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cherokee 24-10-2007 16:30

what next i wonder???????
 
Just come across this and TBH it makes my blood boil ..:mad:
what ever next ?????



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flashy 24-10-2007 16:45

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yes i heard that on the news earlier and i think its utterly disgusting

BERNADETTE 24-10-2007 16:58

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That is disgusting, the attendant should be given his cards and told not to come back IMO.

Eric 24-10-2007 17:13

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Very disturbing. Many Canadians, perhaps even a majority now, do not support the presence of Canadian troops in Afghanistan. But there is almost unanimous support for the troops. And I don't think this is contradictory. Many local businesses offer discounts to members of the armed forces. Every so often the local rag publishes a list of these outlets. Sounds like it is time for a boycot of BP and all their products.

If you don't choose to stand behing the troops; feel free to stand in front of them.

Bonnyboy 24-10-2007 17:14

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I read that this morning at the barbers. I bet the soldier was seething. No wonder BP made a grovelling appology.

jambutty 24-10-2007 17:19

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 484459)
Just come across this and TBH it makes my blood boil ..:mad:
what ever next ?????



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Who is BP trying to kid? You can’t mistake a Captain in combat fatigues for a squaddie and certainly not a cop.

BP chickened out. He should have been sacked on the spot. I’ll bet that if it were a non Asian petrol station worker and the Captain had been an Asian the story would have been different.

General Sir Richard Dannatt should have no worries about there being a gulf between this civilian and the armed forces. Whilst our armed forces do the task set them by our dictator Blair and now Brown in a responsible manner, which they do, they have my support.

What filled me with disbelief was the report that thugs have been vandalising the homes and cars of service personnel whilst they laid their well being and life on the line for the ungrateful thugs back in the UK.

Just as a small aside - a few days ago it was announced that Brown would be bringing back a few thousand troops from Iraq early next year or was it later this year.

By a strange coincidence it is reported today that America is agitating for more troops for Afghanistan. Brown bringing some troops home is just a coincidence isn’t it?

katex 24-10-2007 18:11

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'Tis a bit strange though, could be some truth in the misunderstanding of uniform/beer bit, after all, if he had been buying petrol would have had no option but to serve him, as filled tank up already.

How were the witnesses so adamant that he refused him on his political views ? No further details here, and never known the Sun to miss an opportunity of a quote from a witness.

Bit biased this report, however, sure if it had been a white attendant, would have served him anyway irrespective of licensing laws, etc., due to the respect this soldier would have received from them.

garinda 24-10-2007 18:16

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 484493)
filled tank up already.

I missed the bit were it said he was driving a tank!:eek:

:D

jambutty 24-10-2007 18:22

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There is another point. I wasn’t aware that a policeman in uniform cannot buy booze. A policeman on duty fair enough, but on the way home????

katex 24-10-2007 18:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 484497)
I missed the bit were it said he was driving a tank!:eek:

:D

I never learn to think before posting do I ? particularly when you are on the lurk ... :D

Hope you all don't think I am in favour of this attendant's behaviour, just two sides to a story, and newspapers always ready to put a spin on a story for good reading.

magpie 24-10-2007 19:01

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family site so I won't comment:

steeljack 24-10-2007 19:56

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What amazes me about the story is that Petrol stations in the UK are allowed to sell alcohol ,
fish bait and ammo sales I can understand but alcohol , what sense does that make :eek: :eek:

Eric 24-10-2007 20:23

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 484569)
What amazes me about the story is that Petrol stations in the UK are allowed to sell alcohol ,
fish bait and ammo sales I can understand but alcohol , what sense does that make :eek: :eek:

About as much sense as drug stores selling cigarettes.:rolleyes:

harwood red 24-10-2007 20:27

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 484588)
About as much sense as drug stores selling cigarettes.:rolleyes:

think it's due to so many petrol stations are like mini markets over here now!!!

cherokee 24-10-2007 21:05

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I dont think i know of a petrol station now that only sells petrol and motoring related stuff.
so many are be taken over by spar tesco etc ..

Personally i think bp are just trying to blag their way out of it,
Katex i see what you mean because reading through the comments posted one said that bp,s training it absolute rubbish and trying to train different cultures dont seem to be on their list of priorities as apparently it was to difficult to get through the language barrier , so they just let it go .

maybe BP should be doing more . but imo there were just too many witnesses to this for me to be swayed into thinking it was a mix up ..

bp are also sending a standard mssg out now to all those that email and complain about it .

