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andrewb 20-10-2007 09:06

Tesco Poll (With Poll this time!)
 
So theres the new Tesco either being built or in the process of getting permission, im not too sure as I don't keep up with much things when im in Hull.

Do you, with all the implications in mind (Such as it could make the market and shops in town deteriorate even further in my opinion), want them to build another monopoly supermarket right in the heart of our town?

Theres also the factor of choice. If tesco make other shops close down because they have the most "popular" items in a range, then you end up not having choice, you have to have what they sell, which is limited as there is limited shelf space. For example go to Asda and you'll be hard pushed to buy the book you want if its not in the top selling list. Im sure you can think of many examples of such.

Now im not trying to bias the Poll, theres been many counter arguements such as convenience etc and im sure people will post them here.

Personally, I think it will be a disaster to our town. 450 jobs maybe, but how many will we lose in the process.

MargaretR 20-10-2007 09:28

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Why isn't there an option to say --'indifferent' /'not bothered either way'?

garinda 20-10-2007 09:28

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It will be the last nail in the coffin for many town centre retailers, therefore I've voted against.

Mick 20-10-2007 09:34

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 483164)
Why isn't there an option to say --'indifferent' /'not bothered either way'?

There you go Margaret just for you :)

MargaretR 20-10-2007 09:58

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 483167)
There you go Margaret just for you :)

Thank you:)

grannyclaret 20-10-2007 10:38

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I voted indiferant,, because i dont live there,, but Tesco,s in Cleveleys is nowhere near as good as it used to be ,before the big one in Blackpool was opened,, They dont do large size articles anymore,and the small sizes cost almost as much, they just assume that everyone has access to their own transport and can get up there for a big shop ,which is not always the case....

MargaretR 20-10-2007 10:47

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I voted 'indifferent' because I shop on line for everything- so I wont be visiting that store OR strolling round the market

grannyclaret 20-10-2007 11:00

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 483183)
I voted 'indifferent' because I shop on line for everything- so I wont be visiting that store OR strolling round the market

No answer to that:rolleyz8::rofl38:

WillowTheWhisp 20-10-2007 14:46

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Tesco is not flavour of the month with me anyway since May.

MargaretR 20-10-2007 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 483258)
Tesco is not flavour of the month with me anyway since May.

What happened in May?

panther 20-10-2007 18:37

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I voted against!!!

tesco is rubbish, dosent have half the stuff i need, should be sainsburys or morrisons!!! anything actually BUT NOT TESCO!!!

Bonnyboy 20-10-2007 21:13

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Tesco's is off my list too, shan't go there, the amount of stuff that my sister has had to take back to the Haslingden one for being past the sell by date is rediculous

Bonnyboy 20-10-2007 21:17

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Having said that, I did vote in favour, reason being that this town could do with the job's....might help out the local economy

glasgow guy 21-10-2007 08:57

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 483378)
Having said that, I did vote in favour, reason being that this town could do with the job's....might help out the local economy

my sentiments exactly...that could be 450 familys getting a boost of a needy income...and I voted in favour even though they put me out of a job when they moved to haslingden...

lancsdave 21-10-2007 09:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 483377)
Tesco's is off my list too, shan't go there, the amount of stuff that my sister has had to take back to the Haslingden one for being past the sell by date is rediculous

Why ?? If it's a regular thing then a) why go back time and time again and b) why not check the sell by dates as you buy it. If I see something out of date I make sure somebody gets told at the store.

garinda 21-10-2007 09:13

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Most of the 450 jobs will be part time, and pay the minimum wage, and thus not many families would be supported by that money.

There would be the same number of jobs created if it was built in an out of town location, and many jobs would also be saved in Accrington, in the businesses that will be affected by Tescos being built at the proposed location.

Bagpuss 21-10-2007 09:23

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 483488)
Most of the 450 jobs will be part time, and pay the minimum wage, and thus not many families would be supported by that money.

