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A recent short news item revealed that Asda is going to trial a scheme where drivers who park in disabled bays without displaying the Blue Badge and in those bays reserved for parents with small children without a small child on board, will get fined £60. With a view to doing the same at all Asda stores in due course.

Good! Good and thrice good! I really look forward to Asda at Grimshaw Park, Blackburn doing the same.

However the parent and child parking abuse could prove interesting.

During these last 15 years or so I have written on numerous occasions to complain about drivers using the disabled bays and just as importantly complained that the Asda car park staff were not doing anything about it. Local managers have been full of apologies and platitudes but never any action, even when I presented them with the evidence in front of their own eyes. They just scuttled back to their offices. Hence my email letters to head office.

I assume that I was not alone in this crusade but it is gratifying to discover that at long last Asda management have listened and decided to do something about it.

Tesco etc. please take note.

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Out of curiosity what defines a 'small child'

I think I also read somewhere that the fine is not enforceable ?

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I can only imagine that a small child would defined as one that has to use one of those booster cushions whilst in the car. Only guessing tho.

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What indeed? The other point is how would they identify an empty car as one that does not have a child with it? Asda senior management haven’t thought things through.

The fine would be enforceable if notices to the effect were displayed prominently. It is private land and as such the landowner – Asda – has the right to make such conditions.

What Asda would do if someone refused to pay up is another matter though. Wheel clamps maybe? But that wouldn’t release the parking bay for a legitimate user.

I think that Asda should put a large flyer (at least A4 (approximately US Letter)) on the windscreen or rear window to declare to the world something like, “Please do not park in bays reserved for xxxxxxxx” in as large letters as possible. Then put out a call for the driver of the vehicle and get them to move it right away. Then if the driver doesn’t respond clamp the vehicle with a £60 release fee.

In fact come to think of it maybe Traffic Wardens and PCSO’s should also carry such flyers to use when inconsiderate motorists park in disabled bays on the public highway.

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I always used to get a bit cross with the people who parked in the parent and toddler section when they clearly didn't have toddlers or even toddler seats in the car. I saw someone getting out of her car once and she didn't have a kid with her so I told her that it was reserved for people with toddlers and she told me to 'f off and she'd park where she liked'.

I don't use those places any more because my youngest is 5 so I would say that they are for parents with kids about 2 yrs or younger - ones that can't walk far!

Actually another reason why I don't use those spaces is because I have mine delivered because they well and truly screwed up the Accy car park some time ago!

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Anyone and everyone who shops at ASDA deserves a sixty quid fine, anyway.

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On what basis, they can't afford M&S ? :)

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what gets up my nose is when disabled people park in disabled bays then sit there and let there not disabled partner go and shop so i hope these people will get a double fine my da d would often argue with disabled people ass he was disabled and coudnt park because of this

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up until last year my son (then ten) had to use one, so i doubt that would be acceptable

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Really? Why is that?

Or is it just a ‘crackpot’ idea?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Has it ever occurred to you that the able bodied person has gone to do the shopping because the disabled driver is unable to do the actual shopping him/herself and the able bodied person does not drive?

Just as long as the blue badge holder is in the car and displaying the blue badge the car can be legitimately parked in a disabled bay.

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no you are wrong the badge does not cover the able bodied people so why should some abled bodied person need to park closer what bull if your not getting out of car because your disabled why do you need to park there?

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my kid is 6 and i park in the the kids spot, and ill be damned if im going to stop,:D
also what happens if a disabled badge holder parks in the kids spot, will they get fined?, cuz iv seen a lot do it!

also why do the disabled badge holders have to park near the entrances?, if they can walk round a supermarket, they can walk from another parking spot!!
i reckon the only people with wheel chairs or those who cant walk and need those scooter trollies indoors should only use the spaces.... ;)

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LOL Panther .. re. the disabled badge holder parking in kids spot .. good point.

I was just about to put up something as per your last paragraph .. not coming up in your post ? Perhaps amended too late ?

Think is probably more to do with space than walking distances .. e.g. safer for children then they don't run into the main lane and being able to put a pram at the side of the car, etc., plus as Willow mentioned, reaching into a car to fasten in child seats, etc. As with the disabled too, probably need to get out wheelchair or exit with car door wide open as sometimes difficult physically to bend legs, etc.

I had this experience after an accident 20 years ago which broke my hip, which didn't heal .. (had hip replacement 3 years after and now great).. had to cope with a young 4 year old at the time and as the hip necrosed needed to literally lift my leg out of the car, and needed to open it wide (the door !). Wasn't disabled spaces then at the old Asda on Blackburn Road, but would have been grateful, I can tell you.

Must admit, don't see too many people abusing the disabled spaces Jambutty ... just a few now and then.

