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lindsay ormerod 20-09-2007 21:44

Harry Potter is the devil in disguise !
 
Our town's most outspoken vicar is once again throwing his toys out of the pram !
The Rev. Kevin Logan is quoted in this week's Observer as saying that Harry Potter books encourage kids "to be curious in an area that God forbids " namely the occult and paganism.
What utter baloney.
Logan also goes on to say " is it worth telling young people about our real saviour, Jesus Christ, while we run the risk of losing their souls to witchcraft because of stories like these ?"
He goes on... " I find it hard to understand how 21st century man with all his technology seems to be turning towards superstition. "

I am sorry but what is going on in his head ?
The Bible is a great book , no doubt about that, but to try to tell us that our kids will grow up to be more interested in the occult because they have read a Harry Potter book and not the Bible is quite frankly ludicrous.
So , good people of Accyweb; have any of you noticed your kids dabbling in the occult since reading the last Harry Potter book?
Discuss.....

cmonstanley 20-09-2007 21:47

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yea they started wearing a dog collar and started spurting rubbish in the press:D:D:D

lancsdave 20-09-2007 21:47

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Which ( or should that be Witch :) ) do you think is responsible for most of the worlds wars and problems, Religion or Harry Potter ? I rest my case :D

lindsay ormerod 20-09-2007 21:52

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BTW this is the same Vicar who once openly accused me of being a "Satanist" at a quiz night because I had a t- shirt on with a " heavy metal" bands name on it !
This bloke is taken seriously and he has a book out on this subject; it's a real issue to him, he will be erecting a stake for burning witches given half a chance .

lancsdave 20-09-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 472570)
he will be erecting a stake for burning witches given half a chance .

Oh good, will save me some money divorcing my ex :rofl38:

cmonstanley 20-09-2007 22:05

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:Dyou mean he was in a pub where satan drinks it must have been the castle [greyskull]

Doug 20-09-2007 22:08

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 472573)
Oh good, will save me some money divorcing my ex :rofl38:


Tut..............:eek:.

You might want to keep an eye on the ****** your with now. She's got a familiar in the shape of a large Bush………..:D

Stuff like this keep's doing the rounds but I would think the internet would form a greater risk tha Master Potter......:). I've dabbled over the years and I've had a few bumps; but no harm done to self or others.

shillelagh 20-09-2007 22:19

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Well i hate to disappoint him but i dont know anyone who's read the latest harry potter and then gone out practicing the occult.......... well not yet anyway!!! (That is if you dont count Doug):D:D:D

cashman 20-09-2007 22:23

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Mr Logan i think, brings a whole new meaning to the word "Pillock";)

lindsay ormerod 20-09-2007 22:24

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He seems to revel in the publicity; if it reaches the tabloids it just makes us look even more like Royston Vasey !

cashman 20-09-2007 22:26

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 472588)
He seems to revel in the publicity; if it reaches the tabloids it just makes us look even more like Royston Vasey !

who or what is that linds?:confused:

lindsay ormerod 20-09-2007 22:30

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The " village" in the tv show " League of Gentlemen" where they are all odd and interbred and don't like people who aren't "local" . Bit like " the "Wickerman " in comedy form. Think the original idea was to set it somewhere up near Bacup !

WillowTheWhisp 21-09-2007 06:53

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When I saw the headlines I KNEW it just had to be him!

What the Rev Kev and others like him seem to forget is that for centuries children have read fairy stories with wicked witches and evil wizards in them. Has anybody ever started practicing black magic after watching Judy Garland in "The Wizard of Oz" ?

All he's doing is getting Christianity a bad name.

If he ever bothered to read Harry Potter he would see they are adventure stories where good eventually triumphs over evil. Good moral story that.

Lolly 21-09-2007 10:37

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Does this guy know that half of the stuff in Christianity was nicked from other religions including Paganism & Sun Worshippers. Because Constantine who decided to unify all religions was a Pagan. For example:

Angels Halo's have been taken from Egyptian Sun Discs, The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, Jesus' actual Birthday is thought to be some time in April. Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagan's veneration day of the sun.

Most of these things, including when Easter should be held were decided by the Council of Nicaea.

