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BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 21:13

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Just heard on the news that Huntley is in hospital after trying to commit suicide again. How come he never manages to do the act right? Now it is going to cost a fortune to keep the b........ safe while he is in there. My thoughts go to Holly and Jessica's parents who must once again see his face splashed all over the news. If I was able I would help him to do the job right:mad::mad::mad:

slinky 28-09-2007 21:16

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as the saying goes....... only the good die young!! :mad::mad::mad::mad: ******!!

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2007 21:23

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He is looking for attention thats all. There are many ways to commit suicide yet he always chooses one that he survives. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Mancie 28-09-2007 21:33

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Maybe we can take some satisfaction that at least he is obviously going through some sort of torment, unlike some murdering monsters (Myra Hindley for one) that go about their lives in prison quite happily.
It's ironic that it's almost impossible for him to kill himself while under the high security, if he were just a "normal" prisoner he would probably find it easy, and do everyone a favour.

West Ender 28-09-2007 21:52

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Huntley feels very sorry - for himself. He has been self-pitying since the day he was arrested when, if reports are true, he was trying to feign illness while being interviewed by the police. If he was really trying to kill himself he would do it but I think he thinks he will eventually be sent to a mental hospital rather than a prison.

K.S.H 28-09-2007 22:00

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Why's everyone want to see him dead?
Personally I'd like to see him live to a ripe old age, no I don't agree with what he did one bit but if he manages to top himself then its all over for him, if he lives to a ripe old age then he has lots of years suffering, not suffering enough I agree but at least he's not lived a happy life, can't be happy now if he's trying to top himself

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2007 22:10

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Dont want to see him dead its just he is that bad at killing himself yet killed those 2 lassies with ease. As more the mental torture then he sowed the wind now reap the wirlwinds.

BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 22:14

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Wouldn't bother me if he was dead, just imagine if he had killed your child you would feel differently then. If he was dead it would save the country the cost of keeping him. He is scum.

slinky 28-09-2007 22:26

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 475215)
Wouldn't bother me if he was dead, just imagine if he had killed your child you would feel differently then. If he was dead it would save the country the cost of keeping him. He is scum.

I would only want him dead if it was me that was allowed to kill him!!!

Oh that would be one miserable death!! :mad::mad:

Under normal circumstances I think killing is wrong!! but for this bastard I think the more painful and drawn out the better.

Ianto.W. 28-09-2007 22:27

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This pervert know's just how many pills to take, he is just a headline grabber, it's far easier to hang oneself no Gayle I am not speaking from experience or intention.:D

BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 22:37

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 475220)
I would only want him dead if it was me that was allowed to kill him!!!

Oh that would be one miserable death!! :mad::mad:

Under normal circumstances I think killing is wrong!! but for this bastard I think the more painful and drawn out the better.

Totally agree but they get protection mores the pity.:mad::mad::mad:

slinky 28-09-2007 22:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 475228)
Totally agree but they get protection mores the pity.:mad::mad::mad:

Yeah more is the pity!!

them parents should be able to say what happens to the b'''''rd now! not a judge and jury!!

That is how the system should work!!

The victims should decide the punishment!! what a good crack down on crime!!

grannyclaret 28-09-2007 22:42

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He should have been strung up by his goolies years ago ,,,, :angry8:,

carpon 28-09-2007 22:46

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 475221)
This pervert know's just how many pills to take, he is just a headline grabber, it's far easier to hang oneself

For my mind, Capital punishment should have saved Huntley the trouble.The fact that this B*****D is kept alive just rubs it in more:mad:
Three attempts so far !! Next time let's all hope he does us all a massive favour and gets it right!:mad:

slinky 28-09-2007 22:50

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Yeah if this NONCE succeeds in killing himself, maybe it will free a place up for another NONCE to be sent down, instead of them being let back into the community because there are no more jail spaces :mad:

BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 22:54

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Originally Posted by carpon (Post 475236)
For my mind, Capital punishment should have saved Huntley the trouble.The fact that this B*****D is kept alive just rubs it in more:mad:
Three attempts so far !! Next time let's all hope he does us all a massive favour and gets it right!:mad:

With you all the way just wish I could help him on his way. As Slinky said the parents should decide the punishment. He probably decided prison was boring so a change of scenery would do him good:mad::mad::mad: If he had any intentions of actually topping himself he would have done it the first time :mad::mad:

cashman 28-09-2007 23:54

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just think the press would do holly n jessicas parents a favour if they DID NOT publisise this ******* attempts, they have suffered enough.:(

BERNADETTE 29-09-2007 00:27

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 475249)
just think the press would do holly n jessicas parents a favour if they DID NOT publisise this ******* attempts, they have suffered enough.:(

We all know that is never going to happen, best news all round would be that he was dead.:mad:

Ianto.W. 29-09-2007 05:28

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Huntley is back in 'Jail, the powers that be, are conducting an enquiry into how he obtained the medication There should be an enquiry into how the managed to 'short change' him on the stuff. How long are they, the powers that be, going to tollerate this lunatic wasting public money on enquiries?

alan7554 29-09-2007 07:07

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attemting suicide THREE times and not succedding is a cry for help,so let the prison service help him by leaving a bottle of pills and a jug of water in his cell and forgetting to watch him for 24 hours, CASE CLOSED

grego 29-09-2007 08:10

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I can agree with what KSH said in the fact that he'd suffer for the rest of his life, though I dont think he feels any remorse for his crime only the fact that he was caught. Personally though I'd rather his attempts work, also think that proven murderers with absolutely no doubt should be given lethal injection or whatever and save us tax payers some money. Really feel for Holly and Jessicas parents seeing this mans face all over the news and papers again.

Lilly 29-09-2007 10:15

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It seems to me that Huntley is a coward and that has never had the nerve to really kill himself. If he reallly wanted to die he'd have done it properly by now. He's closely watched in Wakefield but so was Harold Shipman and he managed it.

Margaret Pilkington 29-09-2007 10:18

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The poor baby is having a tough time in prison...did he think it would be a cake walk then?
In my book it would only be tough if they made him work harder than he dreamed anyone alive could work, and fed him only just enough to keep his body and soul together.

shakermaker 29-09-2007 10:25

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The idea of 'an eye for an eye' has never sat well with me. However, as has been said before, the evil **** only feels sorry for himself. He should not have been allowed the chance to make this attempt. By all means the guards should look away when he is getting his head kicked in (and join in), but do NOT let him take the easy way out.

panther 29-09-2007 13:52

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 475212)
Why's everyone want to see him dead?
Personally I'd like to see him live to a ripe old age, no I don't agree with what he did one bit but if he manages to top himself then its all over for him, if he lives to a ripe old age then he has lots of years suffering, not suffering enough I agree but at least he's not lived a happy life, can't be happy now if he's trying to top himself

just what i was gonna say...;)

let the scum suffer

cherokee 29-09-2007 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 475212)
Why's everyone want to see him dead?
Personally I'd like to see him live to a ripe old age, no I don't agree with what he did one bit but if he manages to top himself then its all over for him, if he lives to a ripe old age then he has lots of years suffering, not suffering enough I agree but at least he's not lived a happy life, can't be happy now if he's trying to top himself

my sentiments exactly ... this were my first thought when i saw the news ...keep him alive so he suffers intensly:mad:

West Ender 29-09-2007 15:03

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 475297)
The poor baby is having a tough time in prison...did he think it would be a cake walk then?
In my book it would only be tough if they made him work harder than he dreamed anyone alive could work, and fed him only just enough to keep his body and soul together.


I agree. A hundred years ago there a sentence of Hard Labour and it was hard. Prisoners were often put on a treadmill for 10 hours or more a day and God help them if they didn't make that treadmill work. When capital punishment was abolished it should have been reintroduced.

