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if you have a fat kid ....blame the microwave
interesting article , just wonder how many mothers (caregivers) are too dam lazy to get their asses into the kitchen and cook proper food for their kids
Another Suspect In Ballooning World Health Problem - Microwave Ovens And The Obesity Epidemic :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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Everyones entitled to their opinions but i do think microwaves are bad-so i dont own one,and havent done for over 18 months now.Some of my friends sterilise their babys bottles in microwave sterilisers and heat their babies milk in the bottles in the microwave which i dont like either (i never say anything to them-its their babies,who am i to say how they do it?).
It is more time consuming to cook without one but seeing as i dont work i have that kind of time on my hands. |
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It's not the microwaving itself that is the problem - it's what you microwave.
If they are only being used to warm up 'ready meals' then yes that's a problem because 'ready meals' can be full of all kinds of junk. You can also buy 'ready meals' which are cooked in a conventional oven and they are equally full of rubbish. However, if you use a microwave oven to actually cook stuff as opposed to warming stuff up it is perfectly possible to have nutritious food. For example how could a jacket potato cooked in a microwave be any more fattening or any less nutritious than one cooked in a gas or conventional electric oven? OK, the skins go harder in an ordinary oven but personally I prefer the softer skin from the microwave. It's like carrots. If you buy them fresh off the market they are much better for you than if you get them out of a tin but I bet more people use tinned carrots for convenience. We don't use our microwave all that often and it's a combi which is quite often used in its 'oven mode' rather than microwave mode but I wouldn't like to be without it for those times when I prefer what it produces. |
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I never cook anything in my microwave. The only thing I use it for is defrosting... especially frozen bread when I put up my butties for work. ;)
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I dont think the microwave is to blame for fat kids, its the rubbish food their fed and lack of exercise, too much time on the computer games etc. I use my microwave to warm up dont give the kids microwave meals, though I'd never say never, I think along with most thing its a balance, occasionally wouldn't do any harm.
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The Proven Dangers of Microwaves
Even good healthy nutritous food is ruined by microwave cooking. (I remember posting this link before - perhaps you missed it then) |
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Thats very interesting Margaret, thankyou.
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It's a bit too easy to blame microwaves, without supplying any evidence, except their introduction was at the same time as the increase in obesity occured.
What about the increased numbers of freezers at the same time, or the massive rise in the number of takeaways? In Oswaldtwistle in 1984 there was four chippies, now there are twenty three takeaways. Personally I blame Thatcher, and the free market economy, for the increase in obesity.:D |
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I have a microwave and its very hardly used the most thing,s i use it for is defrosting and thats a bout all.
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Well if this theory is correct then perhaps I should be a 30 odd stone heaving mass of blubber, my microwave is in use at least twice daily I eat loads of ready meals, (there's only me so why dirty more pots than is necessary?).
As it is I'm about 10 stone wet through! :D |
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It is very easy for 'White' Raymond to lash out from a position of great wealth, not everyone has time to cook the type of culinary delights that that self rightious person has who's every whim are catered for by an army of very poorly paid chefs. When are these wealthy pontificats going to enter the real world,I'll bet he has more than one microwave to cook his crap on!
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Another thing which came on the scene around about the same time as the microwave oven was the additive 'aspartame' used as a sweetener in 'diet' foods and drinks. One of the side effects of this diet miracle is the effect it has on the fat cells. Kids who were a little overweight drank and still do drink diet drinks in order to lose weight and they gain. They aren't consuming sugar so why do they gain? Sugar would actually be less harmful. I fell for the stupid idea of diet drinks and have lived to regret it. I try to avoid aspartame at all costs now.
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I don't think it's the microwave that makes people fat. It's the junk 'food' that's being cooked in them.
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It’s not the microwaves that are the problem but the ready meals that are heated up or cooked in them. It’s all those E numbers and additives. And now science has declared that there is a positive link between E numbers/additives and child hyperactivity.
