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panther 26-10-2007 14:34

Schoolgirls to receive cancer jabs
 
All girls aged 12 and 13 are to receive vaccinations against cervical cancer.
Schoolgirls in Year 8 will receive the jab in a programme which is expected to cost up to £100 million a year.
There will also be a two-year "catch-up" campaign starting in autumn 2009 for girls aged up to 18, costing up to £200 million a year.
This means girls aged 16 to 18 years (Years 12 and 13) will be offered the vaccine from autumn 2009.
Girls aged 15 to 17 years (Years 11 and 12) will be offered the jab from autumn 2010.
By the end of the catch-up campaign, all girls under the age of 18 should have been offered protection.

looks like my daughter will have to wait till 2009!!
wonder why they are not offering it all together??

anyway im all for it;)

BERNADETTE 26-10-2007 14:39

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What a brilliant idea, anything that reduces the chances of getting cancer can only be classed as a good move IMO.

Lilly 26-10-2007 14:47

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A very good idea in my opinion. The vaccine is aimed at killing the papilloma virus which causes 99% of cervical cancers. This will stop thousands of women developing cervical cancer in later life.

flashy 26-10-2007 17:36

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i'm all for it too, it will be something similar to the rubella injection i think (if you know what i mean)

BERNADETTE 26-10-2007 17:38

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 485161)
i'm all for it too, it will be something similar to the rubella injection i think (if you know what i mean)

It is on the same lines, a great step forward!!!

flashy 26-10-2007 17:49

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its excellent, my nan died of cervical cancer about 20 years ago, so it just shows how much research has improved since then

panther 26-10-2007 17:53

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just wonderingAttachment 10244, will the need for smear tests to be needed for these young girls as they get older?

BERNADETTE 26-10-2007 17:54

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Should think smear tests will still be done.

harwood red 26-10-2007 18:30

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What a fantastic idea :) As having experience of the big CC this has to be a massive step in the right direction of eradicating this.

I'm well chuffed :D

Shame you can't have it when your older too

mallard 26-10-2007 18:34

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yes i think that,s a good idar for them.

Less 26-10-2007 18:50

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 485120)


wonder why they are not offering it all together??

anyway im all for it;)

Perhaps with it being a vaccine, (having, I imagine gone through several years of testing), it will take a while for them to produce enough to go around?

However I too am all for it. :)

Ianto.W. 26-10-2007 19:16

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Anything that can keep this obscene disease at bay should be grabbed with both hands.Billions of pounds are being spent developing new drugs to extend the lives of suffering Cancer patients,if you can stop it before it happens it will save fortunes on treating sufferers. Once Cancer strikes there is no way of stopping it coming back('sometime). I personally started 20 years ago in the Colon, after the 2nd major operation 70% of it was removed.It came back 9 months later in the left Lung, part of that was removed. It is now in my right Lung close to the heart, and now undergoing lousy Chemotherapy treatment.This may have been avoided if I had not refused 'chemo' after my second Colon operation, but I did not feel strong enough. I have had jump through hoops to get now, as I refused it when it had more chance of success. The Oncologist was up against my wife, from then on it was no contest:D. The moral to the tale is refuse nothing that may save or extend your life.
This is not a sympathy seeking letter as I do not need it,purely 'educational' I love a good scrap "SO IT IS STILL NO QUARTER ON ANY SITE I'M ON:D"

jimmi5bellies 26-10-2007 20:21

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Thinks its brill, shame its not for older peeps as well, having just had lazer treatment for the second time ! Deffo coming back as a man next time.

BERNADETTE 26-10-2007 21:21

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Just been on the news, smear tests will still be the norm.

West Ender 26-10-2007 22:27

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I'm all for any vaccination against any disease so this gets my vote.

I heard, a long time ago, that cervical cancer is almost unknown in nuns and Jewish women. We can draw our own conclusions from that, I think.

Lilly 26-10-2007 22:34

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 485269)
I'm all for any vaccination against any disease so this gets my vote.