SPUGGIE J 29-09-2007 15:05

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 475369)
I agree. A hundred years ago there a sentence of Hard Labour and it was hard. Prisoners were often put on a treadmill for 10 hours or more a day and God help them if they didn't make that treadmill work. When capital punishment was abolished it should have been reintroduced.

Oh hell it would be good and solve the energy problem but human rights would get in the way. :D

BERNADETTE 29-09-2007 15:08

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 475352)
my sentiments exactly ... this were my first thought when i saw the news ...keep him alive so he suffers intensly:mad:

Yes but those poor parents are the ones who must really be suffering.At least if he was out of the way his name wouldn't keep appearing on the news.

Bonnyboy 29-09-2007 15:32

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I can only imagine that Huntley must have been found collapsed or something in his cell, so effectively the prison warders have saved him. They should have just shut the little hatch on his door again and fabricated any paperwork they may have had to fill. There may have been an enquiry but it would have been the bloody last onne on his behalf :mad:

cherokee 29-09-2007 23:43

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 475373)
Yes but those poor parents are the ones who must really be suffering.At least if he was out of the way his name wouldn't keep appearing on the news.

I can agree Bernadette it must be painful for the parents to keep having to see thier girls killer on the news but this man commit a most dreadful crime so why should he be allowed to take the easy way out .. he made 2 young beautiful innocents suffer before he took thier lives and left two families to suffer for the rest of thiers ..
What i dont understand ( and i may have missed this on the news ) is how and why did he have access to enough pills to overdose on anyway?

BERNADETTE 29-09-2007 23:51

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 475660)
I can agree Bernadette it must be painful for the parents to keep having to see thier girls killer on the news but this man commit a most dreadful crime so why should he be allowed to take the easy way out .. he made 2 young beautiful innocents suffer before he took thier lives and left two families to suffer for the rest of thiers ..
What i dont understand ( and i may have missed this on the news ) is how and why did he have access to enough pills to overdose on anyway?

I don't know either would just be glad to see the back of him!!!

Margaret Pilkington 30-09-2007 10:18

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 475389)
I can only imagine that Huntley must have been found collapsed or something in his cell, so effectively the prison warders have saved him. They should have just shut the little hatch on his door again and fabricated any paperwork they may have had to fill. There may have been an enquiry but it would have been the bloody last onne on his behalf :mad:

According to the newspaper report that I read Ian Huntley is getting his medication in liquid form so that he can't save it up, but he bought some pills from other inmates....using tobacco as currency....once he had taken the said pills he went and told the prison officers what he had done......so this makes me feel he doesn't really want to die, he just wants to get some attention....and he wants to bring to the attention of the general public, just how hard the prison regime is.

I think he is a confused individual, who thinks that the general public of this country give a damn about his life and prison conditions.

jimmi5bellies 30-09-2007 22:23

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Im glad he was found, taking his own life is the easy copout for him. He needs to accept that he is in there for life !

Reminds me of Fred West .... coward to the end.

mani 01-10-2007 23:11

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didnt he go to the wardens himself sayin he'd had an overdose?

but in a way i'm glad he's trying to do this and failing. this is suffering

the fact he wants to end his life just shows how much he is suffering and its good. keep on trying and keep on failing. 60 yrs of attempted suicides isnt enough.

Ianto.W. 02-10-2007 01:41

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 475237)
Yeah if this NONCE succeeds in killing himself, maybe it will free a place up for another NONCE to be sent down, instead of them being let back into the community because there are no more jail spaces :mad:

They should do like the Yanks and send the Nonces to major high security prisons, where they are not getting out till they are old men. That way th inmates would take care of them, if you 'ken' what I mean, and no butter on the bread.:Banane43:

BERNADETTE 02-10-2007 01:58

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 476642)
didnt he go to the wardens himself sayin he'd had an overdose?

but in a way i'm glad he's trying to do this and failing. this is suffering

the fact he wants to end his life just shows how much he is suffering and its good. keep on trying and keep on failing. 60 yrs of attempted suicides isnt enough.