BERNADETTE 24-10-2007 21:15

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Sorry if this sounds dumb but how can there be a "language barrier"? If these people are working in retail surely they speak English, so why can't they understand?

cherokee 24-10-2007 21:21

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 484609)
Sorry if this sounds dumb but how can there be a "language barrier"? If these people are working in retail surely they speak English, so why can't they understand?


well i agree with you but this is what bp are trying to put it down too . did the guy behind the counter stop and think to question wether this soldier was allowed to buy alcohol .. nope!!! he just shot him down (pardon the expression) in front of people and huniliated him .

language barrier my backside , it seems to me to be plain racist and he should have been sacked, not sent back on a retraining course that he obviously failed in the first place .

BERNADETTE 24-10-2007 21:26

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My first post said he should have been sacked and I will stand by that.

Bonnyboy 24-10-2007 21:34

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 484618)
well i agree with you but this is what bp are trying to put it down too . did the guy behind the counter stop and think to question wether this soldier was allowed to buy alcohol .. nope!!! he just shot him down (pardon the expression) in front of people and huniliated him .

language barrier my backside , it seems to me to be plain racist and he should have been sacked, not sent back on a retraining course that he obviously failed in the first place .

Seems to me that BP may want to re-evaluate their training course before sending anyone at all on it. Their vetting criteria for taking on new employee's could probably do with a tweek too. Hard work to spot a racist though, which is what I suspect this incident was.

Ber999T 25-10-2007 04:32

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 484502)
There is another point. I wasn’t aware that a policeman in uniform cannot buy booze. A policeman on duty fair enough, but on the way home????

Sorry to say JB but not just police on their way home but

Police Officers; Fire Fighters; Ambulance Staff; Nurses; PCV Drivers (and possibly some more)

if the law fully applied are not be allowed onto LICENSED premissess while in UNIFORM after they have finished their shift (but members of the emergency services can enter in the course of their duties).

As far as I'm aware that is the law not sure how it can be applied to the ARMED FORCES as I have not looked into the Act in full.

Eric 25-10-2007 15:40

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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 484591)
think it's due to so many petrol stations are like mini markets over here now!!!

Same here as well ... of course it is convenient, as most of the gas stations are open 24/7. But no booze. The purchase of booze in Ontario is very tightly controlled ... apart from the bootleggers.

jambutty 25-10-2007 16:58

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Originally Posted by Ber999T (Post 484702)
Sorry to say JB but not just police on their way home but

Police Officers; Fire Fighters; Ambulance Staff; Nurses; PCV Drivers (and possibly some more)

if the law fully applied are not be allowed onto LICENSED premissess while in UNIFORM after they have finished their shift (but members of the emergency services can enter in the course of their duties).

As far as I'm aware that is the law not sure how it can be applied to the ARMED FORCES as I have not looked into the Act in full.

I’m not doubting your word Ber999T but it seems crazy that a uniformed person cannot nip into an off licence on the way home to get a bottle of wine for the evening meal.

That law cannot be applied to the armed forces mainly because new entries in barracks are not allowed to wear civvies when they go outside the barracks for an evening out. Although they could wear civvies on leave. But then that may have changed.

I know that being in uniform, especially a sailor’s uniform, on leave at home was a sure fire way of getting a few free pints and the pick of the girls, unless your home happened to be in or close to Portsmouth, Plymouth or Chatham.

Eric 25-10-2007 17:07

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Just re-read the article ... something I skimmed over on my initial read caught my eye ... the bit about no one showing up to welcome the Grenadier Guards home! I can understand that many are opposed to the troops being in Afghanistan and Iraq, but not to show up when the troops come home! Wouldn't it be more appropriate to take it out on the govt.? Grab hold of your MPs and let them know you are p***ed off at govt. foreign policy. But to snub the returning troops is on a par with what the gas station attendant did. When the Van Doos left their Quebec base for Afghanistan thousands of Quebecers turned out to see them off and wish them luck. And this in a Province where support for Canada's presence in Afghanistan is lower than anywhere else in the country ... barely in the double digits ... and falling all the time.

BERNADETTE 25-10-2007 17:33

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You would have thought their families at least would have been there to greet them.

cherokee 26-10-2007 11:10

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I may be wrong here but im sure gonna check but its my understanding that some barracks will no allow families there for the homecoming, and homecoming greeters are down to the descretion of the unit .
however there could have been many other reasons for this ie the gaurds came home a day or so early /late / etc. .


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