And we all know that locals will not get the jobs, its another excuse to bring a few more Eastern Europeans over and bleed the local services dry.:mad:

onlyme 21-10-2007 09:42

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anything has got to be better than the currect appearance with a couple of caravans, loads of rubbish and a few dogs that roam. I for one would actually start shopping in accy again instead of blackburn, it would help local economy and 450 part time jobs has got to be better than none.

If it was an out of town site, there would go more green land, and bigger excuse to go out of town. The market tends to aim for a different custom base anyway, and i know as far as my lazy ass is concerned, i might actually be tempted to park at the tesco and have a wonder into town again, instead of facing the nightmar trawl of either parking behing B&M or braving the arndale.

Besides I doubt it will be built, after all, its not a pound shop and accy seems to welcome all of them with open arms :-":rolleyes:

onlyme 21-10-2007 09:43

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i meant 'wander' of course lol

katex 21-10-2007 10:15

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As mentioned before, depends whether they give you a time restriction on your parking on their car park .. some supermarkets do charge town shoppers for long stay.

I think most people once they have been in the store will load up, think about it and say "Oh, let's just go home" .. particularly if the weather is warm and freezer goods in the boot of your car.

I feel like Panther, they are not quite as good as the others at the moment. I did actually go to the one in Blackburn yesterday because it was convenient on my way out, however, didn't find as good a choice (on the items I wanted) as the others. I don't think their food goods are of the same quality either. AND, they had run out of my brand of fags .:( had to call at the Co-op in Clayton.

lancsdave 21-10-2007 10:17

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I haven't seen the plans but are they building a petrol station with it ?

This will affect my vote as Clubcard points are the better option of all the garage reward offers :D

onlyme 21-10-2007 11:11

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Havent heard of a tesco yet that gives a maximum time- theyd better not start either cos with my lack of decisiveness, takes me ages to do a simple shop lol.

Think any new investment into Hyndburn and Accrington in particular has to be a good thing- stops us being forgotten lol

Ya never know, the council might actually start looking at the houses at the bottom of Belfield rd and wonder why theyre boarded up with bars on and do summat about it lol??

katex 21-10-2007 17:34

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Do we know whether this is going to be a Tesco Extra ? If so, the range of all types of retail goods is huge .. practically will sell anything you can/can't buy in the town centre.

It will have to sit well with URBED's consultations on the town centre masterplan too, or will defeat the object

glasgow guy 21-10-2007 17:51

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[quote=garinda;483488]Most of the 450 jobs will be part time, and pay the minimum wage, and thus not many families would be supported by that money.
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most of them wont be part time and quite a few wont pay the minimum wage - (ie full time staff and management) I know this for a fact as I was offered a job with tesco at one point along with many other folk I worked with when they took over the haslingden site - I spent 3 days with their folk from tesco head office regarding my position where I was shown the employee/staff ladder and layout for haslingden...and the part time staff there were only a small percentage and the salary they offered me was not minimum wage - and I know the guys I worked with who work there just now and at burnley are not on minimum wage..

garinda 21-10-2007 17:57

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy (Post 483593)
most of them wont be part time and quite a few wont pay the minimum wage - (ie full time staff and management) I know this for a fact as I was offered a job with tesco at one point along with many other folk I worked with when they took over the haslingden site - I spent 3 days with their folk from tesco head office regarding my position where I was shown the employee/staff ladder and layout for haslingden...and the part time staff there were only a small percentage and the salary they offered me was not minimum wage - and I know the guys I worked with who work there just now and at burnley are not on minimum wage..

450, mainly full time staff?

Well I believe you, you seem to know.

The only time I've been there, I've seen about thirty people working there, tops.

Perhaps all the rest are filling sacks of money to send to Tesco heiress, and disgraced Tory politican, Dame Shirley Porter in Israel.;)

glasgow guy 21-10-2007 18:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 483596)
450, mainly full time staff?

Well I believe you, you seem to know.

The only time I've been there, I've seen about thirty people working there, tops.

