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“Information about all landline and mobile phone calls made in the UK MUST be logged and stored for a year under new laws. Data about calls made and received will also be available to 652 public bodies, including the police and councils. The Home Office said the content of the calls and text would not be read and insisted the move was vital to tackle serious crime and terrorism. But critics said it was another example of Britain’s “surveillance society”.” Someone please remind me again that we are not sleepwalking, nay galloping, towards becoming a Police State. Because it sure looks like it to me.:mad: |
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What the hell are the playing at doing this? The cower at human rights when thrust at them yet sneak in something under I no doubt is anti terror laws!! Ok might eventually lead to convictions but only because it holds all and sundry. is this to save the hassle of asking for official sanction of line tapping?
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Another media hyped story. Phone companies have always kept records, all they have done now is put a legal time limit on it.
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Well I didn’t vote them in. Not that the other lot would be any different.
Using the same tactic of fighting serious crime and terrorism as an excuse the government wanted photo ID cards for everyone, then sought DNA samples from everyone and now this. Big Brother is coming and no one is doing anything about it. |
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“The Home Office said the content of the calls and text would not be read and insisted the move was vital to tackle serious crime and terrorism.” Meaning that they could be read if the desire was there. |
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I am not saying that it can't be done but I find it very hard to fathom the amount of space needed to hold 12 months of all telephone calls made to and from all landlines and mobiles in the UK.
Basic data of to whom and when yes I can accept, the actual calls, very hard to comprehend. Texts maybe. The 652 bodies will be the local authorities, different police forces and the equivalent govt. agencies. As Lancsdave said I believe this is hyped to stir up the libertarians. As no calls have been used in court as evidence, apart from ones where a warrant has been issued to put a wire on, to me this ads further evidence that this is a scaremongering story. |
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well if they read some of the filthy jokes i send by text, should either amuse or disgust some of em.:D
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Would be pointless storing my heavy breathing too :) |
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Take a wav file of a record at around 35MB - that can get compressed down as an MP3 file of about 3MB max. Text files are even easier to compress with even better ratios. A telephone call is analogue sound just like a record. A text message is just like a saved file in a word processor. It is only a matter of time before this stored ‘evidence’ will be accepted in a court of law without a warrant being issued. The government hasn’t just put a legal time limit on it lancsdave, they are legitimising what is already happening before there is a leak or someone blows the whistle. |
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Well you carry on living in your own blinkered little world and choose to believe what you want to believe. But come the day when you will have to seek permission from some official when you want to fart, hopefully you will remember that it all started with ‘it is to help prevent serious crime and terrorism’ and ‘I have nothing to hide’.
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I am not blinkered but wary. If it all comes to pass it will affect my daughter and here kids more than me. If it gets too bad I could always ****** of to some far away Island and live in tranquility. As I cannot I am stuck with what is dealt here. Well that and the fact I cant afford to ****** off at the moment. There are places worse than here so it is good but it does seem to be heading the way of these countries.
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Amnything that helps prevent terrorism give it a go!!!
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They have been accessing ohone call's round the world for years, all the major powers have monitoring stations, we have Cheltnham. So now they've found a way into the 'mobile system'. I think they call it progress jambutty:D give me the good old days, no phones no telly and NO BIG BROTHER.
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Anyone who wants to listen in on me waffling on the phone is quite welcome to do so. I have nothing to fear because I have nothing to hide. It's the same with CCTV. I don't mind them filming what I do in town because those CCTVs can also catch criminals. For all the boring footage of me going to M&S, Woollies and Boots there will be a couple of minutes of yobbos mugging a little old lady and if their actions are caught on film and that leads to them being caught then it's worth it.
Likewise if keeping phone conversations or even just records of who called who and when leads to prevention of repeats of the suicide bombings and helps to save people's lives then I have absolutely no objection to anyone listening in on what I have to say. It will bore them to tears but that's their problem not mine. 500GB hard drives? Crikey I am behind the times! We bought a 400GB external drive last year to share at and it still has oodles of space on it. :D |
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I'm with you on this one Willow. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, same with the DNA thing. I have nothing to hide and in the long run if it help catch criminals & terrorists then i'm all for it.
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Four minute warning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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RAF Fylingdales - just testing ;)
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(big text due to JB not being able to read what it says) And anyhow if you have nothing to hide then whats your problem. Are you a terrorist? A bore bomb now thats a new one. |
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The place that I am talking about is Menwith Hill 8 miles west of Harrogate. Jeeves (or Ask as it is known now) is so helpful at times. Try hanging round the perimeter fence with a camera. Like as not you’ll be visited by two very large snowdrops in a Land Rover suggesting that you move on. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill |
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The Russians are coming - again! :D
They are more likely to cut of all natural gas supplies from their territory and freeze us into submission |
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Oh! It’s only Aleks with his verbal diarrhoea.:tongueout |
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Ok then JB you think they will be read dont you? Prove it.
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But then neither can you prove that they won’t be read and you know that too. So that was rather a daft challenge. The past record of the Home Office has been such that I wouldn’t trust them not to read and listen. |
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But if you aren't saying or doing anything wrong why worry that someone can hear what you say or do?
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exactly i walk round town and i dont even bother that i'm being followed around by several hundred camera's, infact i never give them a second thought |
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Why was it deaft? Im not going on about how they wont read them, its you who is boring me with your usual rubbish about how bad the government is.
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Perhaps if the real culprits had been videoed then the innocent would not have been wrongfully convicted. |
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Makes me laugh that someone is actually concerned about what happens to old light bulbs.
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It might even work in your favour as alibi if you're being accused of something?
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Why not just send all the old bulbs to Uncle Fester Adams. ;)
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Have we got our threads crossed again? :confused:
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Was in response to this Willow from Alexs :D
Makes me laugh that someone is actually concerned about what happens to old light bulbs. |
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I was just wondering why the light bulbs had wandered into this thread. :D
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I thought big brother was already here after all they can pinpoint your precise movements via satalite and phones already. I think they already store all the infomation on phones, this is just the first step to the government being able to watch our every move and to make it legal in order to beable to use it in a court of law.
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