On the Harry Potter thing young children will just go around with a stick shouting "Expelliarmus" if they do think to look into The Occult & Paganism then i'm assuming that they are old enough to realise what it is.

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 472639)
When I saw the headlines I KNEW it just had to be him!

What the Rev Kev and others like him seem to forget is that for centuries children have read fairy stories with wicked witches and evil wizards in them. Has anybody ever started practicing black magic after watching Judy Garland in "The Wizard of Oz" ?

All he's doing is getting Christianity a bad name.

If he ever bothered to read Harry Potter he would see they are adventure stories where good eventually triumphs over evil. Good moral story that.

Harry and co do not have wings white gowns or a hallo so in his eyes they should not be battling evil. So in his opinion the big dude upstairs should be doing it with his angels. Its codswallop because if that attitude was to ring all over we would have no society. Children learn from stories that are showing right from wrong good from evil etc. So by his reasoning the evil people that murder kids should be chased caught and tried by the clergy? That is the impression I get of this collared twallly!

My daughter has read the books and it has done no harm to her at all. That I believe applies to all kids that read these books.

WillowTheWhisp 21-09-2007 14:21

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My girls and I have read all the books. It's always been a summer tradition with us to take them on holiday.

Mind you, I do have a lot of witchy stuff in the house and Em has some in her room! Have I damned them for all eternity?

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2007 14:29

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 472747)
My girls and I have read all the books. It's always been a summer tradition with us to take them on holiday.

Mind you, I do have a lot of witchy stuff in the house and Em has some in her room! Have I damned them for all eternity?

Doubt it but my daughter says she can curse her gran and all will be happy. :eek: Dont think the books are to blame though. :D

firefighter753 21-09-2007 18:12

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I am half way through this book and the idiot has spoilt it by telling everyone what Harry does at the end, the observer should have printed in large letters that this news article contains a spoiler, I feel robbed.

grego 21-09-2007 18:24

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I dont think the Observer should have printed that crud in the first place.

lindsay ormerod 21-09-2007 19:24

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Originally Posted by firefighter753 (Post 472810)
I am half way through this book and the idiot has spoilt it by telling everyone what Harry does at the end, the observer should have printed in large letters that this news article contains a spoiler, I feel robbed.

Have a word with the Rev Kev; [email protected]
He expressly asks for our comments !
He even puts his phone number in the article....01254 235089.
I am astonished at the bloke's stupidity/naievety.:confused:

shillelagh 21-09-2007 20:02

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By the way i just read what hes written in the accy observer - looks like someone hasnt read the book!!!!:D:D:D Looks like hes read the spoilers and took them as gospel!!!:p:D:D

West Ender 21-09-2007 20:47

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Your reverend gentleman isn't the only one with barmy ideas like that. A couple of years ago my daughter, who runs a Brownie pack, suggested to parents that their end of year party should have a Harry Potter theme. At least 6 parents objected on the grounds that the books are evil and dabbling in witchcraft so she had to abandon the idea.

It makes you wonder what planet these people are on.

Ianto.W. 21-09-2007 20:52

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Harry Potter obviously does not put money in Logans collection box, this devil dodger need's to look in a full length mirror.He is a dangerous man with outdated ideas that have no place in modern thinking, his bigoted view on religion is a joke, he would have personally hung 'mother Demdyke' fokelore and religion are poles apart based on fear and ignorance

Lilly 21-09-2007 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 472566)
have any of you noticed your kids dabbling in the occult since reading the last Harry Potter book?
.

No, not yet :rolleyes:. What a load of old bunkum that vicar is talking. It's all good stuff is Harry Potter.:)

lindsay ormerod 21-09-2007 22:11

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Perhaps the Rev would come on here and discuss his views ?

WillowTheWhisp 21-09-2007 22:16

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I think he means well but I do think he's got the wrong end of the (broom)stick and got things totally out of proportion.

Ianto.W. 21-09-2007 22:29

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 472918)
Perhaps the Rev would come on here and discuss his views ?

Ithink we have enough clowns on allready Lindsey.:D

shillelagh 21-09-2007 23:00

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 472925)
Ithink we have enough clowns on allready Lindsey.:D

Hope your not talking about me Ian!!! :D Spug yes i will agree with you on that but not me im a little angel!!!! :D

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2007 23:11

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 472923)
I think he means well but I do think he's got the wrong end of the (broom)stick and got things totally out of proportion.