I heard, a long time ago, that cervical cancer is almost unknown in nuns and Jewish women. We can draw our own conclusions from that, I think.

Do Jewish women not have sex? :confused:

BERNADETTE 26-10-2007 22:53

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WestenderI heard, a long time ago, that cervical cancer is almost unknown in nuns and Jewish women. We can draw our own conclusions from that, I think.
I can understand the nuns but why Jewish women?

Ianto.W. 26-10-2007 23:10

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=Lilly;485270]Do Jewish women not have sex? :confused:
Jewish men are curcumsised this is called Kosher practice, meaning clean, uncircumsised men that do not keepclean in the penis are more likely to harbour germs under the foreskin, thus passing them on to the unfortunate recipient,:cool:

Bonnyboy 26-10-2007 23:18

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Maybe female circumcision plays it's part, I really have no idea. Seems to be a bit of a taboo/dark topic I dont know whether it is a practice that Jewish women undergo. My thoughts are that it's probably an African tradition...I stand to be corrected.

Ianto.W. 26-10-2007 23:38

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, Bonnyboy;485277]Maybe female circumcision plays it's part, I really have no idea. Seems to be a bit of a taboo/dark topic I dont know whether it is a practice that Jewish women undergo. My thoughts are that it's probably an African tradition...I stand to be corrected.
Jewish women are not curcmsised, some Moslem sects do it to stop female enjoyment and keeping them faithfull for bearing children. It is done when the girls reach puberty to lower their Libido. No Jewish woman brought up in a kosher household would have sex with an uncircusised male.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 27-10-2007 08:07

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The virus lurks under the foreskin - jewish men have theirs removed soon after birth.

Lilly 27-10-2007 10:14

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 485276)
Jewish men are curcumsised this is called Kosher practice, meaning clean, uncircumsised men that do not keepclean in the penis are more likely to harbour germs under the foreskin, thus passing them on to the unfortunate recipient,:cool:

Ah right. Thanks Ianto. I understand now.:)

katex 27-10-2007 10:39

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 485276)
Jewish men are curcumsised this is called Kosher practice, meaning clean, uncircumsised men that do not keepclean in the penis are more likely to harbour germs under the foreskin, thus passing them on to the unfortunate recipient,:cool:

Think you may find that this theory has been disproved now Ian and is purely genetic.

Ianto.W. 27-10-2007 13:37

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 485310)
Think you may find that this theory has been disproved now Ian and is purely genetic.

That is the latest theory, but there are uncountable versions of Cancer, and Cervical Cancer can manifest it self in other areas as secondary Cancer. Secondary cancer occurs when the cancer cells break through and get into the Lymph Nodes thus travelling in the blood stream, My present Lung Cancer is a secondary Colon Cancer, not a true Lung cancer(that is why I am still here) they can do very little with the'spider' smokers cancer, don't tell me that is heredity, Colon or Bowel are. Cerviacal Cancer is a sexually transmitted virus this developes into Cancer that can be passed both ways, they are extending the 'jabs' to 17 year old girls.Refuse it at your peril, the alternative is fatal.
Believe me Kate I have researched this subject for years, and subscribe to the University of Medical research Philadelphia USA.on the side effects of treatment chemo, surgery,etc. To say Cancer is genetic yes in a very few cases, But there are so many different ones nobody knows how many, is a misnomer.;)

katex 27-10-2007 13:46

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Believe me Ian, not an expert at all .. just what I read and understand. Am led to believe lots of cancers and are genetic and make you more subsceptible to developing them/or not. That's why some young women are having breasts remove if their relatives have history of such .. how sad. Hope they could find a vaccine for this too soon.

Margaret Pilkington 27-10-2007 14:03

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Cervical cancer is caused by the HPV virus...and it is true that circumcision is one of the ways to prevent the spread of the virus(it does lurk under the foreskin of the uncircumcised male) using condoms also helps to prevent the spread of this virus....having mutiple sexual partners can contribute to the spread of the condition.....however if someone has cervical cancer it does NOT mean you have been promiscuous......but your partner may have picked it up in a previous relationship.