If he really wanted to be dead he would be, all he is doing is making life harder for Holly and Jessica's parents. Once the spotlight is off him for any length of time he makes an attempt on his own life to get the attention again.:mad::mad::mad:

grego 02-10-2007 10:07

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I think it should stop making the news, this guy could even get a kick out of being splashed all over the news again.

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2007 10:13

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While he keeps making attempts it will be on the box. I bet a large part of the general public enjoy hearing of the suffering he is going through. If it was down to all suicide attempts being on the news it would be boring. Reminds me of the hunger strikers being on the news in the 80's and more recently Ian Brady on his so called hunger strike. When the loathed try and top them selves it is news worthy because we love to hear about it.

grego 02-10-2007 10:17

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Ian Brady's been on hunger strike for 7 years he must be having liquid nutrition or something not sure.

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2007 10:21

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 476708)
Ian Brady's been on hunger strike for 7 years he must be having liquid nutrition or something not sure.

If he is then he cant really want to die as he would have found a way not to be given any kind of nutrition. They cant force you to eat or drink but if he is mentally unfit then I suppose they could.

grego 02-10-2007 10:24

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He's in Ashworth, so is supposed to be mentally unfit, load of rubbish if you ask me, should've been put in normal prison.

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2007 10:29

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 476713)
He's in Ashworth, so is supposed to be mentally unfit, load of rubbish if you ask me, should've been put in normal prison.

He wouldnt last in a normal prison. Some of the cons might succeed in puting him out of his misery. Mind you if he and Huntley passed on then it would save tax payers a few bob.

alan7554 02-10-2007 10:49

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at least with fred west and harold shipman,had the guts to do the decent thing and not waste taxpayers money keeping them for 25+years, huntley is a spineless piece of ****e who deserves to be done in,and if he was in a normal prison it would,nt take long, peter sutcliffe has been blinded in one eye and lost the other through prison retribution and also has a 6" scar on his face were he got done with a modelling knife, in prison justice is swift and very effective,faking mental illness is a cowards way to buck the system,its a pity that they dont declare him insane then they could send him to RAMPTON which has the highest suicide rate in any of britains prisons, but here,s hoping

flashy 02-10-2007 11:01

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this made me laugh

HMP Wakefield is a high-security prison for men typically in security categories A and B. It is one of eight high security prisons within the prison estate.



HMP Wakefield was originally built as a house of correction in 1594. Its long and illustrious history has been documented in a superb publication called ‘Round the Mulberry Bush' written by a previous governor.



The current prison was designated a ‘dispersal' prison in 1966 (the longest of the remaining original group). It is now a main lifer centre with the focus on serious sex offenders. The average prison roll is approximately 700 including a maximum of 100 Category A and 10 High Risk Category A prisoners.



Wakefield houses a Close Supervision Centre (CSC). The unit is a small therapeutic centre aiming to provide a supportive, safe, structured and consistent environment for some of the Prison Services' most challenging prisoners.




has anyone ever been past Wakefield prison? i have, its actually in the center of Wakefield with many many houses around it, convicts have escaped from prison before today, can you imagine if he escaped? i dont agree with prisons being built in areas which are surrounded by houses, they should be built in deserted areas away from the 'normal' world

grannyclaret 02-10-2007 11:19

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 475660)
I can agree Bernadette it must be painful for the parents to keep having to see thier girls killer on the news but this man commit a most dreadful crime so why should he be allowed to take the easy way out .. he made 2 young beautiful innocents suffer before he took thier lives and left two families to suffer for the rest of thiers ..
What i dont understand ( and i may have missed this on the news ) is how and why did he have access to enough pills to overdose on anyway?

