i would if i where you lolly, better to be safe than sorry, reece had his when he was a baby too and i dont regret it for one moment

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well all my kids had their mmr at 18 months old,but i refused the second mmr for 5 yr olds,because i think that the first mmr was enough,2 of my kids were in hospital after they had their mmr,they both reacted to the injection so i refuse to let them have anymore and i dont think that parents should be blamed for not giving there kids the mmr if your gonna get measles then your gonna get them wether youve had the mmr or not,i dont understand why parents who dont let them have it are to blame

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I think that parents have a right to make an informed choice.......and there are many so called minor ailments that be life threatening in the appropriate circumstances.

I grew up before there was any vaccine for measles and there were lots of us who had the illness and survived.

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I work in a local residential home for people who are deafblind & have severe learning difficulties. All five of our residents are as they are as a direct result of their mothers being in contact with rubella in the early stages of their pregnancy, it really opened my eyes when I started work there and while I don't want to be the harbinger of doom I really think that if parents can see what rubella can do they wouldn't hesitate to have their kids vaccinated.

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Rubella is different altogether....and girls should be vaccinated to prevent such incidences.

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these things happen wether you have been vaccinated or not and they always will, you also take a risk by giving your child the vaccine,its swings and roundabout to who gets what in life,

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I am fortunate in that I am never going to need to make the decision about whether to have my child vaccinated, but if there was even a 1% chance that My child would be left autistic from being vaccinated then I would not do it.........measles may kill, but I guess I would take the chance of that.
Autism is for life. Personal choice!

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Your view really surprises me Margaret .Autism has not been scientifically proven to have been linked with the measles injection and yes, Autism is long term, but so is death from measles, and swellings of the brain and other long term effects from measles, far outweighing the vague suggestion that the injection causes this condition. Seemingly, there have been no deaths from measles since 1972. They are brought in from other countries, and poor countries are still suffering from bouts of measles and consequently long term and fatal effects.

You can all google the information yourself I am sure .. can't be bothered to put this in my post, but can't understand selfish mothers who do not allow their children to have this injection, for the sake of society as a whole.

Also, in your past profession, think you have to have proof of this injection or immunity before they let you loose on the hospital wards ... should think so too.

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Katex, It hasn't been disproved either.......There was one death recently from measles (last year I think)......while there may have been no scientific proof that this vaccine is causative of autism there is much anecdotal evidence from parents whose children became autistic after the vaccine.
And as I said, it is very much personal choice. As for my medical background, well it doesn't mean that I must agree with everything that is done...or would opt for some of the treatments that are given. Like anything else I make an informed choice.
You also grew up in the era where there was no vaccine, how many people do you know who were brain damaged/died as a result of having this illness? (just a question - you understand)

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Oh....I should say at this point that I am not against a single vaccination against measles.

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Personally, I don't know anyone, however, each time there was an outbreak all those years ago deaths/long term side effects were reported in the press .. 2 per 1,000 deaths.. that is high.

My daughter was born pre-MMR and her and her and her little close friends contracted measles (think she was around 3 years).... believe me I was very scared. She was very very poorly with high temperature streamy noses and swollen eyes .. I never kept my eyes off her the whole way through. That is why seventeen years on I had no compunction in allowing my son to accept this injection.

My daughter now, amongst her duties, is responsible for giving these injections to children and so far has experienced no autistic systems from any of her little patients.

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No, if a child has had the MMR vaccine they will not get measles,mumps or rubella. This is why we vaccinate. If children contracted these illnesses regardless of whether or not they'd been vaccinated what would be the point of doing it?:confused:

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Katex, if the government were serious about their concerns for children, they would make it easier for the parents to opt for the single vaccines....the fact that they don't, makes me feel that somewhere along the line there was some kind of financial deal with the drug companies (who have a lot of clout)...obviously i have no proof of this...it is just my cynical mind......parents have voted with their feet, and that should tell the HPA something.

How would you feel if your child was damaged after a vaccine was given? Isn't Autism a form of brain damage?
As I have said i feel grateful not to be in a position to have to make the choice.