AccyAlec 27-10-2007 14:12

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Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies (Post 485236)
Thinks its brill, shame its not for older peeps as well, having just had lazer treatment for the second time ! Deffo coming back as a man next time.

"...for older peeps..." - :eek: Your not old hehe :p

Yea deffo a good idea. I heard this was going to happen a few weeks back and believe that people of all ages should be able to have it as well!

MargaretR 27-10-2007 14:57

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I had surgery (hysterectomy) at age 32, following a positive smear test.
At the time, the surgeon said that if it had not been found, I would probably not lived much past 40. So every year since I have treated as a bonus.
It has not been tragic for me because I didn't want any more children.
This vaccine will prevent early deaths and a lot of suffering.
Parents should not prevent their daughters from having it.

Ianto.W. 27-10-2007 15:15

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 485476)
I had surgery (hysterectomy) at age 32, following a positive smear test.
At the time, the surgeon said that if it had not been found, I would probably not lived much past 40. So every year since I have treated as a bonus.
It has not been tragic for me because I didn't want any more children.
This vaccine will prevent early deaths and a lot of suffering.
Parents should not prevent their daughters from having it.

well said Margaret, more power to your elbow. Anything that can prevent any form of Cancer occuring is a bonus, you have no life even living with it, no 2 days are the same , you cannot make plans beyond today, my treatment is the 'last throw of the dice' but how long for?

grego 27-10-2007 18:04

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Think this is a good idea, hope it proves successful.

steeljack 27-10-2007 18:14

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bit of info I found on the topic
HPV Vaccines
seems to be quite a bit of discussion on the subject

BERNADETTE 27-10-2007 18:50

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Found that very interesting thanks steeljack. One thing that does alarm me is how many kids are having sex at such a young age. I know things are very different to when we were kids but the numbers are quite frightening IMHO. Whatever happened to kids being kids?

Margaret Pilkington 27-10-2007 18:59

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Bernie, they are exposed to all kinds of adult themes in the media and they want to appear grown up.
Little do they realise that innocence cannot be retrieved.....however, if they are going to indulge in adult pursuits then they should be protected.

Ianto.W. 27-10-2007 19:05

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steeljack 485639, bit of info I found on the topic
HPV Vaccines
seems to be quite a bit of discussion on the subject
That was very informative steejack, and I would urge yet again to the unconverted, grab anything that will keep this curse at bay with both hands and feet. Before the offer is not there, some terminalCancer patients cannot get the life extending drugs to have a few more years, because they are considered a 'lost cause' but those extra years may see a son and daughter married grandchildren born etc, refuse nothing.

lettie 28-10-2007 07:58

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Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies (Post 485236)
Thinks its brill, shame its not for older peeps as well, having just had lazer treatment for the second time ! Deffo coming back as a man next time.

It is a shame that older women can't have this but it would be like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted. The point of giving it so young is to try to ensure that it is given before exposure to HPV (virgins). This is a vaccine not a cure so it would be essentially useless to give it to a 30-40 year old woman unless she was a virgin. :)

BERNADETTE 28-10-2007 11:35

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 485651)
Bernie, they are exposed to all kinds of adult themes in the media and they want to appear grown up.
Little do they realise that innocence cannot be retrieved.....however, if they are going to indulge in adult pursuits then they should be protected.

Yes I know that but when you see just how many it is quite a shock and I totally agree they should be offered any protection that is available.

WillowTheWhisp 28-10-2007 15:15

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It's an excellent idea. Get them before they become sexually active. Unfortunately some 12/13 year olds already are. :(

jimmi5bellies 28-10-2007 21:55

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Originally Posted by AccyAlec (Post 485407)
"...for older peeps..." - :eek: Your not old hehe :p

Yea deffo a good idea. I heard this was going to happen a few weeks back and believe that people of all ages should be able to have it as well!



Awww bless ... what you after ? more spending money :D


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