Perhaps all the rest are filling sacks of money to send to Tesco heiress, and disgraced Tory politican, Dame Shirley Porter in Israel.;)

didnt say mainly full time...I said a small percentage which were made up of night time shelf fillers and some checkout staff...
and I refused their job offer cos my pride got the better of me - cos I had just been made redundant due to them buying the haslingden site..:cool:

Neil 21-10-2007 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 483377)
Tesco's is off my list too, shan't go there, the amount of stuff that my sister has had to take back to the Haslingden one for being past the sell by date is rediculous

She must be a bit dolly then. I check the dates on most things I buy. I thought everyone did.

katex 21-10-2007 18:25

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 483610)
She must be a bit dolly then. I check the dates on most things I buy. I thought everyone did.

Whoops must now be a member of the dolly crowd .. I never do, trust the Supermarket to keep up-to-date and besides, usually forget to take me reading glasses with me, and can't be asking every young person to read it for me.. :D

BERNADETTE 21-10-2007 18:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 483610)
She must be a bit dolly then. I check the dates on most things I buy. I thought everyone did.

So do I if you are buying for a week it makes sense to check the display/use date;)

Bonnyboy 21-10-2007 19:50

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 483610)
She must be a bit dolly then. I check the dates on most things I buy. I thought everyone did.

Must admit, I never check the sell by date on anything. Is it actually legal to have stuff on the shelves that are out of date. I know there is a sell by and use by date but in the eyes of the law is this just a guideline...Perhaps someone will know :confused:

BERNADETTE 22-10-2007 21:25

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, onlymeanything has got to be better than the currect appearance
with a couple of caravans, loads of rubbish and a few dogs that roam.
There are at least five caravans there now, so the sooner they start building the better.

Ber999T 23-10-2007 01:27

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not to bothered as will not be using it

andrewb 23-10-2007 09:02

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 483985)
There are at least five caravans there now, so the sooner they start building the better.


Surely something could be done about the caravans without building a Tesco? :confused:

BERNADETTE 23-10-2007 09:44

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 484077)
Surely something could be done about the caravans without building a Tesco? :confused:

The council don't seem to be doing anything about the caravans. They have been moved on numerous times. I for one would feel safer in my home if they could never get back on the land again!!! If that means building a Tesco store so be it.

Yolanda25 23-10-2007 09:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 483377)
Tesco's is off my list too, shan't go there, the amount of stuff that my sister has had to take back to the Haslingden one for being past the sell by date is rediculous


Well then tell u sister to check the sell by date, its common sense, i never buy nothing without checking the dates:D:D

yerself 23-10-2007 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
She must be a bit dolly then. I check the dates on most things I buy. I thought everyone did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolanda25
Well then tell u sister to check the sell by date, its common sense, i never buy nothing without checking the dates

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave
b) why not check the sell by dates as you buy it.

How do you three know Bonnyboy's sister can read?

thomas.lee 24-10-2007 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 483596)
450, mainly full time staff?

Well I believe you, you seem to know.

The only time I've been there, I've seen about thirty people working there, tops.

Perhaps all the rest are filling sacks of money to send to Tesco heiress, and disgraced Tory politican, Dame Shirley Porter in Israel.;)

Yeah, I do believe Tesco and other supermarkets pay above the minimum wage, one thing that attracted me to once working for Asda.

But, I wouldnt like to see Tesco arrive in the town, it would be a shame for Asda to lose custom.

kathleen_firth 04-11-2007 16:04

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i doesnt really affect me in any way really what harm is it doing being buit

kathleen_firth 04-11-2007 16:05

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more jobs for us all as well thats always a plus ++++++

The Green Lantern 04-11-2007 16:10

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I will not be shopping at tesco and never will again....terrible customer service

MITZY 04-11-2007 16:44

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There you are Bonnyboy the difference between sell by and use by dates.

Is a shop allowed to sell food that has passed its 'sell by' date?

'Sell by' dates, like 'Display until' dates, are used by some shops to help staff know when they need to take food products off the shelves. It is up to the manufacturer or shop if it wants to put a 'Sell by' or 'Display until' date on packaged foods. But they must also have either a 'Use by' or 'Best before' date.