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Oh, the last paragraph has appeared now ... perhaps you were editing at the same time ... :confused:

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oops sos about that, i tend to do it alot.....:o:rolleyes:;)

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I never park in disabled spaces, but these so-called 'parent and child' spaces are fair game. What right do they have to park next to the door? They aren't disabled. There's nothing stopping them from walking a few yards to the supermarket, the same as everyone else.

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I never said that the Blue Badge covered the able bodied person and you know it. Or is this “putting words in my mouth” the only means you have of adding credibility to your point which is as wrong as you can get.

The Blue Badge is issued to a person to be used in ANY vehicle regardless of who is driving it. Whether that disabled person gets out of the vehicle is irrelevant.

If you are a blue badge holder then go and look up the terms of use. If you are not then stop spouting about something you know little about.

The real problem with these Blue Badge haters is that they are jealous and cannot stand to see anyone get something that they cannot.

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I use the parent and child spaces, I have a five year old and a 11 month old baby, it wouldn't bother me if the spaces weren't close to the door I use them because they're wider which allows me to fully open the car door to get the baby out, on the occasion when there isn't a space available I try to park at the end of a row for the same reason.:)

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Exactly grego ! As Panther and I have mentioned all about space, isn't it !

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Yes, thats whats important to me Kate.

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I think it is relevant whether the disabled person gets out of the car .. does leave it open to abuse. As mentioned, if they are not the person getting out of the car, and shopping purely for the non-disabled, then they should not be in the disabled spot; have experience of this.

I don't think anyone is jealous of a Blue Badge holder at all if it is genuine ..you are the one that is making the hooha about it.

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Because they are disabled and unable to walk any decent distance. So the parking bays, quite rightly, are placed as close to the entrance as is practical. In fact at Asda, Grimshaw Park, Blackburn there are many normal parking spots and all the mother and toddler places that are closer to the entrance than half the disabled places.

So you reckon that if a disabled person can walk around a supermarket they can also walk from a distant parking spot do you? Blue Badge holders get the badge because their walking distance is limited so to make them walk lengthy distances before even getting to the supermarket door is totally insensitive.

Many disabled people can just about manage a slow stroll around a supermarket but would be stumped if required to also walk from a distant parking spot. You would also do well to remember that whilst inside the building they have a trolley to lean on. Those trolleys can be as good as a Zimmer frame in aiding people to walk.

Just thank your lucky stars that you are not disabled and stop being such a selfish prig.

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I was given a choice between having a car display badge or a 50p flat rate disabled bus pass, (having both is not allowed).
I find that grocery delivery is best for me, so chose the bus pass.
I can drive from home and park free near a bus stop and go wherever I want cheaply.
I rarely 'do shopping' so I find the bus pass is a more economical way to travel about the county for a day out and perhaps buy some small items I have been unable to buy online.
I just wish that some towns would provide more places to sit down - I consider this to be an essential disabled amenity -the majority of us aren't bad enough to need wheelchairs. Perhaps such provision has been misused by drunks in the past and has been limited as a result -a pity.
I would like to see seating in town centres given the same priority as disabled access for wheelchairs has had.

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Any parking space designated for a specific purpose is not fair game except to those selfish and self opinionated people who think that rules are for everyone except themselves.

Are you yet another one who is envious of what some people can have and you cannot?

My thanks to the anonymous negative Karma awarding person who stated, “do you really have nothing else better to do than complain and post the constat complaints on here?”

My answer is not printable here. However I will inform that person that I am still capable of drawing a long bow with either hand and showing him/her that I can do so. If you do not understand that then you should have paid more attention to your history lessons at school.

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i no more than you think you have no right to take up a disable bay unless you the disabled person gets out of the car the badge does not cover ablebodied people you are a bad advert for disabled people i have no problem with these bays if you are disabled and cant walk that far as i said my dad was a cripple and people like you made him walk further than he needed how can you justive parking near for able bodied person get real

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like a prat you contredicte yourself i agree if you are disabled and have problen walking you should be near but if you use badge to benefit able people why should we give you respect

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I agree there. It's the space you need when you're faffing around with a baby and car seat. It's awful when someone parks really close to your car and you can't open the door wide enough to get the baby back in so these wide spaces are a godsend. :)
Of course it is also a bonus to be as near as possible to the supermarket when you're humping a baby in a car seat along whilst grappling with a toddler and trying to watch the traffic, all at the same time.:D

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please read rulhttp://www.directgov.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/MotoringAndTransport/DG_4001061es

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If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.

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Actually Jambutty, Davo makes a very good point. Why if you are just giving somebody a lift should a disabled badge holder be allowed to take up a place reserved for somebody who is getting out and shopping in the store, and may have difficulty walking to the spot they have been forced to use, because of the individual's selfish action. That is no different than a disabled badge carrying taxi driver using it when s/he is dropping off a fare and then waiting for the next fare.