I am certainly not advocating that parents take any notice of my views. I think all parents should research the subject, and only if they feel perfectly safe with the decision they should go ahead and let their child be vaccinated....if they have any doubts at all then I would suggest they find a clinic that will do the single vaccinantion (of course, they will have to pay for this).

I distrust a lot of the information that we are fed from government sources.
According to the government ther was no 'Gulf War' syndrome...yet previously healthy servicemen and women were damaged by the vaccinations that they were given prior to service in the gulf......OK, it may not be exactly the same...but very similar.

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I agree totally that every parent has to make this decision based on data at the present, after all we love our children and just wish to protect them, don't we ? Just that my decision to let my son have this injection was based on first hand experience of measles and information provided at the time.. i.e. to me outweighed not having it.

The measles outbreak talked about above is certainly going to catch some of the children who have not had the injection, and hope that all will be well.

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Yes, our children are the most precious things we will ever have......and we have to do our best by them (as we see it at the time)....and I'm sure that is what most responsible parents do.

Those who choose to take the risk of the illness over the vaccination do so because they believe they are doing the right thing, and I don't think any of us have the right to argue with that.

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i think your wrong there,the vaccine does not stop you from getting the illness it just give you a better immunity to cope with it if you do get it,

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Believe me jackyalex, I am no expert here, but the injection is a mild form of the illness . and once you have had measles, antibodies form to kill it off if it attacks again. That's how the injection works. Tells your body that you have already had it (cause you have) so attacks any further would be invaders. The first injection only covers your children by a certain percentage, and that's why you are advised to go for the second, as this will increase the percentage to almost 100% immunity. In other words, does stop you from getting the illness in the first place.

Help, any medics out there !!.. may be talking load of balderdash, but basically know tis correct.

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this was the info that my health visitors gave me

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Must agree with Kate, that is how I thought it worked though I'm not an expert either. Is it not like the Flu Jab? I thought they both worked on the same principle:confused:

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just found this on kids health website

Remember that measles is very rare, and a child who is properly vaccinated is extremely unlikely to contract the disease.

so it is still possible but not as i was told

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Problem with the flu jab is that there are many forms of flu .. like thousands of cold viruses and cannot guarantee every form. Oh hek, better back off .. don't wish to give any misinformation like.

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Bit like the contraceptive pill I guess, always the possibility, not 100% guaranteed, but 99% a good gamble ... :D

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yes lol like everything else

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thats what i was always told from my health visitors

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Suppose they give you the info they have and let you make the decision.:)

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mind you they said it for every injection my kids had,but im still not letting my kids have anymore of the mmr,but thats only because 2 of my kids had a bad reaction with their 1st,im not against any parent who gives their child the vaccine nor am i against parents refusing the vaccine,at the end of the day the parents do what they feel best for their kids

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Suppose I have been lucky both my kids and all my grand-children have had all the jabs with no adverse reaction.

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Except Margaret, that we would still be all afflicted with smallpox/polio if there had not been a mass inoculation years ago.

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but we still have polio kate,its made a comeback just like tb

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Brought in from other countrys jacky .. haven't heard about the polio, but def. the tb ... all the more to get people (who are not) immunised asap.

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some nurses have had in recently (polio) , but yes it prob did come in from another country,just like rabies that we got rid of its prob back in this country now

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Have you wondered why? We have got people going back and forth to countries that don't have such stringent precautions in place as we have. Granted people thought to be at risk of catching any diseases that are little known of here are offered the relevant vaccination but do they all have them? My sister is going to South Africa in a couple of weeks and although she will be staying with my brother she had to find out where else they would be going and have the relevant jabs to avoid carrying anything home with her, hopefully she can see a bit of the country without compromising people in the UK.