Since the 'Sell by' date is just a guide to shop staff, it isn't against the law to sell a food after it. However, shops mustn't sell foods that have passed their 'Use by' date. And you shouldn't eat foods after their 'Use by' date because they might not be safe to eat. 'Use by' dates are used on foods that go off quickly, such as milk, soft cheese, ready-prepared meals and smoked fish.

You will see 'Best before' dates on foods that last longer, such as frozen, dried or tinned foods. Shops are allowed to sell foods after their 'Best before' date (except eggs) and they will probably still be safe to eat.

But if you buy foods after their 'Best before' date, bear in mind that they might not be as good to eat as they were before. They might have started to lose their flavour or texture. The one food you shouldn't eat after its 'Best before' date is eggs. This is because eggs can contain salmonella bacteria, which could start to multiply after this date.

cashman 11-11-2007 22:59

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will suit me fine if it has a garage,save me driving to blackburn or burnley everyweek, n we only live 2 mins from asda, which we only use for bits n bats, dont like the store n carparks even worse.:rolleyes:

iasoba 30-01-2008 16:18

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Anyone remember the film RoboCop?

How we laughed in the late 80's about a company controlling everything.

But look at now, I don't think there's anything you can't buy from Tesco (apart from specialist items and, let's be honest, they have to be bought on the internet now), even mortgages, insurance, mobile phone plans, yadda yadda.

Accrington already has : Asda, Aldi, Lidl, Netto and that place that used to be KwikSave.

Pretty soon, there will be only supermarkets and large chain retailers for anything else.

When we lose the freedom of choice, you watch the prices rise when there are no alternatives. Yes, there could be a supermarket "price war", I don't mind them selling groceries, but they want to sell EVERYTHING. And most of their "non core" offerings (Electricals etc) are not good quality, but simply cheap.

There's no way to stop it, but I remember when it used to be a joy to shop in Accrington, I think the only shop left that is independant and has class is Marsdens on Abbey Street.

Another Tesco, to match the 2 in haslingden and 1 in Blackburn. What's the big deal?
It'll happen if Tesco wants it to, as they have the money and muscle.

But I've started shopping in the market for meat and veg. The produce is better and cheaper, but put another Supermarket in the equation...

I suppose this rant isn't against Tesco in general, more the lack of choice we now have without going on the internet, where every town has the same shops with the same things.

I don't know why the government hasn't opened supermarkets where everyone gets minimum wage and everything is run at cost (plus Vat, we can't get away from that). The money will be in our pockets instead of the supermarkets.

Convenience has a lot to answer for :-)

park381 30-01-2008 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iasoba (Post 524270)
When we lose the freedom of choice,

I don't think you will lose that, you either shop there or you don't. Is that not freedom of choice.

What else would that site (old skill centre) be used for.

The Blackburn Tesco is getting past it's sell by date, so if the Accington Tesco gets built, the Tesco shoppers from Blackburn may visit the modern energy efficient Accrington Tesco, and who knows they may just walk down in to the town centre and spend a few bob there as well. :)

Roy 30-01-2008 17:46

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 524291)
I don't think you will lose that, you either shop there or you don't. Is that not freedom of choice.

What else would that site (old skill centre) be used for.

The Blackburn Tesco is getting past it's sell by date, so if the Accington Tesco gets built, the Tesco shoppers from Blackburn may visit the modern energy efficient Accrington Tesco, and who knows they may just walk down in to the town centre and spend a few bob there as well. :)

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What else would that site (old skill centre) be used for.
Perhaps for developing skills? Maybe for training people to do things other than be a cashier?

No offence to people that work at asda or in a store, but it aint exactly going to bring in the money.
If Accrington wants to do well, it needs to have better paid jobs as well as lower paid jobs. If everyone is paid low then the shops can only serve low paid people. This means the quality is not going to be good.

Training and education needs to be invested in, not bringing supermarkets into an already crowded market, to kill off the few sole traders we have. No matter how many jobs it brings in, its a waste, and can only mean the further demise of Accrington.

park381 30-01-2008 18:26

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Originally Posted by Roy (Post 524303)
Perhaps for developing skills? Maybe for training people to do things other than be a cashier?