Anyone with half a brain [email protected] wouldn’t put a sealed container in a microwave as that article that you pointed us to uses as an example why not to use a microwave. Also only an out and out fool would heat up a baby’s bottle and stick it in it’s gob without testing it first. If I have a choice I will use the gas oven rather than the microwave but that is only because the oven cooking takes longer and I can stay at the keyboard. The problem with cooking for one is that you still have the same number of pots and pans to wash that you would have when cooking for a family of four or more. Talking of TV chefs like you were Ianto.W. – I wonder how much cooking they would do if they also had to do the washing up by hand? Most of the ready meals especially supermarkets own brand are less nutritious anyway. Even home cooked meals can have the goodness boiled out of them. But worse than that is the raw food that you buy. It isn’t as nutritious as it used to be because the god of money has taken over and vegetables are grown too fast. Meat on the hoof is reared with adulterated feed to increase the yield. Poultry is a classic example. Vegetables need the growing time to develop the nutrients and taste. You cannot hurry nature and if you do the penalty is lesser quality goods. Even if you grow your own vegetables organically in your own garden you are more likely to be using seed of lesser quality vegetables rather than the older and tastier varieties. Even genuine Jersey Royals don’t taste half as good as they used to. The only really fresh fish that you are likely to get is if you catch it yourself or you are lucky enough to find an inshore fishing boat that delivers its catch ashore the day that it is caught. Otherwise the deep sea trawlers are at sea for weeks at a time and the catch is frozen in the hold. By the time that a fishmonger gets it, it is weeks old and has lost much of its flavour. Ah! Well! Time for a frozen pizza heated in the microwave. |
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Extracts from the links I gave earlier -
<<The conclusion was clear: microwave cooking changed the nutrients so that changes took place in the participants' blood; these were not healthy changes but were changes that could cause deterioration in the human systems. Significant changes were discovered in the blood of the volunteers who consumed foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a decrease in all hemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratio.>> <<Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators point in a direction away from robust health and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food.>> Is that not reason enough to say 'microwaved food is bad for you' ? |
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Medical science is not as accurate as the boffins like to make out. Every person is different and could react differently to the same intake. Were all the people who took part in the test of the same or similar blood group or tissue type? Were the volunteers purged of ‘bad foods’ for at least 48 hours before the test? I have a full blood test twice a year and have done for the last 15 years, which necessitates me not eating or drinking anything except water for 12 hours before the legalised vampire draws the blood. The tests have always come back showing no problems at all. On one occasion I completely forgot about the forthcoming test and had my normal breakfast of a cereal with cold milk and loads of sugar, not forgetting several cups of sweet tea during those ‘fasting’ hours. The result on that occasion was no different to all the rest. The test was classed as normal. No raised blood sugar levels no nothing. Many scientists have specific funding to carry out a particular research. If they can come up with some startling results the funding continues and they have an income for a few more years. If they don’t, the funding dries up and they have to do something else, for which they may not get funding. Sorry but the best that I can do is to say that there may be something in what the boffins state but I would need further independent evidence to change my mind. |
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So if microwaves are to blame for fat kids. What was to blame for fat kids pre microwave.?
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Bring back rationing even the kid's of the Blackmarket barons were thin, they were to busy delivering bent grub.I personally do not remember any fat people post war only one I recolect was in the ffifties and he had 'glandular problems his only problem was finding clothes to fit him,he had a v sown in his backside,that's how I remember him.microwaves were an invention of wartime, they were used to create localised heat to enable the production of fuel and hydraulic pipes for aircraft, Bristol Aircraft at Clayton had one, it came frm Usa, it was considered a very dangerous machine to work on as it emitted waves that made your hair fall out,I had to attemt to repair itin about 1964 but it was beond me a firm frm Manchester came to it they were calle d
radiovisor or something like that, yes leaky microwaves are very dodgytackle |
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That’s nonsense Tin Monkey. They mean FEW overweight children. During my school years (up to 1952) we had a couple of fat lads in my class, as did other classes. Their problem was pies, meat pies, potato pies and chips and puddings.
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Apparently microwaves are used to cook crack cocaine, and most drug addicts seem to be very slim.:D
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Theres loads of them around-they test the bottle for the first few weeks then get used to how long to put it in the microwave then after that just heat the bottle n give it straight to the baby-even if they use different microwaves :rolleyes: My friends do it all the time-even the ones i consider to be fairly good parents in all other aspects. I once had a friend stay at mine with her very young baby-she made the bottles and whilst they were still boiling hot put them in the fridge(!),then when she wanted them,put them in the microwave (whilst i cringed n bit my tongue),then gave it straight to the baby-but not the first time cos i said my MW may be a diff wattage to your own so test it....so she did.......by dipping her finger in the milk :( |
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A bit like blaming the car when someone knocks someone down. |
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slightly of thread it was disclosed yesterday that three
obese children i think in newcastle were being taken away by social services for their own good..not the microwave mind |
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As for these tests done which prove microwaves are harmful - did all the participants weigh the same and have the same fitness level? Did they even have the same metabolic rate? Surely the tests would be more relevant if carried out on the same person? If they got 100 people and did all the tests on all 100 of them and then compared results (excluding situations relating to female menstrual cycle and anyone who might be under the weather with a cold or something) that could produce a more accurately reliable result. |
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here here....the lazyness of parents |
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While your at it how about given them a score out of 10. |
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do you want all the phone numbers too Neil? lol
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Didn't there used to be a regular column in The Observer where they went round reviewing takeaways and scoring them out of ten?
Now there's quality journalism. ;) |
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Only if they score 8 or above |
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Today's figure includes pizza places, sandwich shops etc, and places that have horses roasting on spits. |
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its too much food that makes a kid fat, not bloody microwaves!!Attachment 9981
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I wuold not knowingly consume anythingnthat had been inside amicrowave device,in my short life I have been exposed to far to much radioactivity, to try to keep alivealso to locate my disease ie nuclear scans, a dose of radioactive fluid is injectedinto the bloodstream before the body passes through a radioactive tube.in short a man/woman sized microwave.device. better left alone in my opinion.
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I very rarely eat microwaved food. And me and my girlfriend have already talked about giving the little one microwaved food when he is older, and we both agreed its a bad idea. I cant understand why people think microwaved food is quicker to make, most of them take roughly 8minutes, in 8 minutes i could probably prepare a full meal and then it just needs leaving to cook and serving 20minutes later. Its not hard to cook. But i think its unfair to just blame food for kids being fat, anyone with any sense will tell you that in order to maintain a reasonable weight regular exercise is essential, but most the kids i know are far more interested in computer games and tv, parents need to teach thier children better about the problems of being overweight. And as for the warming of babies bottles in the microwave we were told by several health professionals that its not a good idea, as microwaves dont heat things evenly so what seems like a fine temperature at first could have a scolding hot patch in the middle.
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