This is not jealousy this is annoyance at people who may be using the service as specified in the law, but not using it in the spirit intended.

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I doubt that lad. If i had a choice of being able bodied or being disabled and get better parking i think id stay as i am thanks all the same.:D

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You must be quite old to call me lad.

It isn’t about choice and you know it. No one would choose to be disabled just to get the Blue Badge, but there are enough people around who resent the little extra that disabled people get and would like to see the Blue Badge discontinued.

That’s why we get such vociferous arguments about disabled parking with some downright silly reasons.

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If you read the argument you'll see that Davo is actually on the side of the disabled people in this. That is the disabled people who are not abusing the system!

Why have we got this debate going in two different threads? :D

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I took my Grandparents shopping at Morrisons every thursday when I lived in Suffolk,and my Grandad had the blue badge-could I find an empty disabled spot? nope! I think the amount of times I did I can count on the fingers of one hand.
So,I deposited them both at the entrance whilst I parked,and picked em up there at the end.We could usually find a wheelchair without much trouble thankfully.

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think its a good idea, cannot abide selfish gits, so if they park where they shouldnt stuff em.:rolleyes:

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so asda have parking bays for i quote "parent and child" so in theory my mum who is 83 and myself could use it as we are parent and child or a middle aged mum could use it with her 16 year old offspring how old does the definition child cover at asda.i know its streaching a point but perhaps as suggested in earlier posts that asda use ther own staff as parking wardens to enforce rule and clamp offenders and donate release fee,s to charity,it is only a thought but if you are getting clamped it makes you think b4 you do it again

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I didn't post this, but I agree completely. I hope we never have the misfortune to meet. You really are one miserable ******, with what appears to be an enormous chip on your shoulder. :D

As to having wider spaces for prams, etc, then fair enough, but why next to the door? Most parents of young children will be relatively young and well capable of walking a few yards to the store. It would make more sense to have OAP spaces next to the door, alongside the disabled spaces.

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i do know this!!

but some abuse this and have seen people with these badges and walking perfectly fine!

those are the ones i mean:rolleyes:


my relative couldnt walk very far without being in pain and breathless, but he never got a badge, didnt get enough points or summat! thats what gets me mad!, i would love to know how they decide who gets one and who doesnt cuz to me its a load of B*****ks!!!

oh and thanks for bad karma;)
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I never said that you did.

However I did discover that I was unable to award someone with some negative Karma for his crass and insensitive comments about disabled drivers but the system wouldn’t allow me to. Could that have been because the system will not allow, for want of a better description, retaliatory negative awards? If that is the case then I know who the anonymous person was.

But if the best that you can do is to resort to name calling to make your point then you are to be pitied.

In any case what is wrong with complaining about an injustice. If you want to lie down and be walked all over go ahead. I don’t.

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So because some people abuse the Blue Badge privilege you advocate that all the disabled shouldn’t have close to the entrance parking.

So because your relative was not awarded a BB the system is a load ********** is it? Isn’t that like saying because your relative didn’t get a BB no one should have one? That is being a selfish prig.

What! How did you find out it was me? Oh! Yes! I had the guts to put my name to it.

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Anybody read the notice at Asda in Accy? Noticed it earlier but didn't get to read it as my taxi arrived. It is regarding the car park, any clues?

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Good question!!! my mum could take Tinks to asda and get away with taking her small child :D:D:D

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some people including you

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thanks for bad karma i would love to see you make me and when i sent you bad karma at least i had nerve to put name to it

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excuse me i didnt say all!!
some people do need it, some DONT!!,
ya moody sod!!:rolleyes: and ya call me a prig!!

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I think thats a good idea too, there's nothing worse than seeing people parking in these spots when they dont have kids with them.

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You really must be struggling to put your case forward if you have to forge my post (#46) and then try to correct your own grammar.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

I think that you need a lie down in a darkened room for about a year.

My post reads in part:
“So because some people abuse the Blue Badge privilege you advocate that all the disabled shouldn’t have close to the entrance parking.

So because your”

There is no “some people like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!” at the end of my first paragraph.

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Thanks also! That little red square helps to break up the monotony of all the green ones. But it is good to see a name against a Karma award. You are to be commended for that. On this forum we seem to be a rare breed for negative Karma awards. We are not feared of putting our name to comments and don’t skulk behind anonymity.

Now it’s my turn to award you some negative isn’t it? Nah! That’s childish as is a retaliatory award.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Just exactly when did you become qualified to say which disabled driver needs close proximity parking and which doesn’t?

The local authority awards the badges on medical evidence. The local authority decides where to put disabled parking on the highway and municipal car parks. The land owner decides where to put disabled parking on his/her land. So live with it and stop badgering the most vulnerable.