Accrington College once occupied the site after it closed as a skill centre, so did HBC, but now they have both got their own buildings so the "skill centre" is empty and in need of re-development. Bet Asda are kicking themselves hemmed in on Hyndburn road and no room to do anything.

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No offence to people that work at asda or in a store, but it aint exactly going to bring in the money.
If Accrington wants to do well, it needs to have better paid jobs as well as lower paid jobs. If everyone is paid low then the shops can only serve low paid people. This means the quality is not going to be good.
The evening papers are full of jobs, some well paid some not so well paid.



Quote:

Training and education needs to be invested in, not bringing supermarkets into an already crowded market, to kill off the few sole traders we have. No matter how many jobs it brings in, its a waste, and can only mean the further demise of Accrington.
Accrington & Rossendale College have invested heavily in education and training in Accrington, they have rebuilt the Sandy Lane site and offer all sorts of courses, but at the end of the day a person has got to want to better him/herself don't you think?

Roy 30-01-2008 18:38

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 524343)
but at the end of the day a person has got to want to better him/herself don't you think?

Yes, and that, right there is a big problem! However, that is not really the problem under discussion here.
Encourage low paying companies to thrive in your town and you end up with low paid people and that in turn means less money to be spent at any other places around town.
Wecome to pound shop heaven.
Welcome to a place that people, once they do earn some money(generally, by working out of town), don't want to live in - so move elsewhere.
Welcome to Accrington!
Welcome to Tesco!

park381 30-01-2008 19:10

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Originally Posted by Roy (Post 524349)
Yes, and that, right there is a big problem! However, that is not really the problem under discussion here.
Encourage low paying companies to thrive in your town and you end up with low paid people and that in turn means less money to be spent at any other places around town.
Wecome to pound shop heaven.
Welcome to a place that people, once they do earn some money(generally, by working out of town), don't want to live in - so move elsewhere.
Welcome to Accrington!
Welcome to Tesco!

The traditional large employers are long gone, some to China and the like.
English Electric was a large employer, look at that site now, a collection of "units" storage etc.Lets face the facts Accrington is no longer a manufacturing base and has not been for many a year.
So why not welcome Tesco or any other major developer that wishes to improve our town centres. at the end of the day it's employment for a lot of Accrington people

Roy 30-01-2008 19:37

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English Electric was a large employer, look at that site now, a collection of "units" storage etc.Lets face the facts Accrington is no longer a manufacturing base and has not been for many a year.
So we should just give up on it! Money can be spent to keep what little industry and commerce is still left in Accrington, in Accrington, and to promote the place for new investment. Retail units are an easy way out right now, but in the future the local economy will not be able to support them all. Do you really think we should rely on supermarkets for our income?

I would much prefer our councils to try to find real genuine businesses, with real genuine prospects than another supermarket that we totally don't need.

Good luck to the children of Accrington, I'm pretty sure the clever ones will be out of here as soon as they are 18, and I'm almost certain they wont ever look back!

park381 30-01-2008 20:46

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Originally Posted by Roy (Post 524389)
So we should just give up on it! Money can be spent to keep what little industry and commerce is still left in Accrington, in Accrington,
I would much prefer our councils to try to find real genuine businesses, with real genuine prospects than another supermarket that we totally don't need.

I am in total agreement with you on that, but our council don't seem to be able to do that do they.
At least if Tesco come it is employment for some.

What about the mill in Gt Harwood, demolished to build houses, a Barnfield/HBC partnership venture.

blazey 31-01-2008 21:21

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Can someone enlighten me as to where the new tesco will be?

Bonnyboy 31-01-2008 21:27

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Basically on or near the train station car park on Eagle Street...If it is approved

blazey 31-01-2008 21:32

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 524979)
Basically on or near the train station car park on Eagle Street...If it is approved

I wish they'd bang a tesco somewhere in Lancaster. You ungrateful accywebbers :p

I approve of Tesco, they sell endangered sea turtles as a delicacy in China, gotta love em for that. Yay for tesco.

park381 01-02-2008 13:30

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Tesco store to open in Nelson

120 Jobs Created By Store (from Lancashire Telegraph)


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