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i dont know much about how you get these diseases,but if you want to go somewhere that has them and you dont take precautions then you may pass them on to people ,why should my health be comprimised by someone else who doesnt take precautions,some disseases are airborn and you cant help that,and i know that some peeps cant afford treatment but thats not in this country

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I know that my sister is having to pay for some jabs and she is quite happy to do that whether everybody else is I don't know:confused: I think it should be compulsory to have whatever jabs are necessary and to have the paperwork to prove that you have!!:(

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Katex.....as I have said in a previous post, I have no qualms with vaccinations per se.......I just think that parents are very wary of a vaccination that may trigger bowel disorders and autism......as i also said in a previous post, if the government really had child health in their interests, then they would offer the single vaccine to parents who find the MMR unacceptable.

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I have met 2 mothers (both fairly local to Accy), in the last 10 years who lost their first child to measles. These women weren't foreigners, they where white, British, and had always lived in this country.
The original research for MMR was heavily flawed, so much so that many of the researchers have distanced themselves from it, at least one of the researchers has faced proceedings by his professional body.
New research (Rodgers, C. 2006) is now linking too many Ultrasound scans in pregnancy with Autism.... Will this stop people from having scans? I don't think so....:)
Vaccination is a personal decision but one which needs to thoroughly weigh the pros and cons of the relevant research and not rely on the media's sensationalist interpretation of the research.

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The advice given to me by my health visitor was that if you are in any doubt as to whether or not to let your child have the MMR vaccine, go to Pendlebury children's hospital in Manchester and see a child that is dying of encephalitis (swelling of the brain) brought on by having measles. If you did this you would not think twice about having your child MMR vaccinated.

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Do you think that tactic would stop smokers as well?......I mean seeing someone gasping to breathe and in pain.....my experience is that it doesn't help at all.

Measles may cause problems with some children - but then so do vaccinations.

Parents must weigh up their own childs needs, and make the decision purely on that.

I wonder how many children the health visitor had seen, who had encephalitis caused by measles.

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They seem to think so, don't they? They're going to put pictures of such things on cigarette packets from 2009.
I wonder what would happen if they put pictures of children with encephalitis on MMR leaflets with a caption that warned people this is what can happen if you don't vaccinate.

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Lilly I watched my father die an agonising death with terminal lung cancer......I have five brothers, all of them smoked at the time and vowed after seeing dad die in this way, to give up the cigarettes.
How many do you think actually managed it? NONE!

I am not against vaccination for measles, but I am against the MMR.......Parents who are really worried about their children getting measles should be able to access the single vaccine more easily....and for the government to pretend they care about the health of children is laughable.....if they did care they would reinstate the single vaccine once they saw that parents were genuinely worried about the effects of MMR on some children.....the fact that the research may be flawed doesn't reassure parents at all.
How often do we see research articles one week which say one thing, and then a few weeks later the research article says quite the opposite?

I distrust government information, and I distrust research articles because I know that some researchers will bias their findings to prove what they want to prove.... a bit like statistics really, how they are portrayed can make a lot of difference.
I am just glad that I have no young babies and am not now likely to have any.

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Got to agree with you about the pictures, Margaret. I've known people who have died of lung cancer but their relatives keep smoking. Regarding the vaccine, of course all parents want to do their best for their children and would not want them to have a vaccine that could do more harm than good. This is what annoys me though, there was never any proof that MMR caused autism. It was just whipped up in the papers and a media panic followed and made parents unneccesarily wary of the vaccine. Now we're getting a rise in measles cases which actually can cause serious harm. Like Lettie said, the silly beggars are now saying too many scans cause autism. Will we be stopping those then?
I don't think they do know what causes autism but if your child has it then you would naturally look for something to blame. I think that the MMR got the blame because the signs of autism aren't so noticeable until the child is 18 months old which is also the age the child has the MMR so people might jump to the conclusion that MMR was the cause when it wasn't.

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You would think that in this day and age a simple blood test would indicate if a child was likely to have any adverse reaction to any vaccine they were likely to have. After all you can now have test to check if you are susceptible to certain diseases, so surely if there is something in the MMR jab that is known to cause autism a simple blood chest when a baby is born would alert medical staff to the problem and the adverse affects could be avoided.