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The government is proposing that consumers switch to UHT milk as part of a strategy to ensure that 90 per cent of milk on sale will not require refrigeration by 2020, thus reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

Yet another CRACKPOT suggestion from this illustrious (not) government where no one seems to have thought things through.

I doubt if there is one single household in the UK that has a fridge solely for keeping the milk cold and fresh. So banging a few bottles in the fridge when it gets delivered or brought home isn’t going to make the fridge work any harder, consume more electricity and increase the house’s carbon footprint.

As I understand it once a carton/bottle of UHT milk has been opened you have to keep the rest in the fridge anyway otherwise it will go off.

Has anyone paid attention to the extra processing costs in producing 90% of the milk as UHT milk? Unlikely but why let facts get in the way of a CRACKPOT idea?

I believe that the UK imports 70% of the milk used in the UK, mainly from France. What milk do the French use more than any other? It wouldn’t be UHT by any chance would it? Of course it is!

This CRACKPOT (such a nice word to describe some government initiatives) suggestion is yet another example of the smarmy and sneaky ways the government is trying to integrate the UK with the continent so that when they execute their “coup de grâce” it will be a done deal.

Homogenized milk is bad enough but UHT is an abomination.

Leave real milk alone.

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What they want won't make one jot of difference I will carry on buying the milk that we like!!!

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I have no argument in trying to reduce greenhouse gases per se but any UK effort will only make a gnat’s wing of a difference in the global arena.

So I will continue to support my local milk lady who delivers real milk to my door and keep it in the fridge. Even if it is a long way from what used to be real milk with a good three inches of cream at the top instead of the miserable one inch we get these days.

It might cost me 45p per pint but it is worth every single penny.

Long live real milk!

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How many times a day do people open the fridge to get out the milk for a brew, then open it again to put it back? Every time you open the door the fridge loses cold/gains heat which ever way you want to see it. So by keeping milk in the fridge your fridge is using for electricity.

Not a problem for me, I drink black coffee.

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Do you mean that the fridge sucks in the warm from the kitchen or the kitchen sucks out the cold from the fridge? Or does the warm air push its way from the kitchen into the fridge or the cold air pushes its way out of the fridge into the kitchen?:confused:

I open my fridge door to get the milk out and put it back 6 times in a day each way. I don’t leave the fridge door open while I use the milk so the door is open for less than five seconds each time. Now that should make a huge difference to my electricity bill – not!:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

You can’t say that about your coffee. :nono8:What will the race relations people think?:idunno:

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I have used UHT milk for many years and have no complaints about it.
I pay £3.35 per 6 litres (28p a pint). I buy it in bulk every 2 or 3 weeks, store it in a cupboard until I need to open it, then in fridge during use.
Buying milk with grocery deliveries is ideal for me.
I can see that is almost half the price of having it delivered fresh, and since I use 6 litres a week, the price is a not inconsiderable saving.

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I just presumed they meant that UHT milk doesn't need refrigeration up until it's opened, unlike 'fresh' milk.

UHT milk is stored on shelves in the shops, unlike fresh milk, which has to be kept cold. Also when UHT is stored at warehouses it would not need to be kept in a refrigerator.

I have UHT milk, and although it lasts for a long time, once opened it does need to go in the fridge, because it does have a small amount of fat.

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I keep my eggs in the fridge, so presumably these will be replaced with powdered egg, yum yum!:p

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In post war food rationing time, powdered egg formed part of the ration - people kept hens in backyards in order to get fresh eggs.

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That is also exactly as I understood it. Thus it does reduce greenhouse gas if you use UHT milk.

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Hey, what you doing wasting time on here? get studying, I need you to qualify and keep me and the rest of the baby boomer's in our dotage!

(Typical Conservative, thinks he can sneak off whenever he wants).

:D

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i've bought UHT milk for years

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Could be worse, they could force us to drink sterilized milk :s_pfff:

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used to love rice pud made with sterilzed milk and you got a penny when you took the bottle back....

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Please it was bad enough having it when we were kids, YUCK:p

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I save loads of money buying uht milk, i buy it in asda 12 litres £6 and i know i dont have to worry about it cuz they take a long time to go off, i do prefer fresh milk but i think uht from asda is quite nice.

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We don't get fresh milk here. Some of the supermarkets decided to give it a go, to keep the English happy but, as they stored it in the same way as UHT, it was sour way before it got to the fridge.

Sterry and those little bottles that we used to have to force down at playtime, put me off milk for life. I used to have a cousin who could drink the stuff out of the bottle......he is no longer with us and no wonder!

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i buy uht too from asda, store in my cupboard then when opened in the fridge much easier,

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I had just got back from giving a presentation on "Are liberals correct to believe humans have rights independently of the state? If such rights do exist, what are they and on what basis are they justified?"

I deserve the break! :p

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Who can remember the days when the role of Accington's favourite supplier of emulsified fats was something different than it is now? In fact, way before the ASDA on Hyndburn Road, the firm was up behind Melbourne Street in it's original core business - that of a dairy. ASDA is in fact, short for Associated Dairies. And the ASDA dairy was not the only one in the town - there was the Co-Op dairy up Ossy. There may even have been more.

The problem is that successive Tory and Labour governments have kow-towed to our common market chums, who, with massive subsidies have gained access to the UK liquid milk market; the old Milk Marketing Board has long been abolished and prices are now determined by the Supercrapmarkets. Milk is now shipped and trucked in from abroad and all around the country and it is that which is the cause of the carbon footprint - it certainly has nowt to do with fridges.

For once, Jambutty is right when it comes to crackpots.

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UHT means Ultra Heat Treated so they save on refrigeration and spend more on treating the milk. Now I wonder how much energy it takes to heat milk at room temperature to 145 degrees C as opposed to cooling milk from room temperature to a few degrees above 0 C?

See http://www.dairyconsultant.co.uk/pages/UHT_Process.htm or http://www.howstuffworks.com/question147.htm

The instead of local milk going to local dairies it will have to go to UHT centres and there a precious few of them. Of course there are plenty in France. So there will be additional transportation costs there and back.

So where is the reduction in greenhouse gasses?

This is yet another example of the government interfering in our daily lives and putting yet another precedent nail in the citizen control coffin. Once they have enough nails embedded it will come to tranquillisers in the water to keep the mob quiet.

In years to come we, well you actually because I won’t be around then, will be wandering around in a mental fug doing exactly as the government of the day dictates from waking up to going to sleep. They might even find a way of controlling what you dream about.

Far fetched? Possibly! But big oaks from little acorns grow.

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I control what spug dreams about - would like the government to try and change that!!! lol:D

I'll stick with my milkman delivering it 3 days a week. Its easier!!! :D

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What happened to Daisy Dairies,,,,,,?

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It's a housing estate now GC has been for a few years;)

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Demolished - housing estate with industrial units behind it.

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Oh i remember there was a collection point behind the Borough pub in Burnley...I diddent know the main plant had gone..