If you think have a case write to the local authority to complain and present your evidence. And stop being such a prig. Prude – stuffed shirt – spoilsport – square – pedant.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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also to get prams out
and other things needed with space for a child

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Wouldn't have noticed before it was raised on here but just watched two women park in a mother and child space and they didn't have any child with them.

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that happenss a lot, we have sometimes had to park at the far end of the carpark because of people like that bernadette.

sometimes i tell em off;)

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They are out of order, I know it was quiet but who is to say that the space won't be needed? They were just so blatant about it, maybe a fine is needed to get through to them.

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Fraudsters cost taxpayers £14.7 million by using unauthorised disabled parking badges | Mail Online

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread after reading the above article

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this is how it should be THE PARENT AND CHILD SPACES should be for parent and child upto 2yrs parent with disabled child upto 10yrs only THE DISABLE SPACE for disabled person going into shop and parent with disabled child from 11yrs up only thats how i would do it witch is fair

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Not sure why a disable child under 11yrs old should be treated differently to those over 11 :confused:

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Me neither Dave

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they are not being treeted different both get to use the allocated spaces but it dosent matter what ages i say you will nit pick it has to start somewhere as for not paying the fine clamp them if they can prove they a child or disabled release them if not they have to pay to get the clamp off within a period of timeor it will be moved and will cost more same when peopple park in disable spaces any where harsh i know but i dont park where i shouldent if i can do it so can others then there wont be problems

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There will always be problems whilst people who are fit and able blag blue badge for there own selfish purposes, and as the article I linked states there are a lot of these dishonest people about :mad:

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I saw two young women today at ASDA jump out of a car parked on mother and child space and run into the store shouting "last one in buys the teas". they had a child seat in the back of the car so it looked OK.

Last week two of our so called Gypsies parked a Transit pick up truck across two disabled bays at ASDA and went in the store, (no doubt to shoplift).

I have only been to a superstore those two times for years so the "offence" must be committed quite a lot.

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They wont give a monkeys because the "fines" are not legally enforceable and any letters about them can safely be ignored. Gypsies just wont get the letters anyway.

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What are you getting so stroppy for ? I don't see why any age has to be applied, a disabled child is a disabled child.

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what gets up my nose is when disabled people park in disabled bays then sit there and let there not disabled partner go and shop so i hope these people will get a double fine my da d would often argue with disabled people ass he was disabled and coudnt park because of this
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My hubby sometimes has to go and sit in the car because he cannot stand any longer while we are shopping and yes we both could have a tag but only had him get it.
So sometimes there is a reason for the person sitting in the car

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But they should not be taking up a disabled parking space, end of story, I suppose the same criteria applies in the USA as it does here, in as much as "that the disabled person must be away from the vehicle when using a Blue Badge", not sat taking up a disabled parking space while an able bodied person does the shopping:(

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What really gets up MY tudor is when someone who could have used a disabled bay takes up the last remaining ordinary bay leaving me nowhere to park.:mad::D

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*LOOOOOOOOOOOOL*

its a shame that supermarkets just dont enforce such things strongly. this was just a flash in the pan two weeks later no one remembered so they didnt care anymore.

i'm sure if they gave the contract to a company who did such things it would be more strictly enforced - esp the disabled bay though i'm sure you'd still get some people trying a fast one with the parent bays

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Thing is, if it is enforced strongly the customers find another supermarket or ignore it completely.

All these tickets are lame attempts at using contract law and private tickets can be ignored
as they are on private land and they have no legal authority to"fine" people.

IMO instead they need to consider where they are putting lots of the places that regularly get abused, like not putting the cash machine right in front of disabled spaces or vis verse.

Some people are just ignorant & you'll never get them to consider others.

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I once drove to ASDA just to use a cash machine.
It was after dark (9pm) and I felt more secure using a machine in a lit area where I could park very near.
I used a 'mother and child space'.
I felt no guilt at using it - any child still in a pushchair ought to be tucked up in bed at that time.
There should be daytime set hours for the restriction to apply, just as there are for daytime parking in town.

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I agree with mother and child for the reason you state Margaret, but not for disabled parking

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I was once babysitting my grandaughter and she became quite ill.so I started the car to warm it up,Carried her to the car and bedded her in.
Drove to Asda Chemist to get her some medication I arrived shortly after after 9-00 to find there was no parking space for either disabled or parent and child.

I was totally distraught _ what can I do.I thought Ah common sense will prevail.

I finally got her into the chemists only to find the entrance filled with people using the cash point machines:eek:

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Don't think anyone could disagree with that , pity all the bright young 30/40 yr old 'technocrats' who dream up these rules don't have the same common sense

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I doubt that you'd find a parking attendant out at 9pm anyway.

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Ya they cause enough trouble 9 to 5:D