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hedman2003

24-09-2007 20:40

10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

how can a judge give the idiot driving at 172 mph a 10 week jail sentence

the guy should have got more like 10 years

shakermaker

24-09-2007 20:41

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

You have to knock over 10 MPs at 200mph to get a decent sentence these days.

...might try it :D

entwisi

24-09-2007 20:59

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

whereas you don't even get jail for sexual assault of an 18 month old....

BBC NEWS | England | Bristol | Man spared jail for sex attacks

go figure.

Tin Monkey

24-09-2007 21:00

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

Hmmmm.... 172mph? I'm not that impressed.

Now if he'd have been doing it in reverse, I may have raised an eyebrow.

garinda

24-09-2007 22:23

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 473913)

Hmmmm.... 172mph? I'm not that impressed.

Now if he'd have been doing it in reverse, I may have raised an eyebrow.

Although the fact that he was a fat man in such a small car doing that speed, impressed me.

Agree with others, the sentence is appalling, and the whole system needs overhauling.

SPUGGIE J

24-09-2007 23:27

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 473908)

You have to knock over 10 MPs at 200mph to get a decent sentence these days.

...might try it :D

Depending on which ones then you might get a commendation from the govenment. :eek::eek:;)

Doug	24-09-2007 23:39

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

Just the sort of ****e you get these day's. He'd have done 180 if he had taken the Aston.

The intent should have brought him 12 months at least and a ban for life.

cashman

25-09-2007 00:16

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whilst hes got a bit of bird, there is no balance in sentencing these days as the link entwisi illustrates,think folk should be more irate at that. whilst i think the sentence aint enough for him, the sentence for a pervert seems non-existant.:rolleyes:

entwisi

25-09-2007 07:05

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

<Devils advocate>
not condoning it wholly but one thing that isn't mentioned about the speeding is what time/conditions etc. Not knowing this road I can't comment fully and yes its illegal but there are roads I've ridden on my bike where I know there are no junctions, nothing to pull out, good visibility etc. put that road at 6am on a dead sunday morning and a properly focussed and concentrating driver can do that sort of speed in relative safety.

Likewise 30 mph past a school at 3-4pm on a wet windy, horrible winters night is plain stupid.

</devils advocate>

Neil	25-09-2007 07:18

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 473996)

Is that admitting that you need 10 weeks of jail time? :rolleyes::D

***Mr D***

25-09-2007 08:58

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Got to agree with Entwi, Full Facts should be known, as high speed can be done with safty in mind for others at the right time and place.

As for giving him bird, just shows the pathetic system we have, when child abusers get away with nothing, but a speeder gets 6 months, MOST drink Drivers dont get that and IMO they are more a danager to the public.

entwisi

25-09-2007 09:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 473997)

Is that admitting that you need 10 weeks of jail time? :rolleyes::D

Goodness me, If you could be done on regression therapy evidence I reckon half the bikers in the UK would be in clink :D

Lets be honest, even 'family cars' like modeo st220's can do ~150 nowadays. My Dad always said a monkey with a brick on the accelerator can drive fast, its for how long before he crashes that changes with skill.

Speed doesn't kill, its a sudden change in speed that does! :D

grego

25-09-2007 13:40

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I think the whole justice system is wrong, ban and a big fine is more appropriate, he hasn't caused any injury by his actions (this time). I also agree that the other factors should be taken into consideration too.

panther

25-09-2007 13:57

Re: 10 weeks prison for driving at 172mph

would have to agree there grego, its costings us now keeping in in there!!!
he should have a got a lifetime ban and a BIG fine

jambutty

25-09-2007 22:20

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 473996)

In the UK it is a maximum of 70 mph on specified roads and that means precisely what it states. It does not mean you can go twice as fast if the roads are dry and clear of other traffic. The time and road conditions only come into the equation if they are less than favourable and drivers are expected to reduce their speed to take them into account if they are, not increase their speed just because it happens to be dry and clear.

Whether you think that the road conditions would allow you to travel at excessive speeds in safety is irrelevant. Go above 70 mph and you break the Road Traffic Laws. It is as simple as that.

All speed limits are qualified with - if road conditions allow. There are thousands of miles of country roads where the speed limit is 30 mph yet to travel along them at that speed would be foolish. What sort of a response do you think that your defence of “your honour I was only doing 29 mph but I had to go wide at the bend otherwise I couldn’t have negotiated the corner” would bring?

On the face of it 10 weeks clink does seem lenient but he was also banned for three years and order to re-take the test.

entwisi

26-09-2007 07:06

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You missed the bit where i said "yes its illegal" then?

and yes I've travelled at speeds in excess of teh limit and I'm still here to tell the tale. could it be that teh goverment work to the lowest common denominator and make speed limits based on the premise that there are crap drivers out there who are dangerous over 10 mph? Those of us who do pay attention, consider our driving, review and critique ourselves where necessary and generally 'have a clue' have to work with laws based on teh skills of others.

Police drivers are trained and skilled in driving fast, thats why they are allowed to break speed limits, IF IT WASN'T SAFE TO TRAVEL OVER THE LIMIT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED!!!

jambutty

26-09-2007 12:09

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 474339)

Would you have the speed limits set at the ‘highest common denominator” then?

It is the arrogance of drivers that declare themselves as great drivers that are the greatest cause for concern. Because of their misplaced self confidence in unproven skills they become a danger to other road users.

If you are not prepared to abide by the Road Traffic Acts, then get off the road. You are a menace!!!

For your information the police are not allowed to break the speed limits per sec. They are only allowed to exceed the set speed limit under certain circumstances and even then if they cause an accident they will be charged accordingly.

kathleen_firth

28-09-2007 17:47

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i thought 10 weeks was alot considering the sentences these days
im not saying he shouldnt of got more though a heffty fine would of been a bonus aswell though

Ianto.W.

29-09-2007 06:13

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Only ever happened to me once when the EX WIFES writ server was chasing me :D

grego

29-09-2007 08:42

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I thought the 10 week jail sentance was too much, dont think he should've been given a prison term at all, I thought our prisons were full to busting thats why the perverts are getting suspended sentances. I'd much rather see the perverts behind bars and the speeders banned and fined.

katex

29-09-2007 11:23

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 475285)

Agree with you on this Grego, after all prison is meant for offenders who would be a further danger to society; speeding drivers 'off the road' are probably decent people (surprising how some people change behind a wheel) so just taking them off the road for longer periods would resolve the problem I feel.

Yes, speeds of the nature this guy reached are a crime, I know .. but if they take away his toy .. don't feel he would take it out in any other way.

Lolly

29-09-2007 14:06

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This was Jeremy Clarksons take on it (taken from The Sun):

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"How on earth did speed freak Tim Brady get a prison sentence for doing 172mph on the A420 last week? I've done 172mph so I know what it feels like. And to do this kind of speed on the A420 - a road I know well - you'd have to be a swivel eyed loony! So why didn't he tell the court he was insane and get himself sentenced to 2 weeks of comfy counselling instead? After all thats what murderers do!!

I think 10 weeks is pathetic. What posessed him get get up to that sort of speed?? If you want to go fast then go on a rollercoaster. I think Jeremy Clarkson is right. He must be a nutter!!

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