.................................................. .......................................
CHILD killer Ian Huntley revealed the truth about his crimes on a secret tape he made before his failed suicide bid, sources said today.
The tape is expected to reveal the gruesome details of his murders of 10-year-old schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 in Soham in Cambridgeshire.
It is believed to have been found during an investigation at Wakefield high security prison in West Yorkshire, where Huntley was found unconscious in his cell at 1.19am on Tuesday following a suspected overdose.
Huntley, 32, is understood to have swapped the tape for anti-depressant pills from a fellow prisoner which he used to try to end his life.
Huntley could have been dead by the time the existence of the tape came to light, but the actions of an alert security guard ,,,,,

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2007 11:25

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Chrikey imagine the cost of house insurance if next to a prison like Wakefield. :eek: The prison is a good excuse not to move to the town.

"HMP Wakefield was originally built as a house of correction in 1594. Its long and illustrious history has been documented in a superb publication called ‘Round the Mulberry Bush' written by a previous governor."

Always thought that was a nursery rhyme. :confused:

"Wakefield houses a Close Supervision Centre (CSC). The unit is a small therapeutic centre aiming to provide a supportive, safe, structured and consistent environment for some of the Prison Services' most challenging prisoners."

Is this not a fancy way of saying they have a baby sitting service? Thing is what are the most challenging prisoners?

flashy 02-10-2007 11:27

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well they obviously built houses around the prison, are people mad for buying them?

grannyclaret 02-10-2007 11:31

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Jane Macdonald On Loose Women Is Always Saying How Wonderful Wakefield Is,,,,erm I Am Not So Sure

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2007 11:33

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 476738)
well they obviously built houses around the prison, are people mad for buying them?

Would depend on how safe the prison actually is. Suppose it is the same as with building houses around footy stadiums is the purchase worth the noise. Then again they may be cheaper because of there location.

grannyclaret 02-10-2007 11:35

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What Ever Happened To That Woman ,,maxine Carr,she Gave Me The Creeps With Her Twisted Mouth...

panther 02-10-2007 11:42

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 476744)
What Ever Happened To That Woman ,,maxine Carr,she Gave Me The Creeps With Her Twisted Mouth...

she was granted an indefinite order protecting her new identity......she had surgery or summat?

grannyclaret 02-10-2007 11:46

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OOOH GORD :idunno::end:

Lilly 02-10-2007 15:47

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 476749)
she was granted an indefinite order protecting her new identity......she had surgery or summat?

The newspapers know where she is and what her new name is but they are prevented from printing any of these details or indeed any details about her which could lead to her being identified.

BERNADETTE 02-10-2007 15:55

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 476734)
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CHILD killer Ian Huntley revealed the truth about his crimes on a secret tape he made before his failed suicide bid, sources said today.
The tape is expected to reveal the gruesome details of his murders of 10-year-old schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 in Soham in Cambridgeshire.
It is believed to have been found during an investigation at Wakefield high security prison in West Yorkshire, where Huntley was found unconscious in his cell at 1.19am on Tuesday following a suspected overdose.
Huntley, 32, is understood to have swapped the tape for anti-depressant pills from a fellow prisoner which he used to try to end his life.
Huntley could have been dead by the time the existence of the tape came to light, but the actions of an alert security guard ,,,,,

Let's hope it isn't made public!!

grannyclaret 02-10-2007 18:56

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He Might Want His Tape Back Now That He Isnt Dead,,,:(

grego 02-10-2007 19:43

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Even though Maxine Carr has been given a new identity, surely she'd be recognisable.

Lilly 02-10-2007 21:07

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 477142)
Even though Maxine Carr has been given a new identity, surely she'd be recognisable.

This is the trouble with these lifelong anonymity orders. She probably will have altered her appearance but the picture of her in the public's mind is still the one we saw splashed all over the newspapers during the trial.

Therefore innocent people have been mistaken for her and they have been threatened and attacked.


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