And sadly it has ended up somewere uncomfortable. :eek:

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2007 23:18

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Maybe Rev Logan should try in here:- Harry Potter for Grownups

firefighter753 22-09-2007 09:23

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I thought rev logan was a prat until I read this. Now this guy is a £$*&.

Harry Potter Books Controlling Kids (from Lancashire Telegraph)

Can someone please tell these idiots that is is only FICTION. They will be asking the question next wether it is safe to send your goats across bridges in case a troll jumps out and eats them.

WillowTheWhisp 22-09-2007 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by firefighter753 (Post 473010)
I thought rev logan was a prat until I read this. Now this guy is a £$*&.

Harry Potter Books Controlling Kids (from Lancashire Telegraph)

The funny thing is that there are lots of wonderful Arabian stories involving magic, and isn't the Arab world where Islam originated?

SPUGGIE J 22-09-2007 11:39

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What will be next from him I wonder? Personally I think "Lord of the Rings" might be next based on his comments about Harry.

Claire Cal 22-09-2007 11:50

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The thing that annoys me the most as a big Harry Potter fan is that he has told me the ending of the book. When the new book came out i re read the 6th book so i have just got round to reading the last book. So now thanks to this man i know that Harry Potter dies. Well gutted and very annoyed

WillowTheWhisp 22-09-2007 13:26

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Claire - bear in mind that HE hasn't read the book - he hasn't told you the ending! ;) Now have I gone and spoilt it? :D

Acrylic-bob 22-09-2007 16:50

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I haven't read the last book or the article in the observer, so thanks, Clair Cal, for giving the ending away.

As for the Rev Kev, what can I say that hasn't already been said by members more eloquent than I? Well, haven't we heard it all before? Bigotry, even at second hand, is still bigotry. But, then, bigots, generally speaking, are not renowned for the originality of their thinking. I am astonished that anyone with even a modicum of sense would give the poisonous rantings of this clown any credence whatsoever. Which would seem to suggest that the people who staff our local organ lack any sense whatsoever; I am sure that this revelation comes as no surprise to anyone.

I think we should all send back our copies of The Observer to the editor along with a terse note suggesting that more reports from the same source will result in a fall in sales. That should "stop his tap"!

katex 23-09-2007 11:45

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 473156)

I think we should all send back our copies of The Observer to the editor along with a terse note suggesting that more reports from the same source will result in a fall in sales. That should "stop his tap"!

Don't think we can blame The Observer for publishing this A-B .. bet they laughed themselves senseless whilst writing it ! Can't print all sensible thoughts all the time, wouldn't be newsworthy and rather boring.

You can bet on some juicy letters to the Editor next week though and, to be fair, they will print them.

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2007 15:21

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My daughters have been on a youth camp with our church (just a weekendy thing, went Friday night.) Emzie took a 'pillow' as well as her sleeping bag. The pillow is in fact a cushion with some witchy wizardy stuff on it. I have not had any messages from the leaders about the dangers of her dabbling in the occult by going to sleep with her head on such a terrible pillow.

The dangers of evil are all very real. I believe that Satan is real and than anyone who does worship Satan and dabbles in the dangerous stuff could easily get out of their depth in something they don't understand - but that's a million miles away from Harry Potter and a darn good moral yarn.

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2007 16:52

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Just been watching an old Simpson episode in which Flanders says Harry died went to hell. He then burnt the book. Wonder if Rev Logan was the basis of Flanders? :)

garinda 23-09-2007 17:09

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 472570)
BTW this is the same Vicar who once openly accused me of being a "Satanist" at a quiz night because I had a t- shirt on with a " heavy metal" bands name on it !

He's the same man of God who said many times in the press in the eighties, that AIDS was God's punishment for the sin of homosexuality. Although one presumes he meant male homosexuals, as lesbians were one of the least unaffected group of people from the disease.

He's been silent on that subject of late, now that it's mainly thousands of African babies dieing from AIDS related illnesses everyday, and I suppose it fills his days worrying about the affect Harry Potter is having on young and old alike.

The man is an idiot, and the God I know won't be too pleased when the man arrives at the Pearly Gates himself.


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